Newbie 08 - Game Over

[Pie_is_good]

hey, what about my initiation, I'm new here too

vote: pieisgood

unvote: pieisgood

There, much better

I'll just

vote: banana bob

for not being active yet.

[Pie_is_good]

darn it, why does everybody accuse me when I do that? I do that almost every mafia game I play and it's somehow suspicious? Can someone explain that to me?

meme, maybe you're just bandwagoning with me against me.

[Pie_is_good]

Also: I do cast inactivity votes a little early because I can always un-vote them. Since Banana Bob has posted,

unvote: Banana Bob

I'll just

vote: blackhawk

until he posts, then I'll unvote him and revote another inactive person...

because an inactive citizen is only diverting our suspicion, and an inactive mafia is... well, dead.

[Pie_is_good]

there y'are, blackhawk

unvote: blackhawk

*points randomly to the screen somewhere since everybody's posted*

vote: untrod tripod

[Pie_is_good]

yes, and you want to lynch the active citizen first who might discover you, is that it? I make a habit of being active; I HATE games with an inactive member; they ruin all the fun.

Also, a very convenient bandwagon op.

unvote: untrod tripod

vote: roxxy_velveteen

[Pie_is_good]

um... why? I want the mafia lynched as much as you do (unless you're scum...) so why not be active? The best scum strategy that I've seen work is to make a few accusations, post a few times, then sit back and watch the townies kill each other. THe more active you are, the more that strategy doesn't work. My vote remains until you explain what you were thinking.

also, a defense: Let's assume

[Pie_is_good]

um... why? I want the mafia lynched as much as you do (unless you're scum...) so why not be active? The best scum strategy that I've seen work is to make a few accusations, post a few times, then sit back and watch the townies kill each other. THe more active you are, the more that strategy doesn't work. My vote remains until you explain what you were thinking.

also, a defense: Let's assume

[Pie_is_good]

sorry, people: my first double post. Ignore the last part. I thought I could show that I wasn't scum, but I realized that I was wrong.

[Pie_is_good]

what? I'm saying that I thought I could prove it to you all that I wasn't scum, but I realized it didn't really work. I'm not saying that I am scum; you can decide that for yourself. just my "proof" so that maybe more people could be convinced didn't work.

[Pie_is_good]

because that strategy really would work very well. If I had only posted a few times to accuse after somebody else made themselves suspicious, I would be sitting here with 0 votes and nobody suspecting me. But that's not my best interest; if I do that then citizens will be lynched and lynched and lynched until it's just me and the scum left. Our only hope of winning is to go out on a limb to hopefully draw out the real mafia. So that's what I'm doing; and I'm telling you that so that maybe others can come with me.

BTW, R_V and MeMe, exactly what evidence do you have against me? The fact that I voted against myself and I cast an inactivity vote which I have since unvoted early on? I do not consider that nearly enough evidence to base a bandwagon on. If I'm wrong, please explain.

-pieisgood

[Pie_is_good]

I seem to be lynched. I will make my one final attempt to not give the scum a leg up on us.

The activity thing- I wanted to give you as much proof as I can that I am a citizen. Should I say "I'm active because I like the game," that would provide no information whatsoever as to what I am. The argument I made still justifies me posting alot (BTW, I'm subscribed to the thread if that matters any) and also helps force the scum out of hiding.

Banana Bob- This is NEWBIE mafia. This is also my first ever online game. As such, I have judged my whole "inactivity strategy" off experiences in real life. In real life, you can sometimes read people when they're lying, so the way the mafia wins is not to say much at all. The way to make everybody talk is to have everybody coming out and saying something. I understand why that's not true in this game, but that's why I said what I said. I've also seen what runaway bandwagons can do. An early vote by MeMe wasn't too friendly. A second by roxxy is definetly the makings of a bandwagon.

Blackhawk: how I worded some of my posts? Does scum word posts differently? If so, I wasn't aware of that.

My reasons for my vote:

The 2 people who came out of the starting block with a bandwagon were MeMe and Roxxy. Of the two, Roxxy seems slightly more suspicious because of the whole "I'm too active" accusation, saying that it's because I have something to hide while never actually giving a through explination of why this makes me seem scummy.

questions, comments, feedback, whatever is welcome. Just don't make the lynch until you're sure.

-pieisgood

[Pie_is_good]

The reason I posted that was because I honestly thought I had something. But it turns out that it didn't quite work. You don't have any solid evidence that you aren't scum. Does that mean that you are scum? Not neccisarily. Does me not having a proof that works mean that I'm scum? Not neccisarily. That's not really evidence against me.

What I thought worked:

If I was in the mafia, I would be with one other person. It can't be MeMe, Roxxy, Blackhawk, or Banana Bob because they are voting for me. It can't be Untrod Tripod because I voted for him. It can't be Max22 because he was once voting for me. It's not Untrod Tripod because I was once voting for him. That makes everybody, so unless I'm scum with myself (impossible, as far as I'm concerned) I'm not scum.

That's the evidence I thought I had back then, but I realised that I didn't have proof on everybody. Now I do.

-pieisgood

[Pie_is_good]

MeMe, just saw your post.

It's not suspicious because I have since unvoted blackhawk. I killed the bandwagon personally.

[Pie_is_good]

decent. huh. I've never heard taht strategy before. Like I said, I am a mafia newbie and I am basing all evidence, accusations, etc. off of what I know in real life. In real life, that strategy doesn't work because a mafia-buddy is needed to survive; especially early on. Lynching them makes you lose a friend and people can still see through your lies and lynch you later on anyways, and you lose right then and right there. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my experience. Mafia is a game of strategy. Anyways, if that strategy is common knowledge, it doesn't work then, right? It only works on environments where it's a surprise, and since everybody knows it now, it's no longer effective

-pieisgood

[Pie_is_good]

well, if that wasn't the funnest mafiascum game I've ever played in...

oh wait, it is, that's the only mafiascum game I've played in

I'd say I need to work on that, neh?