Pappums Leather Jacket wrote:Meh, we should have lynched 17 pages ago.
The silver wagon seems to be MOI, and a bunch of low-volume or low-content voters afraid of what an aggressive policy of stamping out antitown and scum-favoring behaviour might mean for them.
Meransiel wrote:I don
t really feel like it, I think I made myself clear enough. If you scumslip by accidentally misunderstanding me, well then, go town.
Junpei wrote:Rodion's post implies that he'll have a vote down by the end of the day, but he doesn't post a vote until after the day is over. Just pointing out how he twisted his compliance with ThAdmirals' request.
Rodion wrote:
@Meransiel-awaiting reply to #908.
I think a hammer right now would not be good.We've just got 3 replacements and they can contribute before the day ends. Drmyshottyizsik didn't say much and we should get some of his insights before ending the day.
I'm fully updated.Going to decide who deserves my vote after I finish my discussion with Meran (one more reason not to quickhammer).
David Xanatos wrote:He knows. He addressed that in his post.
Rodion > For the record, I've found your reasoning and logic to be fairly transparent. It may be a similar line of thinking but you've been reasonably easy to follow when you're explaining.. I can only assume Mera missed your point about your stance RE: his V/LA.. :/
Rainbowdash wrote:vollkan wrote:Wait...what?
Your reason for not having silver as a "top" town read is that he is now on the Zinger wagon...the very same wagon that you just joined.
In fact, when you say this:
All anti-town claims should be lynched on site. This includes claims of maifa, survivor, lyncher or anything else that does not contain the town win condition. We are going to lynch him, so continuing to bicker and everything else like we have been is going to first create massive clutter like already has happened, which leads to ponies apathying out of the game. It also allows scum to make more of an optimal kill as they know more about who is lynchable, who has what reads, and who is going to the a threat to them in subsequent days. So not saying my other reads. Zinger is the lynch today, that is all. The fact the day has not ended is disheartening.
it baffles me how you can treat it as a scumtell at all.
Silver made a statement early in the game which I took as a significant town tell given its relationship to the Zinger wagon and his location elsewhere, I also am choosing not to point out this tell specifically since if it was accidently dropped by scum, which it would have been given the nature of posts from silver unless he is greatly underselling his smarts, there is a good chance he can drop it again as town and make it a far more solid tell, or contradict it heavily as scum and get busted.
The tell relies heavily on silver NOT being on the Zinger wagon, which is why I brought it up as actually being a tell if I had read whatever votecount that was which I thought silver was voting him. Since silver isn't voting for Zinger, it means silver is one of my top town reads, and I will defend him fully if he ever cements that tell.
Also for everypony who asked, after finishing reading this game PeregrineV is the best non-Zinger lynch by miles.
Zlinger wrote:
He first drew my attention when I felt that he was lock-jawing on me. His rebuttals to my posts appeared to be conveniently worded to not only defeat the purpose of my posts but at the same time make me look bad. I didn't follow up on this notion because I believed I was simply reacting strongly to him because he suspected me, and thus my opinion was biased.
However, when another player came along (I believe it was TheAdmiral, but don't quote me on that) and basically accused Junpei of the same things I was seeing, it solidified it in my mind that I wasn't simply seeing things that weren't there. I agreed with this person's post and continued to examine Junpei more closely from that point on.
Since then, all of his arguments have had the pretense of being logical and sound yet he seems to come to illogical conclusions. I get the same feeling from his posts that you get from, say, a car salesman who manages to convince you (through sound logic no less) as to why you should buy this car, but you can't help having a sinking feeling that he is twisting reality just to make it look the way he want's it too.
A few times he had back-up in his arguments, which at the time seemed like they might be a scumbuddy helping him out.
He is so sure of me being scum (to the point of overconfidence, which I explained to be a potential scum-factor).
A few other things here and there that made me think he was scum but I can't really remember what made me think that (it's enough that they did).
MOI wrote:
No, that’s absurd. 4 votes when 14 are required to lynch is hardly significant pressure. In a game this size you can fall into 4 votes via RVS quick as a blink. Being tied means that at least one other person was under the same ‘level’ ( I use the term loosely) pressure so that hardly causes a rational player to panic.
Pinky and the Brain wrote:Hey Rainbowdash can you tell me who you're an alt of so I can proxy my hatred of you to them too? The last thing this game needs is fucking pony pictures.
Rodion wrote:Meransiel wrote:I don
t really feel like it, I think I made myself clear enough. If you scumslip by accidentally misunderstanding me, well then, go town
If you don't wish to clear yourself, I'll reserve the right to interpret how I see fit.
If you suggested that my vote was not on you because I'd rather use it to get Zinger lynched you are wrong. Zinger was lynched and I'm not one of the 14 people there. I'm not sure if you have been skimming or not but I unvoted right after I realized what Junpei and you were trying to do. I'm not sure if you skimmed because you didn't make yourself clear as I requested and that grants me the right to consider you did skim (find it unfair? Tough luck. Don't be a bitch next time someone questions you).
As to your question of why I didn't have my vote on you, the answer is because you went V/LA while we discussed and I decided to wait for your answers before that. Admiral thinks everyone should have a vote by the end of the day and I'll comply (but I will not pick between the 2 main wagons). Mine, for the record (because the lynch has already been decided), is on Meransiel.
VOTE: Meransiel
nintendoaddict1 wrote:PeregrineV wrote:Meransiel wrote:Back from my V/LA.
So why the fuck is Zinger still almost dead?
Half the scum are on the Zinger wagon, one or two on silver, and one elsewhere.
You know this?
vollkan wrote:It reads more like an overly-specific way of criticising the two leading wagons
Meran wrote:
It reads more like an overly-specific way of criticising the two leading wagons
Sorry if I didn't notice, but who is this addressed to? I think the silver wagon was good.
Regarding Silver, I wanted to know how he would have handled the Pine slot after a replacement, basically whether he would keep pushing for the replacement's lynch or not.
it seems quite scummy that his apparent hate of the slot just snuffed out because, shock horror, what people had been saying the entire damn time was true..
David Xanatos wrote:It's 7am and I'm approaching it from the wrong direction. Consider it a monologue of sorts. I should probably go sleep..
On that note actually, is this considered twilight, or is it still considered part of the actual day phase? (I thought sleep, then night, then wondered. I have strange thought processes..)
