Starcraft Mafia Mini 1210 (Over)

[killerjester]

Ah, nvm about that last bit. I got ninja'd

[Morthas]

Ah, nvm about that last bit. I got ninja'd

Silly you.

[killerjester]

*sitcom audience laughs*

[Stels]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

That's crap reason to vote someone while there are 2 very strong wagons going on atm.

FoS Stels

Maybe someone should check their role pm.
God I hate themes I know nothing about.
Your FoS means nothing. Just a measure to pre-vote someone if wagons change.
I was a part of the rewq455 wagon, yet that's not moving anywhere atm now, is it?
UNVOTE: Vifam

[killerjester]

So uhh, prods right?

[kiwieagle]

back

gonna reaf

[kiwieagle]

read*

[kiwieagle]

I am slowly becoming a fan of Psyche, this is way stronger than anything we got on rewq

I've already responded to all points in Psyche's case, so vote me if you find it convincing. I have nothing else to say. I have a feeling I'm getting lynched today anyway.

This post, right after Psyche's case on him is especially scummy.
I find saying ''I have a feeling I'm getting lynched today anyway" Without saying anything beforehand scummy since as town you'd want to help town as much as possible before the mislynch (From his POV) and not act as if you don't care, the fact that his activity has dropped astoundingly after that is also interesting.
VOTE: gbevil

unvote

VOTE: Gbevil

If no one likes the Vifam case, then on to my second suspect.
Eagles eat kiwis

wtf? This post is "Oh can't lynch a, so let's go lynch b". Wagonjumping much? ISO TIIIIIIIMEEEE~~~~

FoS Kiwi

You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?

Here is my full claim:

Name: Fenix (he is in the first game and brood wars which i havent played so anything i can tell you flavor-wise is from a wiki. He is protoss so cannot be the leader of the raiders.)

Ability: After death I can cast One vote at any point later in the game, and then I can also remove it. After I looked over the wiki I saw that after he dies he is made into a Dragoon so he can continue fighting. This is the only thing I've read about him that works with this power flavor-wise

Now why as scum would you claim with a Beyond the grave ability?

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

That's crap reason to vote someone while there are 2 very strong wagons going on atm.

FoS Stels

Whats wrong with voting scum?

[Vifam]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

Watcher and Lookout are the same thing.



How is it over justification when they are SYNONYMS.

[Psyche]

Hey, guys! I was this close to losing you - my internet access has been impeded by a higher power.

I've already read what I missed, but I need to check my role pm, and starcraft wiki, I spose, for obvious reasons before I make some mistake.

Name claiming phases are always so interesting! They remind me of elementary school logic puzzles...

[Stels]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

Watcher and Lookout are the same thing.



How is it over justification when they are SYNONYMS.

Why did you not just simply state Watcher? It's a common role in mafia that I'm sure everyone knows about. Just like you added your role to a name claim, you also added unnecessary parts to your role. It just seems kinda weird. So, even if they are synonyms, you only need one of them, not two...

[Psyche]

I had some nice ideas regarding Newman and rewq's claim because of the extraordinary nature of my role, but going beyond a cursory read, I see that both are inadequate. Which I'lll show soon enough.

Hm...how to start off? Oh, right - name claim.

I am Tychus Findlay of Raynor's Raiders.

But my role name is arbitrarily mispelled in my pm. This might've been useful for testing Newman, since he would learn the mispelled name I've yet to disclose, but wiki says the Raiders are terran. Too bad.

Still, the mispelling should help in other role confirmations that involve abilities/descriptions that reveal my incorrect-but-true name.

Also, having my role, I am cognizant of the irrelevant, yet useful, mark that all of us Raiders have. Which should help prove myself, and/or others, in terms of roles, at least. If rewq claimed to be a raider, as I first superficially supposed, then I could now call him a lie.

*

Rewq is still scummy scum.

His role claim doesn't show any protown capacity or evidence, and neither does his play. And a protoss race confirm is also useless in determining his alliance, as the mod pointed out.

His role is more fitting for the scum team hoping to tip LYLO later in the game than the town that would rather dead players stay dead and not pollute the vote count with another uninformed bandwagon.

I believe his claim, except that he's Town. I also believe the guy who vouched for rewq based on his "confirmable (through newman) role" is scummy, and he'll be pointed out soon.

Until then,

unvote; vote rewq

Though, after previewing, I think we should discuss with circumspection the utility of lynching such a harmful role, or, more importantly, the balance of a game with that ability in scum hands - so to consider the validity of a subsequent lynch.

Also, this name claiming thing is a bad idea. Especially if flavor supposedly sometimes gives hint of ability.

[Psyche]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

Watcher and Lookout are the same thing.



How is it over justification when they are SYNONYMS.

Why did you not just simply state Watcher? It's a common role in mafia that I'm sure everyone knows about. Just like you added your role to a name claim, you also added unnecessary parts to your role. It just seems kinda weird. So, even if they are synonyms, you only need one of them, not two...

Are you serious? Is this supposed to become a basis for a vote?

[Psyche]

Also, a convenient table describing role name claims aptly titled "Convenient Table Describing Role Name Claims" would really be convenient.

I'd make it myself, but this mobile browser is crippling.

[Morthas]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

That's crap reason to vote someone while there are 2 very strong wagons going on atm.

FoS Stels

Maybe someone should check their role pm.
God I hate themes I know nothing about.
Your FoS means nothing. Just

a measure to pre-vote someone if wagons change.

I was a part of the rewq455 wagon, yet that's not moving anywhere atm now, is it?
UNVOTE: Vifam

That's exactly why it's NOT useless.
Why did you unvote her? Nothing has changed. Regardless if it was a good reason to vote her initially, it's still scummy to unvote without an explanation.

[Espeonage]

Just got noobs in LoL so I have to wait 20 minutes at least before they forfeit after me leaving. (Seriously. They wanted Jax mid and bot to be the solo lane while WW was jungling. Idiots)

I'm not going to reread, that always ends in a bunch of IIoA. Instead I will look at current state of play. See who needs to be looked at and just comment and maybe iso.

[Espeonage]

Unvote

I kept my vote on you as a test, to see how you would react.

You passed.

bullshit

Doesn't change that you're town just from that page.

[Espeonage]

Who has a bigger wagon out of Vifam and rewq?

I'll vote for whichever one has more votes.

[Vifam]

UNVOTE: rewq455
I am...
(1) Edmund Duke
(2) Terran

I'm Overload, I basically work as a town watcher/lookout.

No one asked for an ability claim... Over-justification much? Plus, the second part of your role "Lookout" doesn't quite make sense.
Yes I know what a watcher does, but giving two definitions to your ability is just... over-justifying.
VOTE: Vifam

Watcher and Lookout are the same thing.



How is it over justification when they are SYNONYMS.

Why did you not just simply state Watcher? It's a common role in mafia that I'm sure everyone knows about. Just like you added your role to a name claim, you also added unnecessary parts to your role. It just seems kinda weird. So, even if they are synonyms, you only need one of them, not two...

Does it matter? Seriously I don't know what the hell you're getting at, everyone could see that they meant the same thing.


You're completely grasping at straws.

[Espeonage]

Vote: rewq

[Vifam]

Who has a bigger wagon out of Vifam and rewq?

I'll vote for whichever one has more votes.

Is that going to be your play all game? Your ISO is just giving me lots of blatant sheeping I don't think scum would have the balls to do.


But still.

[Espeonage]

I have an iso that you can get stuff from? Damn you're good at reading between the lines.

And you have obviously never played with me before.

[Vifam]

I have an iso that you can get stuff from? Damn you're good at reading between the lines.

And you have obviously never played with me before.

I have not, and I'm too lazy to check if you're like this every game.

[Espeonage]

I'll help. Let me do my own thing for a bit. I'll let you know if there is anything going on my head that needs to be shared. I'll pull an all-nighter on the weekend. I'm more talkative when I'm tired.

And tbh, this game sucks pretty bad. As far as I can tell you guys are getting caught up in stuff that doesn't matter. I see two separate arguments about wording of posts which is stupid.

[kiwieagle]

Failure to explain properly on your part doesn't constitute my "misrepping". It sounded like you stated your PM didn't mention Protoss anywhere.

The way you explained it now makes more sense. As in my PM it stated I was Selendis (town) <-- just like that. And your role makes more sense too when the Protoss name thing is a conditional modifier instead of the entire power.

UNVOTE:

Blatant backtracking


His explanation is real bad.

If he TRUST protoss THEN HOW ELSE IS THE PM GONNA MENTION IT?