THE APPRENTICE [Four Remain?!]

[Cybele]

/interesting. Consider this my application.

[Cybele]

Well I already have an idea for a game that I think would be great.

Ditto.

[Cybele]

and isn't it more satisfying to be playing in "the ultimate mish-mash game"?

This is a question to ask yourself before you join the game.

[Cybele]

An hour and fifteen minutes until deadline. My team needs to get Project Manager votes in or I will announce one.
Thanks.

[Cybele]

I'm announcing Mist7676 as our Project Manager.

[Cybele]

Nice avy.

[Cybele]

Shame on you, kiwi. That's quite unsportsmanlike you you to do.
Keep your nose in your own business, thanks.

[Cybele]

The first task is to figure out what the first task is. I have won.

[Cybele]

http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbr ... a/est.html
I think BB is thinking of EDT.

[Cybele]

Have you clicked the link? And read all that?
I have no idea what's going on now.

[Cybele]

So did I. Those were some funny reads. I mean, trying to trick someone into giving you our QT? lolz.
Those were some great ideas, too. I particularly like World of Mafiacraft. Apples to Apples was a bit overdone, though.

[Cybele]

So did I. Those were some funny reads. I mean, trying to trick someone into giving you our QT? lolz.
Those were some great ideas, too. I particularly like World of Mafiacraft. Apples to Apples was a bit overdone, though.

Screw you, you don't steal our ideas.

Apparently, my idea of world of mafiacraft, so you guys can give us an advantage.

lol, wouldn't touch it.

[Cybele]

ricardochamorro3: THANKS TO WHOEVER
whatthemeep1: WHAT HAPPENED
me: what's happening?
ricardochamorro3: YOU FUCKED US UP
FUCK U
whatthemeep1: I DUNNO.
ricardochamorro3: FUCK U
FUCK U
me: What?
Me?
ricardochamorro3: FUCK U
whatthemeep1: We're just pissed that
ricardochamorro3: YES
whatthemeep1: Someone posted the QT.
...of our mole thing.
ricardochamorro3: YOU DID IT
ricardochamorro3: YOU DID IT
whatthemeep1: I don't even know of.
ricardochamorro3: YOU WERE ALL LIKE
"I DONT LIKE ALLIANCES QQ" NEXT THING
EVERYONE
whatthemeep1: Our secret QT between me and TS, you know.
ricardochamorro3: KNOWS THE QT

You want to play this game dirty, and you get pissed off when someone plays dirty back to you. How idiotic.
Please tell me what the point of all this scheming was. I mean, really, what could you hope to gain in the one game that was 100% based on putting forth a solid effort. It's hard-work, creativity, and proving yourself to be the best at making and moderating a game.
It's not survivor. Alliances are pointless. Scheming is pointless. Trying to get our QT is pointless. What would you have done if you'd gotten it, tried to steal our ideas? Not that that's the accusation I'm making. It's just the only possible end that I can think of.
Your game so far has been absolutely unsuited for Apprentice, kiwi. And your bullshit has cost one of your strongest members, diginova to just be sick of dealing with it.
Congrats. That's what you've wrought.

[Cybele]

We'll gladly take diginova into our team, were that to be possible. He's a valuable member of any team.

[Cybele]

What was posted was a QT of a select number of team 2 trying to convince someone from my team to trade them our QT for a fake that they'd engineer. Sounds like they just had their dirty laundry see the light of day.

[Cybele]

Tell me exactly where I'm wrong, then. Which piece of that wasn't right on the money? I'll correct it. I just want to make sure everything here is in pursuit of the truth.
*warm smile*

[Cybele]

My team needs to get in the QT and start discussing our challenge.
I've been working on the essay and I'd like some critiques. Otherwise, the discussion is dead.
What's our Project Manager doing during all of this?

[Cybele]

I didn't want to be. And I've seen ani at work, but I haven't really seen Mist at work.

Anyways, we need TornadoSwirl and JDGA to actually post something in the QT. PM me if you're even reading the thread. DonJosh, get back in the QT please, as well.

[Cybele]

Actually,

MOD:

We need a replacement for TornadoSwirl, if possible. He hasn't posted since he signed up for the game last Friday. He only has 3 posts in the forum at all.
He's a clear flake.

[Cybele]

TornadoSwirl has clearly left. Passively, through not existing.

[Cybele]

For teh replacorz pweez :3

We have two people who haven't posted since signing up. You'll probably have to deal.
How are you guys doing, anyways?

[Cybele]

Cool. We've got a pretty good idea for a game, but no real progress on the second assignment yet.
First assignment's rough draft is waiting for some editing, then good to ship.

[Cybele]

First assignment's rough draft is waiting for some editing, then good to ship.

Haha, no. Literally nothing you could do could make us touch 'World of Mafiascum'.

[Cybele]

think of a New Game for the second Assignment.

Oh man. Sounds bad.
I think we lucked out having kloud on our side. It was his idea that really got the ball rolling for us.
Did you have trouble fitting it all into 500 words? We're about 68 words over. Hard to know what to cut.

[Cybele]

I've already asked my group if they mind me posting the QT.
I've never really had any problem with you know what we're up to. What could you possibly do with it?

[Cybele]

Be sure to remember that the posts are in reverse order.
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/rQUh9ckyMmqyQ
Please look, don't touch.

[Cybele]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wy50I0E8u0&NR=1

[Cybele]

Can anyone submit the assignments, or only the Project Manager?

[Cybele]

Team Eucleia has submitted our Assignments.

[Cybele]

I can't wait to see how the two entries stack up.

[Cybele]

I know ours has been on display for anyone to see.
I still want to see how they stack up. Who had the better idea, presentation and such?

[Cybele]

I wish BB asked me what I contributed to this task. I would have had the BEST answer. Guaranteed.

[Cybele]

Cybele

• Why did you post your team's discussion in the thread, what advantage do you think this provides your team? Were you cocky that your team was going to win?

It wasn't overconfidence that inspired me to post our QT, though it would be lying to imply that I am not exceedingly proud of the work we've done these past couple days. Rather, it was a wish to get away from the underhanded dealings that were going on previously. And a bit of curiosity. I knew how our project was going. I wanted to see how the other team was doing, as well. The simplest and most straightforward gesture I could think of was to offer up ours.
The way I see it, there's no real loss in letting the competition know where you're at. It changes nothing about your end result. It can only effect their result, either by demoralizing them, or hopefully, by encouraging them to strive further. I want a real competition out of this. That's why I did what I've done, posting our QT discussion among other things.

• Are you satisfied with your team's final submission?

Certainly. The submission is nearly flawless, in my mind. We've worked tirelessly on its completion, at times going beyond what was necessary. If there are failings in its design or presentation, I do not see them. Not for want of not seeing them, mind.

• Why did you send me the final submission and not Mist7676?

Deadline was closing soon, and I didn't wish to miss it. Mist hadn't been active in awhile, so I took it upon myself to submit our finished project. Not that I want to imply that Mist was lying down on the job. No one can be online all the time. It was just precautionary.

• Who on your team were the weak links?

TornadoSwirl comes to mind. Similarly, JDGA. The first is an inexcusable flake. The second claims to have issues reaching the Quicktopic, but never mentioned any of this to us for quite a long time, nor did he contribute in other ways.

Cybele

• What did you contribute to this task?

I participated fully in the discussion, building upon ideas proposed by kloud, ZazieR and ani, and proposing my own. I wrote the first draft of the Essay (Assignment #1), and worked with kloud and DonJosh to edit it down to fit guidelines. I helped to edit kloud's flavour and designs for Assignment #2. Aside from that, I helped us to stay on task, keep motivated, and prod lurkers.
I designed the banner for Team Excel's OP. I also helped to format the assignment, and discussed some adjustments in mechanics with their Project Manager Tragedy.
I had a metric fuckton of fun. I had a completely unrelated person post inflammatory material in thread in an attempt to stop certain players' attempts at subterfuge. I participated in juvenile sabotage.
I helped decide our team name, though the final suggestion that was accepted was not mine.

[Cybele]

Nope. I didn't do it.

[Cybele]

Also, I wasn't already immediately on the chopping block if we lost?

Chevre and cjdrum.

[Cybele]

Team Eucleia

Mist7676

^{[Project Manager]}

• Explain to me how YOU led your team to your current submission? Why didn't you send me the submission?
• Who came up with the idea that was submitted (the essay and the mish mash game)?
• Did you permit Cybele to post your QT in the thread, and if so, why?
• Who didn't perform so well in this task?
• Are you satisfied with your final submission?

DonJosh

animorpherv1

kloud1516

Cybele

JDGA

• What did you contribute to this task?
• Are you satisfied with your team's final submission?
• How do you think Mist7676 performed as Project Manager?
• Who on your team were the wink links?

ZazieR

• What did you contribute to this task?
• Do you think Cybele posting the QT in the thread was a smart move?
• Are you satisfied with your team's final submission?
• Who on your team were the wink links?

TornadoSwirl

• Did you contribute anything to this task?
• Are you alive?
• What are your thoughts on your team's final submission?
• Do you think Cybele posting the QT in the thread was a smart move?

Team Excel

Tragedy

^{[Project Manager]}

Quilford

cjdrum

• What did you contribute during this task?
• Are you satisfied with your team's final submission?
• How do you think Tragedy performed as Project Manager?
• Do you think Cybele posting their team's QT in the thread was a smart move?

SleepyKrew

kiwieagle

• Who performed the worst during this task?
• Are you satisfied with your team's final submission?
• Who do you think is to blame for diginova's disatisfaction with the way the game was being played?
• What do you think of Cybele's decision to post their team's QT in the thread? Did seeing your opponent's QT assist your team in bettering your submission?

TwistedSpoon

Chevre

• What did you contribute during this task?
• Are you satisfied with your team's final submission?
• How do you think Tragedy performed as Project Manager?
• What is your reaction to diginova's resignation?

Leonshade

[Cybele]

Cybele

• It would appear that you assisted the other team in the creation of their final submission. Considering this is a competition, how do you think that affects my view of you? What made you think that was a smart decision?

This is a competition with the goal of:

[...finding]

an Apprentice to assist me in the co-moderation of an upcoming game I am planning. This apprentice will assist me with storyline development, plot twists, game mechanics, updates, etc. With our powers combined, we will create the ultimate Mish Mash game that will go down in history as the BEST GAME EVER.

I think that my actions do more to prove my desire and ability to act as a successful co-moderator than they would reflect poorly on our team for the competition. I stand by my actions, and believe that even if my team does not win this challenge, the end result is a better competition which will result in better competitors lasting through to the end of the game. I think I've only benefitted you, as the final (nay, sole) judge of who is to become your Apprentice.
And I think you see that.

Oh, and Tragedy totally didn't ask for my help. I just sort of found a way into her team's QT and helped incognito. It was one of my slip-ups that revealed who I was. I blame her team for not helping her during the crunch-time.

[Cybele]

To Anyone

• What do you think of your opponent's submission?

I like it, but I think similar games have been done, even in recent past. Wizard battle is fairly close, in theme and some mechanics, though this Warlock is thankfully simpler, and has the addition of a playing-field. And team mechanics.
It's also rather similar to Rumble games, but I suppose that's cursory.
I probably wouldn't play it, but that's just personal preference.

Oh, and I actually dislike the fundamentals they've chosen. Some of them seem kinda... dumb.

[Cybele]

> WHOS THIS
CYBELE: Your team is scattered
> DAMNIT, UR CYBELE

Now quote the bit where I suggest the red/green to match the banner, then suggest that it be more subtle, and then show the formatting of the OP, showing just how bad I understand the concept of 'subtlety'.

[Cybele]

Bumping players often? Sure, it's a good idea, but not a 'fundamental of mishmash games'.

[Cybele]

> WHOS THIS
CYBELE: Your team is scattered
> DAMNIT, UR CYBELE

Now quote the bit where I suggest the red/green to match the banner, then suggest that it be more subtle, and then show the formatting of the OP, showing just how bad I understand the concept of 'subtlety'.

Is it to prove that I'm pinning the credits on you or?
Yeah, I have nothing much to say anyways about the colors.

lol no. Just commenting on how it's basically my fault that your game is being called 'christmassy'. And that I not only saw it coming, but failed to listen to my own advice anyways.
bit of a failure on my part.

[Cybele]

fun·da·men·tal

 [fuhn-duh-men-tl]
adjective
1. serving as, or being an essential part of, a foundation or basis; basic; underlying:

fundamental principles; the fundamental structure.

noun
5. a basic principle, rule, law, or the like, that serves as the groundwork of a system; essential part:

to master the fundamentals of a trade.

I just don't think some of the choices you made are really fundamentals of a mish mash game.

[Cybele]

To Anyone

• What do you think of your opponent's submission?

I like it, but I think similar games have been done, even in recent past. Wizard battle is fairly close, in theme and some mechanics, though this Warlock is thankfully simpler, and has the addition of a playing-field. And team mechanics.
It's also rather similar to Rumble games, but I suppose that's cursory.
I probably wouldn't play it, but that's just personal preference.

Oh, and I actually dislike the fundamentals they've chosen. Some of them seem kinda... dumb.

Cybele

• Do you have something against Rumble games? You actually think this game is comparable to a Rumble game?

The point of comparison was to note that it had echoed previous games. It was not a criticism of Rumbles, or Wizard battle, for that matter.
Also:

cur·so·ry

   [kur-suh-ree]
adjective
going rapidly over something, without noticing details; hasty;

superficial

:

a cursory glance at a newspaper article.

[Cybele]

Team Excel

Mish Mash Needs

The first fundamental is hosting your game to the best of your ability.

It could be phrased better as 'diligence'. Not actually all that bad, it parallels with our weakest fundamental 'mod commitment'. Actually, I suppose I'm a bit hesitant to criticize this for that reason. Still, qualities of the moderator aren't qualities of the game. For that reason, diligence and commitment aren't really good fundamentals.

The second fundamental is to lend class to your game through good narrative and
pleasing aesthetics.

No problem here. A bit similar to ours of 'theme flavouring', but yours also includes presentation. An improvement, actually.

The third fundamental is to keep the game simple.

Meh. I guess...

A game lives and dies based on its player activity (Notify the Players often), which is why letting many players engage in the game is the fourth fundamental.

So this one is actually 'have lots of players?'
If that's right, it's not a fundamental.

The final fundamental is to make your game fast-paced.

Meh.
I'll be honest. I probably just like my fundamentals better than yours. They just seem to cut into what the key aspects of a game is more than yours do. Mine seem more about game theory, and yours more about keeping the game active.

[Cybele]

Mine seem more about game theory, and yours more about keeping the game active.

Well, they were supposed to be the fundamentals of a

phenomenal

Mish Mash game.

...phenomenal ≠ successfully completing.

[Cybele]

Cybele: While we're talking about disagreeing with the other side's essay, I'm going to disagree with your inclusion of innovation as a fundamental. Not every successful game needs to be a new idea, Ferris Wheel is hardly new these days yet there's a few seperate games of that on the first page alone. There's also existing games like Yahtzee and Word Morph.

Well, they were supposed to be the fundamentals of a

phenomenal

Mish Mash game.

I wouldn't consider the sequels of Ferris Wheel to be phenomenal. The original, sure.

[Cybele]

It has been suggested the possibility of a double-firing.

[Cybele]

Cybele

- This is a competition. I do not expect you to assist the other team. If I were in competition with another Mish Mash host, I would not want my apprentice to run to the other moderator and help him or her build their ideas. While I appreciate the enthusiasm to make this a good competition, if you assist the other team, that disallows me to see what the potential candidates are capable of. You become a distraction that detracts from the other contestants. Assisting the other team is a bad idea, do not do it again.

Consider me humbled.

[Cybele]

What will the next challenge include?

[Cybele]

I'm not even including him in our team. He's not here, so why bother?

[Cybele]

Also, Team Excel has picked

Cybele

as our Project Manager.

Cool, send me your new QT link then, so I can contribute.

[Cybele]

Okay, first, change your name to Team Cybele. Y'know, to unify the goddess theme and keep us competive.
Then rely on me to do everything. Don't lift a finger. In fact, just leave MS for a couple days, and come back in time for the next boardroom.

Yeah, that's right.

[Cybele]

I don't think SK has a real kismesissitude going with CSL.

[Cybele]

Okay, so as you should know, we're all run by two major emotions: hate and pity. It's the combination and interaction between these two emotions that give us the four quadrants of romance. These are typically divided into two hemispheres: red romance (

♥

,

♦

) and black romance (♣, ♠). Red romance is the pity hemisphere, and black romance is governed by hate.
Within the red hemisphere we have:

♥

Matespriteship: Also called the flushed quadrant. Matesprits feel a sort of strong affection to each other, that is sexual in nature, as well.

♦

Moirallegiance: Also called the pale quadrant. Moirails act to keep each other balanced. Often in a sort of straight man/wise guy dynamic where two opposites act as each others foil as well protect each other and keep each other company
In the black hemisphere is:
♣Auspistice: Also called the ashen quadrant. An auspistice is a facilitator between two others, mediating interactions between them and keeping their relationship functional. Black romances without an auspistice often fall into kismesissitude. The auspistice keeps two people linked in hate from letting their hate grow so much that they become a sort of caliginous infidelity.
♠Kismesissitude: Also called the caliginous quadrant. Both parties feel a deep hatred for each other that thrives on rivalry and breeds sexual tension.

It's worth noting that all four quadrants are unstable and often slide between each other in relationships. Feelings of matespriteship may be returned with kismesissitude, or a kismesissitude may flip to and fro with matespriteship.
Moirallegiences can shift to either flushed or caliginous in a heartbeat, and all that keeps an ashen romance from becoming sexual is the meddling of the auspistice.

It's all very complicated.

[Cybele]

JDGA thinks you and CSL have a kismesissitude going on, and I think it's just run-of-the-mill hate.

CSL is def not who I'd ship you with.

[Cybele]

Incidentally, I'm Team Eucleia's Project Manager, I guess.

[Cybele]

For kismesissitude, I don't want to narrow it down (no one sees my secret shipping wall, h33 h33!), but it's someone who frequents f62.

[Cybele]

Cyberbob♠ortolan

I mean, it's so obvious....

[Cybele]

JDGA thinks you and CSL have a kismesissitude going on, and I think it's just run-of-the-mill hate.

Agreed.

Also why the fuck do you have Gamzee as your avatar. He is the least appealing of all the trolls >_>

He's my patron troll and I love him.
EDIT: I love them all.

[Cybele]

Sollux? He's one of the more bland ones...
0_O

[Cybele]

Kanaya =♥= Vriska

Noooooooo. You can't break up my Vriska

♥

John.

[Cybele]

I think I love Karkat most, most of the time. I love Vriska most, secondly. Gamzee and Terezi thereabouts.
Special cockles reserved for Eriden's loneliness and Equius' sweaty, pervy hilarity.

Those are my favourites.

AGH: spelling

[Cybele]

Baha. This thread is oooooooours!

[Cybele]

So what's the symbol for non-romantic, non-sexual hate? Or is that not covered?

It could be an auspistice-moderated ashen romance. the club covers that. Thing is about trolls, pretty much everyone hates everyone. So for it to be true ashen, it'd have to have a reason to need an auspistice. Higher than average hate levels.

Preview Edit: I'm not telling you that, because it's not relevant.

[Cybele]

Go create a Homestuck thread in GD and we can double this site's posts ^____________________________^

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =6&t=18765

[Cybele]

His phonE line is possibly still out.

[Cybele]

Okay, so this challenge is giving us 29 hours. Not a lot of wiggle room. Everyone to the QT while I lay out the tasks.

[Cybele]

Team Eucleia: You guys willing to agree to the extension?

If we need it.

[Cybele]

You guys better work faster. then.

[Cybele]

Like the circles that you find
in the windmills of your mind.

[Cybele]

Is there a reason that url tags aren't working?

[Cybele]

To not share the link that I actually wish to employ. You can have a nice guess from the text, if you want.

[Cybele]

Team Eucleia has submitted.

[Cybele]

First, the font is Baskerville, not Bakersville. It's actually a common typeface.
Second, I'm needed elsewhere, but I will answer these in a few hours.

[Cybele]

Cybele

^{[Project Manager]}

• How do you think you performed as Project Manager?

I did my best. I made every decision with the team's best performance in mind. I organized us quickly, encouraged discussion, brought forth goals for us to achieve, and showcased each players' contributions in the QT. When it was necessary, I worked later hours, and made calls that I felt needed to be made. I'm sorry if feelings were hurt, but if the decisions I made helped us to achieve another win, will always stand by them.

• Who worked on Assignment #3 for this task?

Everyone that was active at all contributed to both assignments in some way. Primarily, Assignment #3 was headed by Thomith, animorpherv1 and Mist7676.

• Who worked on Assignment #4 for this task? Do you think the image of the ferris wheel is clearly noticeable?

Once again, everyone who was active contributed to all aspects of this Task. The banner was designed primarily by kloud and myself, though. Mist also designed a banner, but it was not used.

• Who wrote the opening post/rewrote the text for this task?

The final version of the text was written by kloud and myself. Versions that were not used were worked on by the previously mentioned Thomith, animorpherv1 and Mist.

• Are you satisfied with your final submission?

Barring a last minute kerfuffle regarding our font choice (as seen primarily in my correspondence with you when submitting the Task), I feel everything is satisfactory

• Give me a summary of each player's work on this task and how you would rank them.

Damn, I'm repeating myself here.
kloud1516: Spent copious amounts of time designing the banner. Includes looking for images, photoshopping them together, attempting to add text, putting up with my shitty ideas, staying up until the wee hours of the morning, and discussing any ideas I had at the time. Also added text to the OP, which really improved it as a whole. Basically, any text changes not including the song lyrics were kloud's work. He was easily the strongest contributer.
Cybele: Organization, discussion, helping kloud with the banner, wasting his time with ideas that didn't go anywhere, providing the song lyrics, formatting the font colours and such.
Mist7676: Discussion and designed a potential banner that wasn't used. Had the idea to use Papyrus text for highlighted words. Wasn't used.
Thomith: Discussion and provided potential formatting choices for the text. They weren't used.
animorpherv1: Discussion and provided potential text-reorganizing. Wasn't used.
ZazieR: Nothing.
TornadoSwirl: Doesn't exist.

[Cybele]

I wanted to address this in another post:

Why select a font that might not be able to be read by most people?

If I played it safe and only used a font that could be guaranteed everyone had, it would have been less appealing. I made a choice to provide the best option I could. Baskerville fits perfectly with the atmosphere we're attempting. However, if I could do it again, I would change things. I would made the OP a series of images with the text on them, therefore allowing us to use the proper text and have it viewable by all. A more refined version of what I had sent you after the discussion we had. I regret not doing so beforehand, but not everything goes according to plan.

It's worth noting that the text-as-image is actually and idea I had before-hand, but it was not implemented for several reasons, after discussing it with kloud. The idea was to use it on a select few words and phrases as an advanced highlight and eye-catcher. You could compare it to a classy-version of using WordArt in a Word document or Powerpoint presentation.

On the topic of Papyrus, there really was no discussion to be had. I will not abide by that being used in my project. It's trite and ugly. No exceptions. Also no Comic Sans.

[Cybele]

Thoughts, anyone?

I'd agree with kloud in the vein that the banner and text choices offer a stark, mood-breaking juxtaposition. It loses me.

[Cybele]

The key here is that it was completely unfitting for our atmosphere. Tell me it wasn't.

[Cybele]

Guys, don't forget your thoughts on how the other team did.
@SK: that crappy meme can't be made any worse.

[Cybele]

Tell me where it says banners have to be short by wide. You hope for ours to be disqualified because it's the only chance you have.

[Cybele]

The rainbow font represents the colorful people represented in the ferris wheel.

Then something like this would have made a better banner template:

[Cybele]

Tell me where it says banners have to be short by wide.

That's what banners are.

Then you should have no problem finding some sort of text to support you. Indisputably.

[Cybele]

Those people are smiling and loving.
And I agree (like I said earlier) that Eucleia has a kickass pic but it's not a banner.

Tell me where it says banners have to be short by wide.

[Cybele]

I'm too lazy to find it, but it's common knowledge.

Something that's common knowledge would be easy to find. Failure to do so makes me think you don't know what you're talking about.
If you're going to make a claim, try backing it up. Or else it means shit.

[Cybele]

While I search, go find me something that says banners can be any size.

A heraldic banner, also called banner of arms, displays the basic coat of arms only: i.e. it contains the design usually displayed on the shield and omits the crest, helmet or coronet, mantling, supporters, motto or any other elements associated with the coat of arms (for further details of these elements, see heraldry).
A heraldic banner is usually square or rectangular.

First one (the image) has to deal with web banners, specifically. The second one has more to do with traditional banners. I can find more, including examples.

[Cybele]

That doesn't say anything about sizes.
K so I just looked. The only banner sizes that are longer than they are wide are for skyscrapers.

So you just tell us anecdotal evidence? Where's a single link?

[Cybele]

Simple fact is there is no reason for my team's banner to be invalid. If you want to continue to say so, show me definitive evidence.
I'll refute it.

[Cybele]

Cybele: btw, this post was a real, sincere suggestion:
Cybele: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p3352176
Cybele: it would have had great ironic echoes
Cybele: altering the text would be necessary to really push it over the edge
Cybele: hand-holding, equality ferris wheel OF DEATH
Digi Nova: Rainbows and murder connect well for me
Cybele: it would have beat ours out of the water

[Cybele]

How long until the winner is announced and the boardroom commences?

[Cybele]

I think both submissions suck.

I'm curious to see how much better you'd fare.

From Blackberry

"

Cybele

, do you see this?"

*walks over to a

window

*

*gets out a marker and writes CYBELE on the window in huge letters*

"This window is for you. You speak to me like that one more time...

You may leave now."

[Cybele]

Cybele

- I would contemplate listening to your team more closey. The fact that your team did not see the final product before it was submitted raises a flag for me about your teamwork capabilities. There are eight people on your team. I think simply erasing your other teammate's work shows me you think they are useless. I actually liked Mist7676's idea of highlighting particular words. I will also reveal that Papyrus is an old favorite of mine. Although I think it would have gone better with the opposing team's 'Creepy' theme. Another thing to keep in mind... if only you and one other person work on the task because you choose to dismiss the others' work, who do you think will be held accountable if your team loses?

The version that was submitted was sent to everyone on my team (except inactives), earlier in the day. There are not eight people on my team; there are seven, and a placeholder. All work provided by other players, barring the Papyrus suggestion was either placed into the QT for consideration, or encouraged to be sent around by PM for discussion. The idea for highlighting words was mine, as can be seen in the QT. It was an idea I later rejected, and explained why in the QT. Papyrus is a terrible font, and fits neither team's entry, thematically. Everyone who was active worked on the task, and I appreciate their efforts, even if not everything they contributed was used.

Balls to you, Blackberry. All of the balls. To you.

[Cybele]

Cybele I didn't get it...

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/3UpL2xUUbpG

Our QT since we aren't gonna use it anymore

You did. It was called 'a little less bleh' in the subject line.

[Cybele]

I

really

want to know what BB is(n't) covering up. But a good apprentice does not qestion the shady dealings of his master!

A mistake.

[Cybele]

Haha, we both have useless TS's.

[Cybele]

Wanna know what we call you down at the station?

[Cybele]

Gonna be V/LA for this challenge. Sorry, team.

[Cybele]

WHAT ARE THE TSTWINS GOING TO DO NEXT

He's the silent motherfucker who never quits from Team Eucleia. The other's from Team Excel, and he don't know the meaning of the word self-control. Just one crazy badass, and he don't take lip from no fool. They can't stand each other, but now, they have one goal in common.
They're the TS Twins, and they FIGHT CRIME.
*cue 80's buddy cop movie soundtrack*

[Cybele]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... FightCrime

[Cybele]

ani is our Project Manager.

[Cybele]

If the challenge doesn't come up soon, I may just be able to compete in it.

[Cybele]

I'm back, too. Did BB hold the task until we returned?
Awww, how sweet.

[Cybele]

Just another BB game...

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 10&t=17701

[Cybele]

BB?