Substrike22 wrote:Quote 1) Personal survival is unimportant to any town role unless they're a PR and/or a survivor. Since I very much doubt the latter, and the former has been claimed by bobsnox, I find it suspect that your primary motivation for not dying was simply survival.
2) Bit of rolefishing combined with the suggestion for a massclaim on day 1. Also I would not trade a cop for a scum on d1.
3) "Hey I really dislike your style of play which I would normally find scummy but I know you're not scum because I'm scum and I know my team and you're not on it. I really really hope I'm right about that."
1) Just because bobsnox claimed a power role doesn't mean he is one, also, just because there is one power role in the game does not mean that there is ONLY one. I'm not counter claiming, I'm not claiming a PR or survivor, I'm claiming that I want very hard not to die. I am fully capable of taking my death with grace, I have learned reasons not to be emo and hammer myself, and I would die if it wins us the game. However, I want very much Not To Die.
2) I did no rolefishing. Where's the rolefishing? I suggested that in THAT game, the OPEN one with all UNIQUE ROLES that massclaiming was an excellent town idea. In this one where we have likely more than one of some roles, Massclaiming would not be great. What you think is "suggesting massclaiming" is me giving a little bit of background. The arguments against massclaiming in that game were that "Oh, but if scum claims cop and our cop counter claims, then we might lose our cop! D:" And the reply is that "Yeah, we MIGHT lose our cop, except that we'd catch a Mafia and if we lynch the right one our Doc could protect the realcop at night!"
In this case, how many mafia do we have? Two? Three? Even so, cutting down the mafia by 33% in exchange for one power role is not bad.
Substrike22 wrote:Furthermore how the hell are we gaining a confirmed scum in exchange for Bob's claim 2 pages ago? As far as I can tell he didn't investigate anyone on N0 and I missed the jump there.
ALSO, the way we could catch a confscum this way if is somepony counter claims bobsnox. Then we'd lynch either the CC cop or bobsnox, and they would either be a cop or scum. If we lynch the cop, we lynch the confirmed scum the next day. If we lynch the scum, we protect the cop during the night, forcing the Mafia to use their NK on somepony else.
I thought of a way that might not work in this game, and will bring it up in
a second
now. I'll just keep it organized by #: It may not work in this game because it is not an open game, and ther may be more than one cop. However, I will stress that in THAT game, where ALL THE ROLES ARE UNIQUE and there is ONLY ONE COP, this tactic works perfectly.
3) I Do find his play style scummy-- or rather, I find it clean, and "smart" and it pisses me off and I don't like it. I want it to not be scummy because if he's scum I'll never catch him. I'll ISO him at somepoint maybe, and see if I can find scum tells or something in it, but My real problem with him is that he looks too good and it is making my gut ache.
[preedit]: Personal survival beyond Day 1 as town is a personal goal.
