New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

[Estyn]

1. Empking - Town
2. Kcdaspot - Scum, not liking your posts until about 2 pages ago
3. Estyn - Town
4. Xeras - Null
5. Foolish Fool (Haylen + JordanA24) - Town
6. mastin2 - Town
7. Vifam - Null leaning town, still don't like that argument between you and Johhog though
8. BomberMan - Null leaning scum
9. Fool_Hardy - Null leaning town
10. David Xanatos - Scum, don't like you not answering questions
11. Oversoul - Null leaning town, self voting doesn't sit well with me though, don't know why you would do that.
14. LordChronos - Null
15. Johhog - Town, don't like that argument between you and vifam though
16. LTP Mafia - Null
17. Secret Project (evilpacman18 + MrBump) - Scum
20. redFF - Null leaning town

Ommitted people haven't posted yet, i skim read the last 6 pages or so, may have missed a post by them.

[Empking]

Kc: Have we really not played beore? Boimber is a mild town read.

[Bomberman]

ITT: New people put everyone who they can't read as scum

[Foolish Fool]

TBH i'm not liking oversoul


at all

You are not alone.

Besides otherwise baseless claims, I don't know why I am disliked.

There's your problem.

Vifam v. Oversoul is SvT

Vote: Oversoul

If you're not going to give a decent reason for doing this, then it looks a lot like hopping onto a bandwagon. Fact is that a lot of your posts have been you quoting something someone said and saying things like "confirmed town" or whatever, which really isn't helpful at this point. No-one could possibly be confirmed anything this early unless something very unusual happens.

Speaking of unhelpful, insulting everyone who disagrees with you really isn't helping your case, I think I said this to someone else earlier, but doing that makes you look panicky and desperate. Not to mention it makes the game less fun for people.

Serial Killers (the only independant allowed in LNs) are scum.

If this is true, try telling that to Bomberman...

8. BomberMan - Indy aligned town

I think you might have been caught either lying or implying you're an SK...

Vote: Bomberman

Btw Oversoul, whichever side you're on, self-voting really doesn't help it, please unvote yourself.

[Bomberman]

I left this window open in another tab while I farted around on YouTube.

So you're gonna ignore my unvote then?

vote: Oversoul

[Bomberman]

I think you might have been caught either lying or implying you're an SK...

Vote: Bomberman

It's a Joke, i mentioned in the questions i liked being Indy.

[Bomberman]

Also, have you not read what i talked to Oversoul about? i gave enough reason, i could go into detail but i'd save me a headache.

[Secret Project]

unvote

[Secret Project]

ugh

unvote

[Secret Project]

Oversoul is pissed off town. He made it clear enough. Self-voting is anti-town, not at all scummy unless it's a self-hammer.

[Bomberman]

Oversoul is pissed off town. He made it clear enough. Self-voting is anti-town, not at all scummy unless it's a self-hammer.

wanted to believe this but he hasn't done anything ever since the unvote.

maybe i can still believe it, he needs to respond to some shit first though.

[Foolish Fool]

I was trying to find out if someone's scum -_-

Really? You seemed to be focusing on whether or not he was a VT, you mentioned VT a lot more than scum when discussing it with him. Speculating he is probably a VT is a very bad idea because scum can use info like that when deciding on a night-kill target.

Don't use my own point against me.

Then please say why you said you were trying to find out if somebody's scum when you clearly seemed to be asking about him being a VT

It is most certainly a pain in the arse. Marill can keep black. I'll use this.

You get used to the colour system, dw

But if you find it to be too much of a bother, you could try something like putting your name in brackets or something at the top of the post, and Marill doing the same.

If certainty is a scumtell, why aren't you trying to quicklynch mastin?

I didn't mean to say certainty is a scumtell (though as I mentioned in the previous post it's a bit dodgy), the reason I questioned Johhog is because the way he said "Unfortunately I didn't catch scum this time" seemed quite like a scumslip, if that makes sense. I can explain deeper if it doesn't.

I think you might have been caught either lying or implying you're an SK...

Vote: Bomberman

It's a Joke, i mentioned in the questions i liked being Indy.

Ah OK, sorry,

Unvote

Having that said, I will by policy UNVOTE: Vifam (didn't realise I still voted him), VOTE: Oversoul even while he is reading town to me.
Selfvoters must die. If he is scum, we're lucky. If he is town, he is playing against his wincon and should GTFO if he doesn't unvote now.

I'm sorry but this doesn't make any sense, even as a policy lynch. I'm aware it's frustrating when people self-vote (especially if they self-hammer, that really is annoying), however, if players refuse to play to their win condition, they tend to get replaced or, in serious cases, modkilled, it's in the site rules after all to play to your win condition. So policy-lynching Oversoul because he's self-voting is a waste of a lynch (because we could be lynching someone who's actually showing scummy behaviour, and therefore we'd be relying less on chance to have caught scum), and, if you think he's town, it's very counterproductive, especially if you're right.

[Empking]

Kc: Have we really not played beore? Boimber is a mild town read.

Wait I forgot BM was Mr. Indy. He's a mild scumread.

[Johhog]

Foolish Fool: I don't intend to lynch him as there is scummier people. My vote is more a way to tell him "Unvote. Now" and if he does I will unvote him. The same thing if he gets force-replaced, I will unvote if so.

[Vifam]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

THAT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT YOU ARE PRESENTING.

FUCK THIS TOWN.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Oversoul

rid myself of this cancer of a game

HURR

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bomberman

[Kcdaspot]

Kc: Have we really not played beore? Boimber is a mild town read.

we may have... not sure...

[Bomberman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

THAT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT YOU ARE PRESENTING.

FUCK THIS TOWN.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Oversoul

rid myself of this cancer of a game

HURR

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bomberman

por que?

[Vifam]

Oversoul is just pissed off town for no reason and scum has to be on his wagon.


Specially you.

[Foolish Fool]

Foolish Fool: I don't intend to lynch him as there is scummier people. My vote is more a way to tell him "Unvote. Now" and if he does I will unvote him. The same thing if he gets force-replaced, I will unvote if so.

I see, fair enough I guess

I'll agree Bomberman isn't presenting the best arguments atm, his posting style is obnoxious (I'm sorry, there's no other way of saying it mate, I hope you take this criticism constructively), whether that makes him scum, I'm honestly not sure, my gut tells me no for now, scum tend to look less obvious than that. Tend to of course being the operative phrase. He is a newbie, so giving him the benefit of the doubt and looking for players displaying more solidly scummy play might be the best thing for us to do now.

[Bomberman]

Oversoul is just pissed off town for no reason and scum has to be on his wagon.


Specially you.

I presented a case against him saying he is scum, i only had a change of heart because of his unvote, and thought it was flailing town, but he literally didn't do anything afterwards, he didn't respond, nothing.

Same goes with you, you said he was scum, but then he self-voted and you had a change of heart, don't be a hypocrite child

[Bomberman]

his posting style is obnoxious

K

He is a newbie

I had to catch up 14 pages of shit, i'm gonna be a little bit pissed, i tend not to be as aggravated but this game gave me a bad taste in my mouth, also, opnions, i think you're a newbie from how you're playing, you wanted to vote me on an opposed slip about something i wouldn't obviously claim; what goes around comes around

[Vifam]

He's obviouslly pissed off, you can't expect him to suddenly forgive everyone for the BW him and stop being anti town.


He should unvote though.

[Bomberman]

Fair point, i could use a chill pill also, hopefully things turn better, i don't like getting obnoxious but i will when i feel i have to

[Kcdaspot]

i'm letting my vote on oversoul ride. his posts before then just does not read town... at all.

[Foolish Fool]

I had to catch up 14 pages of shit, i'm gonna be a little bit pissed, i tend not to be as aggravated but this game gave me a bad taste in my mouth, also, opnions, i think you're a newbie from how you're playing, you wanted to vote me on an opposed slip about something i wouldn't obviously claim; what goes around comes around

I assure you I'm not a newbie, I joined MS originally in 2007, though it's been a while since I've played I'll admit.

Kcda, why does Oversoul not read town? You've said over and over that Oversoul is "so so scummy", but you've not given a single reason for it other than a reference to Appeal to Emotion, the only genuine example of which I can find is the self-vote, everything else has just been frustration on his part. That isn't good enough for me.