ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[Magua]

@Mod:

Please PM everyone who's still alive and hasn't posted that the Day's started.

[Magua]

@Empking:

Do you have daytalk?

[Thor665]

@Emp - I hear you talking but have no idea what you're saying. You're saying the CR has to be one of the Seven Priest classes? Aren't the cult fluffed out as some alternate religion entirely?

[Magua]

He's saying Embodiment of the Warrior is either a fakeclaim, or was already recruited into the cult.

[Empking]

@Empking:

Do you have daytalk?

Let me talk to my buddies about whether I should answer that.

Thor: Espeonage is not what he claimed. He's not on my side. Therefore he is cult. A cult recruit would be honest about the role (maybe excepting recruitability).

[Magua]

It being a fakeclaim is problematic, because that daykill had to come from somewhere.

[Magua]

Empking, let me put it this way: if you say "yes, we have daytalk", then I am more willing to believe Espeonage-cult-recruiter and unknown-culted-Embodiment-of-the-Warrior set up the whole thing.

Yes, I know your response sarcastically infers that you do have it. But I just like to be nice and clear about such things.

[Empking]

It being a fakeclaim is problematic, because that daykill had to come from somewhere.

A point of balance based on their being 9 unrecruitables. Plus it would protect him from a D1 lynch.

Edit: How was it sarcastic? Yes we have daytalk.

[SpyreX]

Benmage you are retarded.

Two kills AND Empking's claiming esp did one?

The one scenario that's flat out is Emp / Esp scum. That would be the dumbest thing in history with Emp being outed as scum. So, this is either a lie to try to live (wont work) or the truth (two kills gives that some plausibility).

So, the question is: what the hell is Esp, why did he lie?

Esp as cult recruiter hurts the head. That means cult had a kill. D4 and N5 neuters any kind of even/odd mechanics. Unless it was recruit A person and then have a cycle kill. Which is something but kinda paints a bastard tint even on cult if its not a real cult.

Esp as lying town would be par for the idiot course. However, despite Magua's farily legit no sk claim and considering my PROVEN TRACK RECORD with flavor I've got a different theory that just jumped into my head and would be amazing and fit:

Esp is an SK. More specifically he's a faceless man representing the Temple of Black and White. Even more specifically he's been given some serious nod to the book flavor and has three kills he can use at any time.

The problem with that is two kills at this point makes NO sense under any guise and is pretty much busted.

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The only plus we have is that chances are decent that with NEITHER CES or LB being cult (which was actually surprising) that one of them was the cult attempt last night.

Which gives pretty much this being the only chance for town to win I can think of :

1.) Lynch Empking. If there's 4 scum total (and another kill makes me pretty sure about that) a lynch today on not scum is game regardless.
2.) Scum kill ESP. This is kinda a double hope because either he's SK and he's going to kill and there will be crosskills OR he's a recruiter and killing happens clearly before recruitment so.
3.) This puts us at 6/2 scum tomorrow. If Esp isn't the cult recruiter AND there's 2 recruits then I get to decide a winner huzzah!
--- If Esp is the cult recruiter hopefully that puts it at 2/2/2 and its lynch scum AND hope for scum to hit cult for a 1/2/1. From there its lynch scum and then find the cult.

... Yea I'm not winning this game.

BUT THERE IS HOPE.

[Magua]

@Mod:

If the cult recruiter is killed at Night, does the recruiting go through? y/n/idk?

[Empking]

I disagree with any plan that involves me getting lynched. I'm the only useful power role still alive.

[Magua]

You're right.

Have one of your goon buddies claim, we'll lynch them instead.

I recommend Locke.

[SpyreX]

Magua's right I'd absolutely let you sacrifice another one to live another day.

Of course that narrows it down for cult though :tinfoil:

[ooba]

@Mod:

If the cult recruiter is killed at Night, does the recruiting go through? y/n/idk?

Can't say. (As usual)

[Magua]

Going by this, have to believe that recruitment comes after the kill.

Sorry Empking, but you saying specifically 9 unrecruitables when you know you're fake and you are professing that Espeonage is fake means 5 unrecruitable PRs, means 4 mafia, means 3 living mafia, means autoloss if we don't lynch mafia today.

I'm going to wait until Espeonage gets in here and says something, because I'm a lulzy bastard, but then I'm lynching you.
Unless Locke claims to be mafia, which, really, he should've done D5 instead of you. Then I'll lynch Locke.

[Espeonage]

Fuck.

Ok I'm an SK. I am Embodiment of the warrior. I had three kills with the option of using them as daykills. I was blocked night 2 trying to kill LB. At least that is what I think happened because he didn't die. I have no more kills.

[Empking]

Let's No Lynch.

[Thor665]

We have a claimed SK and a claimed scum - why would we want to no lynch?

[Empking]

We have a claimed SK and a claimed scum - why would we want to no lynch?

Numbers.

Let's say 3 scum, 3 cult, 2 townies. We No lynch and we're on 3 scum, 3 cult, 1 townie. We No Lynch and we're on 3 scum, 3 cult. Everybody wins!

[Thor665]

@Espeo - recruit immune, y/n?

@Emp - fire, go find one.

[Empking]

@Emp - fire, go find one.

Cult. You can't argue with the numbers (plus you pretending to buy the most nerfed SK ever that stole most (but not the important bit) from SpyreX.)

[SpyreX]

You cheeky bastards.

There are 7, right? 3 dead, Esp, Emp, Spy. That leaves 1. Not very helpful PoEwise.

I'm not sure whether the embodiments are all unrecruitable. Neither SK nor cow mentioned being unrecruitable.

CES wasn't unrecruitable I'd bet.

Which means I was losing my mind because the SCUM AND SK were the only ones claiming my business.

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With that and it being D6 with one cult dead I think I am a literal minority. Unless the cult is REALLY bad at picking targets:

8 alive with 3/1 violent jerks and 1-3 jerks and me with the inverse. Which means the only scenario in which I'm ahead is if the cult missed every night but AGM AND there was only 1 cult to start with.

Yea something tells me this is hilariously screwed right now.

Esp's "I can't kill anymore guyz" is probably bunk but thats for scum to deal with. If you hit scum I think its gg cult though liar face.

Unvote, Vote: Emp

[Espeonage]

Unrec @ Thor

[Espeonage]

Vote: Empking

[SpyreX]

Esp, since I'm pretty sure you're lying and I want this to be clear:

Your only shot at winning (which is slim) is not getting killed tonight AND not killing mafia (or me, duh). Half I can't control but the other is obvious:

Aim for the CR. Llocke is probably mafia and isn't CR. Magua is most definitely NOT mafia. Hindu I didn't think is mafia. Thor's playing like a super recruit and isn't CR. . Nexus, hrm, still is around doing nothing.

If I were you I'd be praying and probably killing Magua or Nexus.