Open 320- Tit for Tat: Game Over!

[MagnaofIllusion]

You say voting bloc has two townies. It's a three person voting bloc, actually. And how do you know they're townies? SCUMSLIP (sorry MoI)?

Why are you apologizing again? Because you can't help playing anti-Town regardless of alignment?

There's a pretty clear answer to this question but I'll let Luxury actually answer and see if my immediate thought is correct.

[SleepyKrew]

I'm apologizing because I know you don't like me using buzzwords.

[Luxury]

Prepost note: Looking back on my last few post I'm seeing a lot of typos/sentences not making sense, example:

It's hypocritical because you've asked for explanation on a lot of things,

yet until

you

recently

have explained next to nothing.

If this happens and you can't tell what I mean, please point it out and I'll clarify. I do a lot of editing to make my thoughts more clear but sometimes it ends up making it worse.
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How the hell was I uncommitted on Sera? I said I'm willing to lynch him, isn't that commitment? My most recent post about him is the first time I fencesat, and this happened AFTER your case post (expect definitive stance on Sera in a bit).

The fact that it was after my first post changes the fact that you're fencesitting how?

Oh, and you do realize I quoted that post as an example of how you were fencesitting, right? Which you admitted to? And I only brought up the fencesitting part in my last post? And you have yet to make a definite stance on Seraphim, which means no, you have not made a commitment. You will not make a commitment until you make your stance, which I'm waiting for hopefully after Sera posts a little bit more. "I'm willing to wagon him but I'm not sure on his alignment" is not a stance.

You say voting bloc has two townies. It's a three person voting bloc, actually. And how do you know they're townies? SCUMSLIP (sorry MoI)?

1. Didn't see the third person, looked just now and saw it was Magua. Just remembered LLD+Magna being in it
2. Hypothetical scenario is hypothetical, I highly doubt you'd be stupid enough to join your entire scumteam in a voting block, my guess is at least 2/3 of the people in the block are town if you're scum, though of course at least one has to be.
3. LLD+Magna are town reads, as stated in my first post on Shift.

[SleepyKrew]

Kay, Seraphim is now officially null and I'd be against his lynch at this point.

"I'm willing to wagon him but I'm not sure on his alignment" is not a stance.

He. Was. A. Scumread when I said I'd be willing to wagon him. And how can you be sure of anyone's alignment before a flip? Do you somehow magically

know

I'm scum? Nice misrep

I'm guessing point 1 is a typo... So I'll let you fix that before addressing it...

You dropped the hypocrisy argument, then?

[Luxury]

Kay, Seraphim is now officially null and I'd be against his lynch at this point.

There, that wasn't so hard was it? It's funny to note though this is the only Seraphim stance option you can choose without looking hella scummy.

He. Was. A. Scumread when I said I'd be willing to wagon him.

The thing is you make it clear he's a slight scumread but you weren't sure, and you're willing to wagon him, repeatedly. It feels like you're just waiting for a chance, and kept mentioning it in the hopes someone would take it.

I'm guessing point 1 is a typo... So I'll let you fix that before addressing it...

If by this, you mean:

1. Didn't see the third person, looked just now and saw it was Magua. Just remembered LLD+Magna being in it

Then no, this was not a typo unless I was wrong and the third person isn't Magua. I do see now how LLD mixed them up in that previous game though, I mixed them up in one of my posts that I can't remember at the moment. My point about you fencesitting on Sera, however, was definitely not a typo.

You dropped the hypocrisy argument, then?

No point in arguing a point that's already been concluded, perhaps hypocrisy was the wrong word as "ironic" would be a better fit. My point was already made.

And how can you be sure of anyone's alignment before a flip? Do you somehow magically

know

I'm scum? Nice misrep

Answering this with anything else would just be a huge waste of time, this is the last time I'm bothering arguing out this line of posting with Sleepy.

[malpascp]

@SK: cut that off. Noone is going to follow you.

Pff, I don't know what the hell this game needs.

[Seraphim]

People to stop replacing out would be nice. Also, more people voting LLD would be a fantastic idea.

[Magua]

verydark is town. Seraphim is scum. Luxury is meh, but him replacing SigmaExe isn't doing any favors as far as I'm concerned.

People to stop replacing out would be nice.

Since you've returned from V/LA, there's been one replacement out (Sigma for Luxury). This reads as scum who are annoyed that a lurking possible mislynch has gotten replaced by someone posting. Seraphim-scum means Luxury-town.

[Seraphim]

I mean in general, fool.

This game has had a ridiculous number of replacements, not even since I've returned to V/LA. Hell, I'm a replacement. It fucks stuff up.

[Gammagooey]

Votecount #18

verydark(3) Lady Lambdadelta, SleepyKrew, MagnaofIllusion
Lady Lambdadelta (2) malpascp, Seraphim
SleepyKrew(2) verydark, Luxury
Seraphim(1) Magua
malpascp(1) StefanB

Luxury(0)
Magua(0)
StefanB(0)
MagnaofIllusion(0)

Not Voting: Nobody

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Day 2 Deadline is: Wednesday, August 3rd 6:00pm EST

[Luxury]

verydark is town. Seraphim is scum. Luxury is meh, but him replacing SigmaExe isn't doing any favors as far as I'm concerned.

People to stop replacing out would be nice.

Since you've returned from V/LA, there's been one replacement out (Sigma for Luxury). This reads as scum who are annoyed that a lurking possible mislynch has gotten replaced by someone posting. Seraphim-scum means Luxury-town.

This is an example of good posting.

More on verydark/Seraphim coming very, very soon.

Including:
-Likelihood of Seraphim/SK team (Mid to high, fencesitting on Sera could be taken as reluctance to bus but ready to if necessary)
-Likelihood of verydark/SK team (Low low low)
-Likelihood of verydark/Seraphim team with SK town (Low)

[SleepyKrew]

@Luxury
It would've looked scummy any other way? wut?

How many times must I repeat this? He was a SOLID scumread when I was offering to wagon him. Only recently have I fencesat, and now I've decided that I'd be against his lynch at this point.

Sorry, I read that wrong, you are correct in that you are correct.

Why are you halting discussion? Are you hoping I remain ignorant so you can join all my games and get an easy lynch?

@malp
Stop what?
Also, some content from you would be nice.

@Magua
When did verydark become town? WHY?

[Gammagooey]

Prodding verydark and LLD.

[verydark]

Ugh, prod received.

I was out of town all weekend, forgot to post a VLA.

I know the last thing you guys want is another replacement.

Expect a long post from me by days end, I need to catch up. It looks like there's even more replacements.

[Magua]

@Magua
When did verydark become town? WHY?

When he received a town role PM.

Because he received a town role PM.

<_<
>_>

In all seriousness, I've been calling him town since my very first post here in the game. I've been called out on it by Lady Lambdadelta and MagnaofIllusion so far. Where have *you* been?

[SleepyKrew]

I was too busy watching you focus on Seraphim

>.>
<.<

So seriously. Why is he town? Because ignoring questions and misrepping people isn't very towny.

[StefanB]

Mal: The game needs for example more from you.
What do you think about what happened in the last two weeks (zero coment from you)
Is your vote on Lady Lambdadelta still somethink you think is right? Your reasons for voting her, were that you thought she was in a scumteam with your townread Sleepykrew.
And you don't know what that game needs is your only comment?

Why has that not more votes?

[malpascp]

I keep making ISOs and rereading some pages and I don't get anything usefull. Maybe my scumhunting skills are not in best shape. I'll try again at night.

I know that in almost every game there is someone in the scum team that is generally accepted as "one of most pro-town players". That's why i make possible connetions even with people I currently see as town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Picking up a prod, I'll read again in a little bitZ

[Magua]

I was too busy watching you focus on Seraphim

>.>
<.<

So seriously. Why is he town? Because ignoring questions and misrepping people isn't very towny.

Read my posts. There aren't that many and they aren't walls. Then come back and tell me the parts you disagree with.

I'm all about "summarize your wall o' doom", but you keep asking things ("Why do people keep voting me?") well after they've been answered. Show me you're reading the game and I'll put more effort into my responses to you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I keep making ISOs and rereading some pages and I don't get anything usefull. Maybe my scumhunting skills are not in best shape. I'll try again at night.

I know that in almost every game there is someone in the scum team that is generally accepted as "one of most pro-town players". That's why i make possible connetions even with people I currently see as town.

What the fuck is this?

[SleepyKrew]

Oh, it's just tone bullshit about how he seems sincere and like he cares. Yeah, I'm going to ignore that.

[StefanB]

Mals last post:
I would translate it, as the reason he is not posting and the reason for his vote.
I think it's an easy excuse like mafia might use it.

Sleepy: So you give him a free right, why if he is one of your suspects? Or does that bullshit really makes you think he is town?

[SleepyKrew]

Is that asking me why I suspect malp?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Expect a long post from me by days end, I need to catch up. It looks like there's even more replacements.

Magua if this promise isn’t made good on I’m going to make a stern face at you and tell you to get you vote on verydark for Voting Block unity purposes.

You’ve been warned.

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Kay, Seraphim is now officially null and I'd be against his lynch at this point.

So you are saying this not because of actual Seraphim posts but because Luxury is pressing you on the issue of your read? Scumtastic.

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I keep making ISOs and rereading some pages and I don't get anything usefull. Maybe my scumhunting skills are not in best shape. I'll try again at night.

I know that in almost every game there is someone in the scum team that is generally accepted as "one of most pro-town players". That's why i make possible connetions even with people I currently see as town.

I now have an official second suspect if I can’t convince the rest of you to get on verydark.

You promised content before I went on V/LA Friday. You have failed to deliver. And then we get this.

This post says two things –

1. I can’t scum-hunt.
2. I think my best bet is to fling mud in a wide arc at all the players who generally are considered Town.

Neither one of these comes from a player with a Town perspective.

@LLD and Magua

– Will you join me on a Malp wagon if we can't come together on verydark / Seraphim? Our voting block isn’t being very blocklike


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People to stop replacing out would be nice. Also, more people voting LLD would be a fantastic idea.

You aren’t going to get this wagon going. If you want to be productive you should start pursing an alternate suspect today.