Flash mafia 3 (town wins)

[Llamarble]

I will iterate again later tonight or tomorrow and make cases etc.

How about you talk about Regfan some.

[mykonian]

Votecount

Llamarble (4): Fate, Farside22, populartajo, Porochaz
Parabollocks (1): Amrun
Amrun (1): Ellibereth
Regfan (1): Llamarble

Not voting (6): DrippingGoofball, crypto, Regfan, a girl on the internet, Ythill, Parabollocks

With 13 players, it's 7 to lynch

[populartajo]

Whoever doc is should breadcrumb their protect at some point 'cause I'mma flip town and if doc dies then doublesuck.

why in hell isnt this guy lynched yet?

[populartajo]

fuck it, im going to be the guy that says that not lynching llamarble would be stupid as fck

hell i think he is less scummy than regfan, amrun, even agoti, but there was no kill yesterday, farside roleblocked llamarble, 1+1=2

and I think he is capable of faking the wifom, so

ps: i love how you are already bussing regfan and accusing me of doing it at the same time

[Ellibereth]

AGOTI - SCUM WITH FATE/TAJO
FATE - TOWN (HA)

lolwut

unvote, vote llama

[populartajo]

also MOD, PLZ MASS PROD

[Amrun]

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

[populartajo]

my bad

wait no

what is that something?

You questioned my roleblocking claim and thought it wasn't a real role. Then when GW claimed VT you were all over trying to save him which sat even more odd with me. I know I have been in games where someone that claims VT gets lynched all the time. I also know scum claim VT. I have no clue where you got the VT claim is a death sentence view and it rubbed me wrong.

ok

i tought it wasnt a real role cuz I looked through the roles in flashy's site and didnt find a roleblocker on town side, so I wrongly assumed you were fakeclaiming. I corrected myself in following posts.

regarding vanilla townie claims, Ive realized that most of the time vanilla claims at L-1 are true since this site lynches vanilla claims which makes scum more likely to fakeclaim a power role to save own ass.

Im searching other games but from the top of my head read this so you can understand where Im coming from:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p2842156

[Fate]

Unvote

Vote: Amrun

Actually, were doing this.

HAHEHAHAHHAHAHA

[Llamarble]

Elli, I was ISOing in order and when I read AGOTI I had residual scumreads on Fate/Tajo from D1

[farside22]

my bad

wait no

what is that something?

You questioned my roleblocking claim and thought it wasn't a real role. Then when GW claimed VT you were all over trying to save him which sat even more odd with me. I know I have been in games where someone that claims VT gets lynched all the time. I also know scum claim VT. I have no clue where you got the VT claim is a death sentence view and it rubbed me wrong.

ok

i tought it wasnt a real role cuz I looked through the roles in flashy's site and didnt find a roleblocker on town side, so I wrongly assumed you were fakeclaiming. I corrected myself in following posts.

regarding vanilla townie claims, Ive realized that most of the time vanilla claims at L-1 are true since this site lynches vanilla claims which makes scum more likely to fakeclaim a power role to save own ass.

Im searching other games but from the top of my head read this so you can understand where Im coming from:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p2842156

Just a point on this and my view.

Scum fake claims role and gets possible CC that is suicide. Also I believe we were in a game were a player claimed VT and did not get lynched. No all VT's get lynched. Never mind that I claim VT as scum in a few games recently in hopes that people would not lynch me based on the claim and they did not.
Just saying.

[farside22]

I DO NOT WANT TO SEE A HAMMER TILL
AMRUN TELLS ME WHY HE SWITCH TO LLAMA SO QUICKLY AND
LLAMA GIVES ME A REASON TO HIS READS.

UNVOTE:

Both of the above need to happen.

[Fate]

I will iterate again later tonight or tomorrow and make cases etc.

How about you talk about Regfan some.

Did you just fuckin quote yourself?

[Fate]

I DO NOT WANT TO SEE A HAMMER TILL
AMRUN TELLS ME WHY HE SWITCH TO LLAMA SO QUICKLY AND
LLAMA GIVES ME A REASON TO HIS READS.

UNVOTE:

Both of the above need to happen.

Amrun is NOT going to tell you that she is scum (which is why she switched)

So lol u.

MOAR AMRUN VOTES KTHX

[Fate]

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

[Fate]

^That's a fuckin awesome case Fate.

/sheep

VOTE: AMRUN

[farside22]

I DO NOT WANT TO SEE A HAMMER TILL
AMRUN TELLS ME WHY HE SWITCH TO LLAMA SO QUICKLY AND
LLAMA GIVES ME A REASON TO HIS READS.

UNVOTE:

Both of the above need to happen.

Amrun is NOT going to tell you that she is scum (which is why she switched)

So lol u.

MOAR AMRUN VOTES KTHX

Stop with the spam. You were wrong day one. Don't expect me to really believe or trust in anything you say or spam today.

@Amrun; Who is on your scum list and why. What did Llama say that had you switch so quickly.
@llama: Still expecting you to finish your thoughts.

[Fate]

I was wrong once so OH I MUST NEVER BE RIGHT AGAIN TROLOLOL?

GW's lynch was necessary.

Rest of game has been fuckin rboken now

[farside22]

I was wrong once so OH I MUST NEVER BE RIGHT AGAIN TROLOLOL?

GW's lynch was necessary.

Rest of game has been fuckin rboken now

I'm sorry did I dream about the fucking wagon you pushed on me day 1?

cough*asshole*cough.

[Regfan]

Town Reads (Strongest to weakest):

Farside, PopularTajo, Crypto, Fate, Ythill, Parabollocks.

Null reads:

DGB, Elibereth, AGOTI.

Scum Reads (Strongest to weakest):

Llarmable, Amrum, Porochaz.

Spoiler: Reasoning behind my reads:

1. Farside, the way she claimed, her attitude and her actual role claim all read as genuine town, the lack of death last night was highly likely a result of her role blocking correctly and her actions and insistence on waiting for more information today all read as town-tells.

2. Populartajo, despite his idiotic and illogical ramblings earlier his reaction to Farsides role-claim and belief that the role didn't exist in the potential game
roles reads as a geninue town-slip. I don't see him attempting to fake disbelieving a role-claim especially in the manner in which he reacted.

3. Crypto, his unsureness that the game started and lack of posting in the thread essentially assures me that he's town however I really do want to see more content from him.

4. Fate, even though he pushed on both GW and Farside I'm relatively sure he's town, his attitude and insistence that Amrum is scum today and his interactions with Llarmable all read as strong town-tells.

5. Ythill, I'm actually finding it slightly difficult to explain this read, his attitude and actions throughout day one read as genuine attempts at scumhunting.

6. Parabollocks, despite his low activity and the fact he's site flaked I still have a weak town-read on him, his natural progression in suspicion on Farside throughout yesterday is understandable and the fact he never considered hoping on the Ghost lynch reads as a town-tell, from what I know of him he's not one to play coy, if there's a mslynch he'd take it despite how it may look for his image.

7. DGB, I'm honestly unsure what to make of her lack of activity and effort in this game, I know that it's near the complete opposite of how she placed early game in Vi's mafia game and White Flag mafia but at the same time it's also the opposite of a previous town game of hers that I read.

8. Elibereth, gone back and forth on her multiple times today, not exactly what to make of her actions because a great deal of my previous town-read on her disappeared with the Ghost town flip. I do want her to go into her reasoning for her Amrum scum-read in some more depth without it revolving around Tripods lack of activity.

9. AGOTI, unlike Parabollocks her lack of activity and content makes it infuriatingly difficult to attain a real read on her, if anything I would lean slightly town on her due to her reaction to the hammer but that's extremely weak.

10. Llarmable, his actions this game heavily conflict with any of his previous town-meta that I have (Noticeably Buffy Mafia) and I'm absolutely certain that Farside did role block him which is highly likely the cause of the no-kill. His attempt to get doc to 'crumb' their target screams mafia ploy, mafia know who was targeted therefore they know exactly what to look for when hunting for doctor tells there it's more disastrous than beneficial for doctor to crumb their save. Furthermore his attitude when attempting to state his reads screams as an attempt to create minimal usable interactions from his day two play rather than actually scum hunting.

12. Amrum, her useless questions upon entry, weak reads with inclusion of stating that she doesn't see how I could be scum while stating that she sees some things and voting of her "town-read" on Llarmable without explaining it outside of WIFOM reads as awful though I'm not convinced she's mafia and await Eliberethes reasoning behind her read on Amrum.

13. Porochaz, although I had a strongish town-read on him earlier it's disappeared now. During day one he let his suspicions and thoughts of Eli be known however instantly upon entering day two he states that Llarmable would be a good lynch and this is before it was announced that he was role-blocked, it reads as an attempt to attain some form of town-cred.

Vote: Llarmable

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[Llamarble]

So FIRST PASS convinced me scum are playing pretty well.
SECOND PASS:
AGOTI:

Regfan, Ellibereth, P-Bollocks, crypto, and iffily DGB - a list of people who should be lynched before Ghost. Regfan for sitting on coattails, the middle 3 because they are of very little use, the more central you go the more useless they get and DGB for playing totally against her meta.

dun get what reggie is doin in this list. he's alrite.

Is a mild towntell.
Scum don't often YO I HAZ MINOR ISSUE WITH YOUR SCUMLIST, but if she is scum it's likely one of Poro/Regfan is too.
'I wanna hammer Farside lol' is also a somewhat town thing to say.
I have said "I'm tempted to QH here" as town; as scum I've either been afraid to mention it or just done it for the ballspoints.
Otherwise she seems to approve of the D1 wagons without getting super involved, but the source of the approval seems to exist.
I can follow her thought process and it makes sense, her motives make sense, and a couple individual towntells = TOWNREAD.

AMRUN:
Predecessor UT did :JACKSHIT:
No comments on major lynch wagons D1, and although semi v/la GW ISO wasn't a long read at all.

Still v/la, haven't read. Will be all read up by tomorrow, so should I still be alive, I will share my reads tomorrow.

Meh I don't think town Amrun bothers with "if I'm still alive" considering the likelihood of scum NKing her was like zero.
Rest of her posting is making me lean scum mildly. Her case on Parabollocks sounds like cases I make as scum.
So I'm getting a scumread here. But I'm getting tired so I'll pick up with Amrun tomorrow.

[Llamarble]

Oh and that thing where I quoted myself was in response to Farside.
She asked me to explain my reads when I had already promised to make cases later, so I repeated myself and asked her to interact with my top scumread in the meantime.
Nagging is a towntell though even if it annoys me, heh.

[Llamarble]

BTW Fate I read you right in Mostly Mountainous, 1175, AMG, Maf with hydras.
In Dilemma mafia I happily townallianced you and called you town but that read frayed because we kept lynching townies and I thought I was wrong about something. I didn't actually attempt to lynch you though.
Lovers Multiball I thought you + Reck scumteam would make sense by lylo but wasn't sure and didn't really do anything about it other than ask townies to unvote other townies which didn't happen.
So yeah, track record not at all horrible.

[Llamarble]

Also haha @ Regfan expecting me to play like in Buffy mafia.
I was FREAKING PRESCIENT in that game and called that Giles would be in the setup + a demon cop, that Jason was scum preparing to fakeclaim Angel in his early posting, and that we would quicklynch all the scum.
And days 2 and 3 Reg's hydra of pure awesome with Slaxx gave us copguilties.

THAT GAME WAS AWESOME BTW.

[mykonian]

The magnificent Springlullaby helped me out and offered to replace Ythill. Thank you very much SL!

Parabollocks has been prodded.