Open 322: C9++ [Game Over - Scum Win]

[Darkcoffeejazz]

Special, for all our sakes, just catch up with the thread already.

[Honest Abel]

Seems pretty belieavable

Believable as it is, he could have been expressing his confusion/shock as either of these:

• Whoops, I'm a townie who mistakenly believed something false about the game
  
• Whoops, I'm scum who slipped my knowledge that there are three scum

But if you didn't see it that way, you didn't see it that way. I'm going to have to read that whole area again to see how I feel about your defense.

[Nobody Special]

Okay, because I'm rather short on time right now, I'll just ask again.

KCDA: Am I scum for the same reason that DCJ is town?

[Nobody Special]

Ack, that was in response to KC at the bottom of previous page.

[Kcdaspot]

DCJ has a subtle tell that makes hmm a prime town though it's weakening with his useless posting...

for you? 553.

that;s why your scum.

abel gets off my top scum read list.

VOTE: NS

[Nobody Special]

Ack, that was in response to KC at the bottom of previous page.

Please, please explain to me how this is a scumtell.

I'll grab the popcorn.

[Honest Abel]

Kcd, it would be a lot easier to trust your reads and follow your bandwagons if you gave any reasons at all for thinking what you think. Been saying this all along. You are hopeless.

[GMan]

Vote Count 2.4

• Honest Abel (2): Amor, Darkcoffeejazz
  
• Nobody Special (2): don_johnson, Kcdaspot
  
• Darkcoffeejazz (1): Nobody Special
  
• SGRaaize (1): Honest Abel

Not voting: SGRaaize, bv310, projectmatt

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

• izakthegoomba replaces bv310. He failed to respond to his prod
  
  
• Day 2 Deadline is Thursday August 25th, 1:30PM EST.

[Honest Abel]

Thank god. Welcome, izak. Take your time catching up, since we're already waiting for NS to catch up. Might be interesting to see who can catch up faster.

[Nobody Special]

izak's MUCH quicker than I am.

[Kcdaspot]

thats still not reading.

[SGRaaize]

Seems pretty belieavable

Believable as it is, he could have been expressing his confusion/shock as either of these:

• Whoops, I'm a townie who mistakenly believed something false about the game
  
• Whoops, I'm scum who slipped my knowledge that there are three scum

But if you didn't see it that way, you didn't see it that way. I'm going to have to read that whole area again to see how I feel about your defense.

Huh, what are you implying? You're implying kcd admitted he's scum but then changed his mind or something?

[Honest Abel]

UNVOTE: SGRaaize; after rereading that episode, you do not appear scummy due to my main "catch" on you. Mostly because of how your opinion could have been affected by Muffin's contribution, which I missed before and was good even if Kcd couldn't save himself. Don't think the support points on you add up to anything on their own. Very laconic, but you have me leaning quiet town. More discussion from you would be helpful.

NS, not even reading back on you in earnest yet, you've been acting extremely aloof and scummy in recent times and in my memory, while remaining ever-present. I'm waiting for you to suddenly show up with a big wall of awesomeness to prove everyone wrong about you, but you are either playing at something or just can't muster up the effort. I really don't get it. And the way you jumped on Kcd for the mishap on pgs. 13/14 (the thing I was just talking about with SGR) seemed like too easy of a thing to really jump on someone about.

I'm more than ready to hear more from you.
VOTE: Nobody Special

[Honest Abel]

Huh, what are you implying? You're implying kcd admitted he's scum but then changed his mind or something?

Not admitted, but if his surprise sounded genuine, it could have been because he actually did slip up for one reason or another.

[Kcdaspot]

.... i read the setup as 3 scum:

3 maf or 2 maf one SK.

???????????????????

hang on...

I may just be a idiot now.

Seems pretty belieavable

i go on to point out that the odds are 128:1 for that happening.

we have 3 scum among us. i am going to assume this no matter what.

[Honest Abel]

Surprise, shock, embarrassment, whatever you want to call it when you realize your dick has been flopping in the wind through your zipper all day.

Sure, you proved it afterward using logic and mathematics, but your intuitive impression was that there are definitely three scum. Whereas I don't think anyone else had that intuitive impression based on the setup. Unless somehow you are some kinda robot who understands statistics immediately how the rest of us know that bananas are yellow.

[Honest Abel]

Take, for instance, how you had to prove it by showing everyone the math.

[Kcdaspot]

or i can just read the wiki do it in my head.

theres that.

[Kcdaspot]

Surprise, shock, embarrassment, whatever you want to call it when you realize your dick has been flopping in the wind through your zipper all day.

so i take it you like what you see?

[izakthegoomba]

Hi there! Going to read the thread. Surely NS can't need to catch up on

the whole game

?

[SGRaaize]

Yeah, I am really thinking Honest Abel is Town here, if I'm wrong, I'm gonna murder myself

[Kcdaspot]

SGR i have to agree with you despite everything but it's only slight.

[Amor]

Yeah, I am really thinking Honest Abel is Town here, if I'm wrong, I'm gonna murder myself

SGR i have to agree with you despite everything but it's only slight.

Um... care to explain?

And the way you jumped on Kcd for the mishap on pgs. 13/14 (the thing I was just talking about with SGR) seemed like too easy of a thing to really jump on someone about.

Sure, you proved it afterward using logic and mathematics, but your intuitive impression was that there are definitely three scum. Whereas I don't think anyone else had that intuitive impression based on the setup. Unless somehow you are some kinda robot who understands statistics immediately how the rest of us know that bananas are yellow.

Okay, so let me get this straight. You're voting NS, at least in part, for how he jumped on kcda for his alleged scumslip. But at the same time you're implying with the above post that town wouldn't assume there'd be three scum. So is kcda's post a scumslip or not? There's really not a lot of middle ground here.

[Honest Abel]

Did I imply that town wouldn't assume there'd be three scum? I said almost no player would assume there'd be three scum without calculating the statistics beforehand, which I don't think anyone did. It doesn't even look like Kcd did it beforehand, which makes his assumption stand out. Basically, nobody agreed with him until he whipped out the calculator to show people. But that's supporting his statement after the fact. There's also Muffin's point here:

Actually there are a few ways you could know it without being scum. But I wouldn't read too deeply into that being anything more than an assumption.

Basically, I can't tell whether Kcd slipped because he's scum or a special role, or whether it was just a mistake. I don't think anybody can, unless there's something I'm missing. It's weird, but it's not something I would decide his alignment on. NS attacking it despite the fact that it's not really consequential is scummy.

By the way, Amor, what are your feelings on other players? You've been tunneling me since the beginning of the game, why not take a break?

[Nobody Special]

Abel, you'll find that the things that seem inconsequential at first blush can win or lose the game.