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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:51 pm

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If we're gonna go down, we're gonna go down nailing the scumteam. We've been collaborating a post for the last 72 hours, but have been preoccupied elsewhere. Give us that long to finish and show our thoughts on the game.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:52 pm

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You're still several votes to lynch. You should have time.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:32 pm

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I'll back a Palisade Lynch as I said yesterday but I don't feel like counting the votes and will wait for Wraith to put one up before I throw my vote down. Guess I was wrong about Taro, but he played like crap. At this point I am sure it's a mafia role-blocker and not a jailer that is doing this. If and only if it is a jailer than he should have claimed by now.
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:47 pm

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Votecount 6.1


Palisade
(4)
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VinegarEater, NobodySpecial, Amrun, xRECKONERx

Amrun
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Palisade

Not Voting
(5)
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DrippingGoofball, bvoigt, PeregrineV, chkballin, Celebloki

Palisade stands at
L-2


With 10 alive it takes
6
to lynch.

Deadline is
August 19, 2011


Shit, considering DGB V/LA I might have to find yet
another
replacement.

NOTICE: Just caught a mistake I made in the counting. There are TEN alive, NOT eleven. It still takes 6 to lynch.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:52 pm

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Why should dgb need to be replaced?
I survived
Tigerpocalypse 2011


Fusion Mafia, ongoing now.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:12 pm

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He's on V/LA until the 20th.
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:15 pm

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Surprise this inn has a MacPower book at the guests' disposal.

Limited Access isn't the same as No Access

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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:49 pm

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Alright, that relieves me of annoyance.

Also, Palisade stands at
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:13 pm

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Alright, I'm ready to hammer, Anyone want me to wait for his excellent scumteam post?
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:26 pm

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Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing it. I don't expect much brilliant insight, but we'll never know what it was unless we see it first.
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:51 pm

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This is not our full wall, but it's a part of the wall which I think Almond wouldn't mind me posting now rather than later with the rest of the wall:


First off. No talk about only four scum and having one remaining. This game had 22 players. And even if two of the town PR claims were scum fakeclaiming, that's still a lot of town power against such a small scumteam. (Even with a scum RB all-but confirmed.) We have at least five, if not six. Since we're a vig, not a SK, we're assuming six. (It'd be five if there was a SK. But since we know there isn't a SK, it has to be six.)

Since there's ten alive, that means 3/10 are scum. Meaning with you lynching the vig today, tomorrow will be 3/8 scum, which is mislynch-and-lose (mylo). In other words, you'll be past the NS threshhold. In other words, you'll have lost your last chance to test NS.
Today is the day before effective lylo
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If you lynch us today, the town has run out of ways to test NS. In other words, the town will have to either trust him or lynch him, with the results determining the game.
If NS isn't lynched today, we can't test his alignment.


Whereas if you lynch NS today, then we can vig someone tonight. Assuming we're not blocked, we bring the game to odd numbers rather than even, we have NS's results confirmed, and we can go into lylo.

So, we'll be making two scumlists--one where NS is town, and the other where NS is scum. This will double the workload, but ensure we cover our bases.

Of course, this is all assuming the town is smart enough to realize that we shouldn't be lynched today, which I sincerely doubt given the moronic play thusfar. (Really, a Fourseen lynch?!? THE GUY WAS OBV-TOWN! And leaving us at L-1 when we're building a case rather than unvoting to ensure no premature hammer. In a lynch-happy town which is prone to hammering randomly.)


VOTE: Nobody Special. As mentioned, we're personally thinking that an NS lynch today gives the greatest chance of a town victory.

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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:56 pm

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That's actually a good point.
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:40 pm

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I can't really comment, because I personally suck at balance. In the event we don't lynch me, I'm keeping my vote on Palisade.
....what?



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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:19 am

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I am asking to be replaced everywhere else but this game is almost done and it's gotten boatloads of replacements so I'll have mercy.

Scum should NK me for mercy.

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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:07 am

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Let's see. I really don't think we would have a 6-man mafia team, so I'm going to assume 5 scum. If we lynch Palisade today, and he does flip town, that leaves us at 2:6 with the scum NK. So we could still lynch NS tomorrow. Right?
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:33 am

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I just recounted. Bvoigt is right.
VOTE: Palisade
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:19 am

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Also,
Palisade wrote:we have NS's results confirmed

reeks of inside setup knowledge

Palisade doesn't live another day, lynch him with fucking fire. Right now.
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:30 am

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And now, I return to my internetless hibernation.

For the forseeable future (as in, until internet is hooked up at my new house), I will only have access during work hours. Don't expect evening/afternoon activity from me.
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:34 am

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Palisade was cleared by NS, who is the cop, unless we think Palisade is babyface SK.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:43 am

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Every needs to unvote, and we need to figure this out.
My top suspects right now are Amrun (mostly becasue of Para, so this is the weakest of the three), chkballin (for the same reasons as before), and bvoigt (still no read on him after 6 days. Somethings up there).

So, much more discussion before lynching. Please everyone unvote and use the day wisely.
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:44 am

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PeregrineV wrote:Palisade was cleared by NS, who is the cop, unless we think Palisade is babyface SK.

Or Godfather.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:48 am

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Nobody Special wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:Palisade was cleared by NS, who is the cop, unless we think Palisade is babyface SK.

Or Godfather.


Well, unless he's taking credit for someone else's kills, that part of his ability is confirmed. But I do think he's a SK, although I see no need to rush the day quite yet.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:59 am

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Peregrine, what do you actually want to discuss?
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:51 am

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Specifically, I want to avoid another mislynch like yesterday. I can't remember the case, but it seems like we have enough information to analyze votes, review living players and dead player interactions, and actually lynch scum.

We have claims. We have claims of night actions. That should also provide us info.

How many scum are left? Do they have a GF? Do we have a SK? Do they show town when investigated? How close are we to lylo or town win?

I would like to discuss this before rapidly lynching..well, anyone.
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:53 am

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yes we have a SK, his name is Palisade and you're stalling his lynch

You're probably town though
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