This is all in response to DC; the bulk of it is tangential and could only be answered with explaining my personal preferences. Skip to the very end if you want to get straight to the point:
1)
Dictator
. I'm absolutely fine with hearing any strategy you want to put forward. I suppose you brought this up because I was against your strategy in particular. Your strategy certainly does a whole world of harm more than it does good, if it does any good at all. If whilst flips scum, you are not off the hook. You will still be a huge suspect D3, and you've made D2 a huge headache to analyze. I think outside of the box every day at my job (I write for an advert agency), so I'm not against great, innovative strategies. I'm against people thinking their ideas are amazing while ignoring the huge amount of damage they're doing and not getting any trustworthy results. I'm not a dictator, I'm a general, and the rest of my fellow townies should hold themselves in such high esteem. We'd have a better time of it.
1.1)
Leader
. Yes, I lead people in the direction I think we should be going. I hope any one of you would try your best to lead me in the direction
you
think we should be going. If you have a strong scum read, do your best to convince others while listening to what everyone else has to say, including your target. That was always my idea. I put a case forward on BBmolla and asked if anyone else wanted a go at him, but I also asked (and this has been greatly ignored up to now): "Anyone interested in critiquing my line of questioning/reasoning?" Nobody did. Not a one of you. Three dudes jumped on and D1 was over. So much for discussion.
I don't care about SE and IC being our leaders. I certainly wouldn't let one of them lead
me
around, not with what happened in Newbie 1092. If I have a question about the game, I will ask one of them (and I have). That's where their "leadership" ends.
I'm not letting someone think for themselves? Show me where I've turned down a good case or good pressure on someone. Show me any evidence at all that I'm making the town follow one person. You can't say such things without examples, especially when they're so obviously lies. I've been a part of developing a case on BBmolla, you, and IAI, and small cases on whilst and cavjj. And I apologize for being wrong about BBmolla, but townies get lynched all the time, and you need to accept that. Five people agreed he was scummy enough to vote for, and cavjj and possibly you thought he was scummy enough to be lynched. Or you're scum.
1.2)
One Ideology
. I'm not unaccepting of new ideas and strategies. I'll listen to anything, evaluate it, and tell you whether it's shit or not, honestly. Your strategy was shit and I'm not the only one who explained why. Everything you do in this game is either protown or antitown, and it's pretty clear which a certain action is if you would think about it. Now that you are acting a bit more protown, you're getting results. How does it feel?
I called your citing of that other game irrelevant because you said the biggest boon to your strategy was that it helps in ties. We don't have ties in this game. The conversation about ties certainly was, and still is, irrelevant.
I did ask you to cite your sources first and foremost, if I recall correctly. After a while without citing, I started calling your stories nonsense. Also, your interpretation of what happened in the games you cited when you finally cited them is a bit different from how I think the rest of us would interpret it.
I cannot play like a dictator in a game where everyone has a vote. This is unalterably a democratic game. Did I strip you of your vote? Am I forcing people to vote one way or another? No. I thought this was always evident. Maybe the BBmolla mislynch was a wake-up call to you, as I hope it was, to realize that you shouldn't stake your vote on someone else's case without thinking about it first. The thing about democracy is that it isn't just about votes, it's about having a voice. The smallest minority has the right to make their case to the populous. It had better be a good one.
2)
Ignoring your own previous deductions
. Opinions change over time. Appearing confident is an important part of adding pressure. A statement so self-assured and intuitive like "
lol, looks like we have our scumteam
" is going to dismantle a scumteam more than "
Well, here are all the reasons my previous case doesn't work anymore. I admit its shortcomings could apply to any case I make in the future. That said, my next suspicion is that these two gentlemen are a scumteam
."
It's always my strategy to pressure and target players who are here to answer for themselves. If I'm presented with two scummy players (let's hypothetically call them "IAI" and "DC") and IAI decides one day he's going to have a life outside of the mafia game, then I am going to put all of my resources into scumhunting DC. Otherwise, what am I supposed to do? Keep talking to IAI all day and let DC just sit there silent at his computer? Nah.
3)
Playing extremely protown and jumping on every little thing
. I play as protown as possible and you should too. That's my stance, and I'm sticking with it. I obviously can't cover everything because I'm not a superhero, but I'm not concerned about whether or not I make you look scummy by not leaving anything for you to say.
You're
concerned about whether or not you look scummy, which is scummy. Someone has to say protown things, and I have no life or try not to, so if I'm around and there's something protown to be done, I'm going to do it. I expect every townie to feel the same way, or have a good reason for not feeling the same way. I can imagine such reasons. Yours aren't particularly convincing.
4)
Doing what is wrong and make it appear protown
. "Wrong" is subjective in this case. Don't believe everything you read.
5)
Publicly saying someone is town
. I reserve the right to make and change my opinions on people whenever I want. In fact, I'm less confident that dicknose is town now than I was before. He makes good points clearly and with purpose, but he's been tunneling you all day. Maybe it's because you're so damn scummy, but he's due for an evaluation. Me saying dicknose seems town isn't going to get him killed, and if it does, well, sorry, someone is going to die anyway. I've often wondered what the point is in saying someone seems town. I believe it has to do with honesty and developing a town consciousness. If we all have a good opinion of a player, it will allow that player to continue being helpful and protown. I don't see how calling someone is town is more or less harmful than calling someone scum, really.
I'm not interested in discussing these points further since a lot of them seem tangential. In fact, I have only one request for you, DC:
Please go back through each of the seven points you made about me and explain why a townie wouldn't do those things and why scum would.
If you happen to make any good points, I will respond in kind. Otherwise, I'm just not seeing how any of this looks truly scummy.
(on that note, please let me know if there are any discrepancies!)[/list]
