Mini 1202 Smalltown Mafia (Game Over!)

[Beck]

well I went off your wiki, that was the only scum you list.

thanks for dis-proving your own statement and admitting that you CAN be bad scum.

can we lynch him now please?

[Phoebus]

I am here. I am tempted to vote Bob. I will abstain for now.

Second possibility(ies): hiplop/Pappum.

[bobsnox]

beck there's such a thing as a generalization. 1 bad scum game out of many good scum games is called the exception to the norm.

the whole point I'm trying to prove is that I'm not a moron at scum. those of you who are on my wagon have to assume I am to be lynching me for the reasons you are.

dumb dumb dumb

[charter]

Phoebus, you have anything else to say?

[VP Baltar]

bobs, can you link so some of these scum games you're talking about?


hiplop - you're not really questioning bobs about much of anything. you're that confident he's scum that you're just not going to bother trying to figure out if you're right or not?

[Beck]

beck there's such a thing as a generalization. 1 bad scum game out of many good scum games is called the exception to the norm.

the whole point I'm trying to prove is that I'm not a moron at scum. those of you who are on my wagon have to assume I am to be lynching me for the reasons you are.

dumb dumb dumb

Well I can easily same the same thing, I'm not an idiot either

1. Saying your good at being scum doesn't help you in this game

2. Your refusal to believe any other reason for a Juls NK, and the only possibility is I did it because she FOS'd me implies that I'm an idiot, which I just said I'm not.

[hiplop]

bobs, can you link so some of these scum games you're talking about?


hiplop - you're not really questioning bobs about much of anything. you're that confident he's scum that you're just not going to bother trying to figure out if you're right or not?

honestly, people have been kind of doing it for me lol. But yeah, im practically SURE hes scum, really.

[Zachrulez]

2nd vote count of day 2:

bobsnox - 2 (Hiplop, Beck)
pappums rat - 1 (charter)
Beck - 1 (bobsnox)
Hiplop - 1 (VP Baltar)

Not voting (pappums rat, Phoebus)

With 7 alive it's 4 to lynch.

Day 2 will end no later than Thursday August 11th at 11am CST.

[charter]

Can we get a prod on Pappums, please?

Him and Phoebus trying to lurkmonster their way to victory...

[Beck]

Sorry about this but I will be V/LA until Saturday or Sunday. Something came up.

in case you missed it charter

I do expect this evening or tomorrow that he makes up for his lost time.

sadly I am disappointed we only got one post out of Phoebus.

[charter]

Ah, missed that. I guess prod him tomorrow then.

[VP Baltar]

bobs, can you link so some of these scum games you're talking about?


hiplop - you're not really questioning bobs about much of anything. you're that confident he's scum that you're just not going to bother trying to figure out if you're right or not?

honestly, people have been kind of doing it for me lol. But yeah, im practically SURE hes scum, really.

What do you think are the best points made by other people about bob? in other words, what do you agree with exactly? I'm not quite certain of WHY you think he's scum I guess.

[pappums rat]

How did you go from this:

I have a town read on Beck and hiplop is a good enough choice for me, so

VOTE: hiplop

Blatant sheeping, yes I know.

to this:

Ok I'm going to suggest that there are a couple scum in Phoebus, Beck, and pappums. Juls flipped town, and I am town, so that takes care of the Psyche wagon. No other wagon was really going on at the lynch, so it's tough to look elsewhere. I will go ahead and ISO those three and look at who Juls suspected beyond Psyche.

so quickly? You are very erratic in your reads, and then saying you are going to ISO Juls to see who she suspected is kind of hilarious. It is quite obvious, if you have read the thread, that she was pushing Beck ALL DAY. And then upon your read of her ISO, you come up with this:

Ok ISOs have been read and I have a pretty clear conclusion:

Beck is scum.

Juls pushed hardest to lynch Beck. Juls is dead. Juls did not softclaim a PR or anything like that, so I'm betting that whoever offed her did so because of her suspicions. Who was her biggest suspect? Beck.

So:

UNVOTE: hiplop
VOTE: Beck

obviously I take back what I said earlier about having a town read on Beck. Juls's ISO really opened my eyes.

charter - why those three and not Beck? I'm assuming you used the Psyche-wagon for your scumlist as well.

Jul's ISO "opened your eyes", eh? As I said, anyone who has read this game would know she was on him all day, and your hop onto Beck looks very contrived to me, and your recent posts have made you sound like flailing scum. Budja was scum, and bobsnox is as well. Making a whole case against Beck because Juls suspected him is a horrible, baseless argument, I dont think people analyze NK's anymore, there is way too much WIFOM potential in a NK that it makes it pretty much worthless to take them into consideration. And his "case" against Beck isnt even that, he basically just says "Juls is dead, Juls suspected Beck, therefore Beck is scum". No real scumhunting going on here whatsoever, and no other backing reasoning for why Beck is scum. THis makes it L-1:

Vote: bobsnox

[charter]

So, we should lynch Pappums today. Here is, yet another, safe vote. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob somehow winds up being town, just because of the horribly opportunistic vote/ignoring the entire rest of the game that Pappums is doing. He made the same post I would make if I were scum in this game. It's a word for word copy.

[bobsnox]

2. Your refusal to believe any other reason for a Juls NK, and the only possibility is I did it because she FOS'd me implies that I'm an idiot, which I just said I'm not.

I didn't say it's the only possibility. I said it's the only applicable one. No one brought it up until I did, which means it was almost a perfect strategy.

pappums - I didn't read the thread lol. What is so hard to understand about this? I am a VT who replaced into a fairly lame game (not the Mod's fault) which was stalling on DAY ONE with TWO L-2 wagons. I hammered someone I genuinely had a scumread on, but I didn't bother reading the whole game prior to that because the game needed to freaking move on. I decided to do some actual work today, so I started with the best lead I could think of: who died and why? The most obvious answer is that Beck killed Juls. Juls did not hint at being a danger to scum, so someone killed her to avoid pressure from her. Of course there's WIFOM involved there, but it's simple and it makes sense. Pardon the use of Ockham's Razor here, but that's the option I still think is best (well, before I read your recent post that is). Those of you who are so against that are very likely scum IMO.

As I said, anyone who has read this game would know she was on him all day, and your hop onto Beck looks very contrived to me, and your recent posts have made you sound like flailing scum.

1 - Then why didn't anyone else bring it up? If you were well aware, then you should have brought it up as a possibility. Big time scumminess from that.
2 - flailing scum? lol I look like what I just described above. And it's really scummy that you said "look like" instead of just accusing me of being what you supposedly think I am. Talk about contrived.

Beck's not happening, and I'm about to die, so:
UNVOTE: beck
VOTE: pappums

[VP Baltar]

unvote, Vote:pappums

I can buy a pappums wagon after that opportunistic vote.

[Beck]

lol so now pappums and bob are L-1

Nice counter-wagon btw

[VP Baltar]

lol, sounds like something a scumbuddy would say lol and etc.

[hiplop]

eh I'm fine with lynching either of them, would prefer bob tho

[VP Baltar]

bobs, can you link so some of these scum games you're talking about?


hiplop - you're not really questioning bobs about much of anything. you're that confident he's scum that you're just not going to bother trying to figure out if you're right or not?

honestly, people have been kind of doing it for me lol. But yeah, im practically SURE hes scum, really.

What do you think are the best points made by other people about bob? in other words, what do you agree with exactly? I'm not quite certain of WHY you think he's scum I guess.

You can answer this even though I changed my vote.

[charter]

Beck, unvote Bob so Phoebus can't fly in and hammer him. Phoebus needs to post, Pappums needs to post. Enough with this lurking crap.

[hiplop]

What do you think are the best points made by other people about bob? in other words, what do you agree with exactly? I'm not quite certain of WHY you think he's scum I guess.

i Don't believe anyones set out a definite case or anything; Beck has just been pitting against him, and I agree with some of what he says (the meta defense) and that post i quoted in twilight yesterday/beginning of today is so fking scummy. Also the obvious WIFOM attack on beck (juls suspected you and she dead, so you're scum) etc etc

[Beck]

Beck, unvote Bob so Phoebus can't fly in and hammer him. Phoebus needs to post, Pappums needs to post. Enough with this lurking crap.

I don't think we need to un-vote, I would think they woudl be smart enough than to paint a target on their back with a hammer without discussion.

[pappums rat]

unvote, Vote:pappums

I can buy a pappums wagon after that opportunistic vote.

LOL. Nothing opportunistic about it. If anyone's vote is "opportunistic" it is Bobs' vote on Beck. What do you think of his vote on Beck? What do you think of his reasoning behind it? How about his subsequent OMGUS vote on me, and his reasoning behind it? The same questions go to charter.

So, we should lynch Pappums today. Here is, yet another, safe vote. I wouldn't be surprised if Bob somehow winds up being town, just because of the horribly opportunistic vote/ignoring the entire rest of the game that Pappums is doing. He made the same post I would make if I were scum in this game. It's a word for word copy.

Blah blah blah. I have given my opinions on everyone in the game. Bobsnox is scum, therefore I am voting bobsnox.

[charter]

Well, if the scumteam is not Phoebus and Pappums, but Phoebus is still scum, hammering here is....