Open 320- Tit for Tat: Game Over!

[StefanB]

Actually this one is pretty easy.
If no one counterclaims, Sleepy is 100% town and that makes Magua scum. (or the real rolecop is very stupid)
Waiting on replyes from verydark and MoI, than the whole think should be clear and hopfully we can lynch one scum.

[verydark]

You haven't even claimed Stefan...

I'm a VT

Which means there are NO more VT's, if Magua is telling the truth.

I wish I would have pushed harder for Lady, because I'm pretty sure she's scum now.

I don't necessarily believe Sleepy's claim, a few more people need to claim, and that's a PR worth actually not claiming...just yet.

[Magua]

verydark, no offense intended here, but: if you're the rolecop, you have to counterclaim. It does mean you'll die, but if I get lynched the game is over anyways, so.

A lot of new players can get coy with an investigative role claim. I need to make sure that's not happening here.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hmmm

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Mod: Do scum have daytalk in this game?

No.

[StefanB]

Verydark: I haven't claimed because we didn't even start the massclaim.

Does a Sleepy/Verydark scumteam make any sense? Probably not. If that was very hard distancing.

[Magua]

ITT, reading the OP is tech:

You can speak only at night with your partners in the following quicktopic:<URL link here>.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Verydark: I haven't claimed because we didn't even start the massclaim.

Does a Sleepy/Verydark scumteam make any sense? Probably not. If that was very hard distancing.

How about VeryDark/Magua?

That last post of Magua's is pure coaching, and without a Daytalk for scum...

P-Edit: I was just making a point, Magua.

[Magua]

P-Edit: I was just making a point, Magua.

I understood what point you're trying to make.

My only question is whether your question to the mod was genuine (in which case, why did you not read the OP?), or whether it was posturing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

P-Edit: I was just making a point, Magua.

I understood what point you're trying to make.

My only question is whether your question to the mod was genuine (in which case, why did you not read the OP?), or whether it was posturing.

Oh, it was neither.

The attempt was so that EVERYONE can PLAINLY see what I see.

[MagnaofIllusion]

First things first –

VOTE: Sleepy

You are confirmed scum since you have claimed my role.

I’m the Role-cop

.

Night 1 and I submitted cop actions on verydark and have been role-blocked each Night. Given my vocal pressure towards verydark I’m not surprised about that outcome. I’m more or less convinced he’s scum with Sleepy but after Victorian Vampire Mafia I operate by a simple rule – Never vote outside a claim you know to be fake. My vote isn’t moving today.

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Everyone who hasn’t claimed should do so and do so truthfully. There is no advantage for the Back-up Jailkeeper to claim VT. In fact it is a complete disadvantage to Town.

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Did you see the part where I said I had to clarify something with Gamma? I wanted to make sure that you weren't the town-aligned backup.

If you really were the Rolecop you should have known that each role was explicitly stated in Post 2 and had an eye on it when you received your results.

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Magna's first two posts read as scummy to me (they both looked strange, overcompensatory in a way). I'm having difficulty really reading anything else of his for alignment. Shift had him as a weak townread, I have him as somewhat scummy. His scumhunting/posting in general look genuine, but he's the kind of player who will look similarly in that respect as town and scum, and I don't see anything in particular that makes me strongly feel that he's town. From someone like magna, that in and of itself is probably enough to give me some suspicion.

1. Please elaborate more than a vague ‘overcompensatory’ and ‘strange’ on what in my first two posts is scummy.
2. What, in your estimation, makes someone Town if not genuine scum-hunting. I’m very curious.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Shit... shit shit shit.

So really... with Magua... it's Magua/Magna/VeryDark

And with Sleepy... I can't see a scum team....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What scum team.. Sleepy/Luxury/Stephan?

LOL NO.

Vote: Magua

[Luxury]

Stop claiming until sleepykrew outs his report from night one.

Magna: it's difficult to elaborate, since it is mostly a vague feeling about the posts. The second line of your first post and the entirety of your second post just read as somewhat contrived. You're a good enough player to fake genuine scumhunting to a large extent, so it is more difficult to read you. I also have a tendency to get paranoid when reading good players. There are other things that can make someone town - not just genuine scumhunting, but genuine pro-town efforts in general to push, lead, etc. I just haven't seen anything in your iso that convinced me that you were town, that is, that i felt strongly would come from town over scum.

[Luxury]

(implosion, by the way)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Luxury, it's time to wagon to victory.

It's Magua, guaranteed.

[Luxury]

That last post of Magua's is pure coaching, and without a Daytalk for scum...

ITT LLD says what we were probably all thinking.

Magua: please provide an example of a game where a new player was "coy" with an investigative role claim. I've

never

seen or heard that, and it doesn't make sense.

pedit: maybe. Probably, in fact. But SK needs to out his n1 report.

-implosion

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Luxury, it's Magua/Magna together in some facet.

They're either both town or both scum.

So my original reads were either ENTIRELY OFF, or I was right about my voting block.

However, if I was right about the voting block, it's SleepyKrew scum (which is something I thought originally) but with who?

2/3 of You,Stephan and Verydark.

Well, you're town.

And Stephan is town.

So um, THAT DOESN'T WORK.

Leads me to believe SleepyKrew is town, and thus Magua/Magna are SCUM.

Which means we need a third scum buddy.

Who's left? Sleepy's town, Stephan's town, You're town.

Magua's Scum, Magna's scum. I'm obviously town to myself.

That's 6/7 players. Only 1 remains.

Verydark.

The scum team is Magua/Magna/Verydark.

GG. Let's wrap this up and go home.

[Magua]

The attempt was so that EVERYONE can PLAINLY see what I see.

No, if it was for you to make sure that it was so that everyone could plainly see, you would've stepped up and said it. You phrased it as a question to the mod, already knowing the answer, to make it appear more legitimate.

Also:

LLD: Magua is coaching verydark to claim.
Magna: I claim rolecop.
LLD: Magua, Magna, verydark scumteam.

Even though that makes absolutely no sense.

What scum team.. Sleepy/Luxury/Stephan?

Sleepy, Lady Lambdadelta, probably Luxury as the third

Magua: please provide an example of a game where a new player was "coy" with an investigative role claim. I've never seen or heard that, and it doesn't make sense.

There are hundreds of examples on EM where a new player doesn't cc a cop or tracker claim for fear of getting NK'ed. Both you and Shift are *well* aware of this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The attempt was so that EVERYONE can PLAINLY see what I see.

No, if it was for you to make sure that it was so that everyone could plainly see, you would've stepped up and said it. You phrased it as a question to the mod, already knowing the answer, to make it appear more legitimate.

Also:

LLD: Magua is coaching verydark to claim.
Magna: I claim rolecop.
LLD: Magua, Magna, verydark scumteam.

Even though that makes absolutely no sense.

What scum team.. Sleepy/Luxury/Stephan?

Sleepy, Lady Lambdadelta, probably Luxury as the third

Magua: please provide an example of a game where a new player was "coy" with an investigative role claim. I've never seen or heard that, and it doesn't make sense.

There are hundreds of examples on EM where a new player doesn't cc a cop or tracker claim for fear of getting NK'ed. Both you and Shift are *well* aware of this.

It makes PERFECT sense.

You tried to get VeryDark to bail you out.

He didn't get the hint. But MAGNA did.

So Magna claimed it, because VeryDark has already claimed VT.

This is GG.

[MagnaofIllusion]

And LLD claims scum.

Nice ... but that makes me completely re-think Verydark.

Good job on tying yourselves so closely together that I would not expect you to be partners. Cudos.

Also nice move on suggesting the voting block. I didn't think as scum you would make that move. Especially after how badly it worked out for scum in Buffy Mafia.

[Luxury]

There are hundreds of examples on EM where a new player doesn't cc a cop or tracker claim for fear of getting NK'ed. Both you and Shift are *well* aware of this.

Link to one, please. I've never seen that to my memory. The closest I've seen was a f11 newbie game where the scum claimed an unspecified power role, and neither me (doctor) nor the cop counterclaimed. I have NEVER seen what you are talking about to my memory.

-implosion

[Luxury]

Oh. EM. This is not EM. This is MS, lol. The people on here are COMPETENT.

-implosion

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And LLD claims scum.

Nice ...

but that makes me completely re-think Verydark.

Good job on tying yourselves so closely together that I would not expect you to be partners. Cudos.

Also nice move on suggesting the voting block. I didn't think as scum you would make that move. Especially after how badly it worked out for scum in Buffy Mafia.

Oh look at this cheeky ass scum posting.

He knows he's caught, so he's going full on "Defend the Scum team" mode.

He's already tasting the victory.

Town needs to RIP THIS VICTORY OUT FROM UNDER HIS NOSE.

Town:

Sleepy
LLD
Stephan
Luxury

These four people should be lynching Magua today. Magna tomorrow, and then VeryDark.

[Luxury]

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CLAIM YOUR N1 REPORT, SLEEPYKREW. There's a good chance you're dying tonight if you're real and we lynch magua.