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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:06 am

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Kinda.

It's complicated.

And I will say that some other people probably know what I'm talking about.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:16 am

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Roles from last game

The town leader did the same thing there. I don't buy his I have a new paper role.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:16 am

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Goddamit I meant power role. SK disease is contagious.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:17 am

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Why is everyone calling it a paper role after two typos ?.?

vezok, modmeta is baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:22 am

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It doesn't do anything until certain conditions are met, as I stated.

It is also transferrable.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:23 am

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Hey vezok, when are you doing the kill?
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:31 am

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Urg, whatever. I'm cool with a kill. There's nothing else I can say today to change MoI's read on me.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:06 am

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SleepyKrew wrote:Ice... you're not going to push the point of me calling your case shit? Cool.


No. Tell me why you think my case is shit and I'm going to show why it's not. I'm not going to have a "Your case is shit" - "No it's not" - "Yes it is" - "No it's not" - ... "argument" ad nauseam.

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Anyway, I believe CC's claim of doublevoter; nobody is going to fakeclaim a power role which can be easily (dis)proven. I don't believe that automatically makes him town, and I don't like his "something good is going to happen if something else happens" claim, especially as he believes he's going to get killed anyway.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:12 am

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Why didn't you ask me to explain it earlier? Why did I have to call you out?

We have a flimsy case on vezok right from the beginning (ISO #2 and following)

Case wasn't flimsy. He did something anti-town, then contradicted himself.
a sudden switchover to Quil (ISO #14)

I can't have multiple suspects?
implosion suddenly changing from not relevant to top scumread (ISO #50, #64)

Top scumread BESIDES Quil. Reads change. I gave my reason.
Quil becomes acceptable candidate for day executioner (ISO #62) although he still thinks Quil is scum (ISO #63)

So?
Codfish becomes scum after it's very likely he's going to get killed (ISO #75)

Already explained.
and an unspecified power role claim out of the blue (ISO #80, #81)

Wasn't out of the blue...
The only reason he's not my top scumread is that I refuse to believe an experienced player like him can be that stupid.

Nice little fence-sit.

You did not point out why a single one of these was scummy. All you did was restate everything I've done this game.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:15 am

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I want to believe CC's claim as it would be stupid to claim a doublevote ability for day votes that would be easily confirmed. However, the additional power role that can be met under certain circumstances seems a bit sketchy. Also, the town leader in the last game doesn't appear to have multiple PRs and CC's last post was a bit defeatist. If I had to bet i would say CC is what he says he is but the rest of his posts sure put enough doubt on his claim.


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Are you claiming another paper role ?.?

And we have discussed. We have chosen MoI.

Has everyone said they are voting for MoI yet?


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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:16 am

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I believe the consensus is MoI, yes.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:17 am

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Just ISOd you. Great content.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:25 am

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Actually, here's the full details of the "extra" thing I was talking about.

I have an "item" in my possession. I'm allowed to give it to someone if I want each night. If someone gets all the items, something will happen. I don't know what that something is, but I think it will be good.

I would love for everyone to give me theirs, but seeing as I will possibly die tonight, I'm not sure if that's such a good idea.
Maybe all who have these items should be claiming and we should plan someone to pass on these items to, and see what happens.

Also, I made a fairly heavy breadcrumb on this after I came back from V/LA, which no-one seemed to pick up on, which worries me a little.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:29 am

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Are townies the only people with this paper? What if scum get/have it?
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:29 am

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NO STUPID IPOD I SAY POWER NOT PAPER
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:33 am

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The item is actually a piece of paper (an important US document), so technically you're right.

SK wrote:What if scum get/have it?

This is also worries me, and is another reason I don't want to give it away. If scum have it, I can't see them giving it up.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:35 am

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And I have no idea whether it's town only.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:37 am

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I realize MoI is probably the frontrunner for getting our votes tonight but I do not see where everyone has made their choice obvious. And as I assume that is the only thing keeping veezok from doing his thing shouldn't we be explicitly stating who our night vote is going to? As I mentioned last night...mine will go to MoI.

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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:39 am

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havingfitz wrote:
As I mentioned last night...mine will go to MoI.

!!! SCUMSLIP?!?!?!

Okay CC, thanks, great. I know that it's a piece of paper, that's why I've been "typoing" so much this game. Thanks for ruining it. Everyone give me their papers tonight <.<
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:47 am

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=P SK, you probably would have had to claim sometime soon anyway.
I'll be voting for SK. I've had a townread on him all game and the paper thing only solidifies this.

I feel very reluctant to give my paper away. If MoI will not be the night executioner, I'd rather the papers were given to me, as you only claimed after I outed you. While I still think you're town, I'm not sure if I should trust you with the paper.

I don't think that made any sense, but anyway
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:50 am

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Actually, I think I just want them because I'm a selfish bastard and I don't like to share my stuff.
Input from others on this and who we should ive our papers to would be great.
If there are more papers out there, now is the time to claim.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:51 am

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But scum might have papers too... And you best be voting for MoI, otherwise we be whoopin your ass.

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You are correct. It was "I trust SK I'm going to die i'm going to live I don't trust SK". :P

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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:55 am

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We have a flimsy case on vezok right from the beginning (ISO #2 and following)

Case wasn't flimsy. He did something anti-town, then contradicted himself.


Yes, it was flimsy. It was a joke by vezok and you tried to construct a case out of it.

a sudden switchover to Quil (ISO #14)

I can't have multiple suspects?


You made up a case on Quil which was based on vezok suddenly becoming town.

implosion suddenly changing from not relevant to top scumread (ISO #50, #64)

Top scumread BESIDES Quil. Reads change. I gave my reason.


Double lie. You designated him as your ONLY top scumread, and you didn't give any reason.

Quil becomes acceptable candidate for day executioner (ISO #62) although he still thinks Quil is scum (ISO #63)

So?


Why do you want to give kill power to somebody who you think is scum?

and an unspecified power role claim out of the blue (ISO #80, #81)

Wasn't out of the blue...


Yes, it was. You were not asked to claim, but rather claimed when your survival was vaguely threatened, and you didn't claim your actual role but just "a power role". This combines the disadvantages of claiming (scum knows who you are) and not claiming (town doesn't know what you are and you can't be confirmed).


The only reason he's not my top scumread is that I refuse to believe an experienced player like him can be that stupid.

Nice little fence-sit.


That's not fence-sitting. Fence-sitting is when you keep changing your reads and votes (or top scumreads, in this game) with little or no justification so they fit your personal agenda, which is what you've been doing all game.

You did not point out why a single one of these was scummy. All you did was restate everything I've done this game.


Yeah, because making up cases, suddenly changing reads with no justification, giving kill power to whom you think is scum and unspecified power role claiming out of the blue is totally not scummy.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:00 am

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Joke by vezok? Nope, try again.

Where did vezok magically become town in my Quil case?

Someone asked me top scumread BESIDES Quil. So I answered implosion. And I mentioned why he was scum before that.

Because he's offering to kill another scumread.

MoI was going to kill me tonight. Isn't that the same as being L-1 with a looming hammer?

No thoughts on paper? Why ignore the beginning of 333?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:01 am

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Fine, no claim.
I'm considering using my paper as a bargaining chip, but I don't think man people would like that.

I'm not voting for MoI. Any PR is valuable, me especially late-game if we haven't caught scum. I don't want to die. So, my possibilities are:
1. Not vote for MoI and get killed the next day, or still the night.
2. Vote for MoI and die.
Nice. Either way, I'm dead... Unless MoI has changed his mind. MOI WHERE DID YOU GO

And yes, the possibility that scum have papers ruins my plan.

Gotta go now, see you in 12 hours, or a few days, or weeks, depending on who kills when.
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