[Mini 1208] Mafia in the Scarlet Monastery (Over)

[xRECKONERx]

NO.

We lynch Valern. This could be a scum fakeclaim (LOL GUYS I WAS COMMUTING). Commuter is scum fakeclaim 101.

[Parama]

He claimed hider
read more carefully
also what do you think about him clearing brian?

[xRECKONERx]

Valern has only been on the site for 5 months. Not sure a

commuter

hider fakeclaim would be good.

PROS TO LYNCHING VALERN:

could be scum fakeclaiming; if not, it clears Brian and also generally clears me (unless you think I just got lucky with who I targeted)

CONS TO LYNCHING VALERN:

we lose a town PR if Valern really is town

[xRECKONERx]

Let's play hypotheticals with assuming Valern's claim is true. If so, we have the following players under confirmedtown:
xRECKONERx
Valern
BrianMcQueso

Which leaves us a pool of 8 players to lynch from:
Starbuck
smargaret
Ellibereth
Fate
Hinduragi
Seacore
Friend
Parama

We have the following power roles already out:

Reck - neighborizing cop thingie
Valern - hider
Parama - one-shot dayvig

We can't have that many PRs left, and the three confirmedtowns would be easy nightkill targets. Here's a worst-case-scenario if Valern is telling the truth:

D2: (3:8) lynch smarg (town)
N2: (3:7) Brian is killed
D3: (3:6) lynch Fate (town)
N3: (3:5) Reck is killed
D4: (3:4) lylo with 1 conftown alive... though Valern not being dead makes it iffy if we can confirm the hider claim as town and thus true

[Fate]

SHUT THR FUCK UP.

WERE NOT LYNCHING A HIDER

WANT TO GO BACK TO OUR ONE V ONE YOU ANTITOWN PIECE OF SHIT?

[xRECKONERx]

We kinda have to lynch Valern.

If we don't, Brian & I will die anyway, thus leaving a 3:4 lylo with a WIFOMed Valern left alive.

If we do, and she's scum, we catch scum.

If we do, and she's town, then scum will have to kill me & Brian anyway.

Optimal play is lynching Valern.

[xRECKONERx]

Yeah, if we're not lynching Valern, we're lynching Fate.

I'M GONNA WHITE KNIGHT THE SHIT OUT OF AN UNPROVABLE AND EASILY SCUM-ALIGNED POWER ROLE

[Ellibereth]

HI GUYS
LET VALERN AND I HAVE MY CHAT...or SHORT EXCHANGE, OR VERY SHORT EXCHANGE
THINKTHINK
YOU SHOULD KINDA KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM ALREADY

[xRECKONERx]

wat

[Fate]

WHEN I GET HOME ILL TEACH YOU OPTIMAL PLAY

LIKE YOU LINJIN UP LYNCHES

RIGHT AFTER U CFUCKIN CALLED ME SCUM FOR IT

YOU TARD

[Ellibereth]

Valern
if you died what would you flip.

HI VALERN
REQUOTED
JUST SO YOU CAN'T SAY YOU MISSED IT

[xRECKONERx]

OKAY WAITING

[BrianMcQueso]

Fate, Reck, stop bickering. You're both town, accept it.

Valern's claim might explain Reck's result, but I don't really consider a hider to be a strong PR. Expendable, yes. A self-protect in a game of 13? Nah. Shadowstep is a bit of a stretch for that, too.

[xRECKONERx]

I do not buy that Fate is town. So I'll gladly reject your offer to accept it, but thanks.

Valern, what's your experience with WoW?

[smargaret]

I don't believe Reck and Valern are both town - it seems like too many possible ways for town to confirm peoples' alignments. My vote remains.

[Parama]

A one-shot neighborize that's kinda a cop and a cop that dies if it inspects scum? Nah, that's about equal to a single cop really <_<

[xRECKONERx]

smarg confirmed scum good to know

Valern answer my question

[Seacore]

Yeah, comparing this game to Deadmines, if both Val and Reck are telling the truth, we may have lots of weaker roles rather than 3 strong roles.

That being said, there seem to be lots of "unlikely" things happening. No NK + Reck either hitting scum with his ability or hitting the one person that it won't work on. Unless Val was the NK target as well... but why would he be? I dunno, my gut reaction is to not believe Val, or at least not believe Val enough to stay the lynch. I just get suspicious when I see a lot of unlikely things happen in one go.

In other news, my bad on Kiwi. I was so sure that I was on to a winner there! That being said, I'm not totally unhappy about kiwi not being in end game. Val's lolcase on me makes him look guiltier in my eyes, but that's probably a little OMGUS creeping in. I'll wait until Elli has done his thing, not sure quite what he's doing but I'll refrain from commenting for now.

I've got a busy weekend ahead of me but I'll have a look over D1. I do have a small idea, and that is that maybe Fate and smargaret are scum together.
Fate was big on lynching Reck and then switched to lynch kiwi (which I was cheering about at the time) but then he jumped on smargaret about her vote on Reck. That to me seems a decent distancing action "How dare you! You are totally scum for that, trying to protect your scumbuddy Kiwi (who I know won't flip scum). ... Oh kiwi was town? Well my case on smargaret goes away..."

Meanwhile, Brian raises the "Fate and Reck and both town" argument
Reck replies that he disagrees
Smargaret then posts "One of Reck and Val must be scum" In a way continuing the discussion but swapping Fate out of the spotlight.

Anyway, that's it for me.

[inHimshallibe]

Vote Count 2.2

or "I hate these Monks..."

11 players remain; 6 votes needed for a lynch.

Valern (3)

- xRECKONERx, BrianMcQueso, smargaret

Friend (1)

- Fate

Seacore (1)

- Valern

Fate (1)

- Friend

Yet to vote (5): Seacore, Hinduragi, Ellibereth, Starbuck, Parama

[smargaret]

Mod, I voted Valern in 639

[xRECKONERx]

So Seacore is scum too?

[Fate]

HURRRRDURR RECK

HURRRRDURRRR

[inHimshallibe]

Mod, I voted Valern in 639

Edited to reflect.

[xRECKONERx]

HURRRRDURR RECK

HURRRRDURRRR

Brilliant Pulitzer Prize winning shit right here.

[Fate]

I do not buy that Fate is town. So I'll gladly reject your offer to accept it, but thanks.

Valern, what's your experience with WoW?

NOMAN DON'T BE MODEST

THIS SHIT IS THE PULIZTER FUCKIN PRIZE

GOLDEN FUCKIN READS BRO