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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:04 pm

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Smoking = Empking

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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:22 pm

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If its whats going to happen it is what it is.

Don't be shocked and awed when I'm town. Especially the meta considering I was under skirts as it were this game on purpose.
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:50 pm

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Junox wrote:It was primarily me (Juls) that pulled the trigger but Rhinox had his suspicions too.

1) last game I played with spyrex he was so town it made your teeth hurt. This game he has been planted firmly in Nullville.
2) I could see spyrex leaving me alive because he would think I would never target him and he could just throw this scenario out of a role block if I ever did.
3) We had misgivings about the timing of the smoking jump. It looked like a bus.

I was v/la for most of the last day but rhinox tended to think Dana was town based on the appearance of general confusion over what empking would flip.


I dont necessarily see dana being genuinely confused, but this does go against the idea that i have that scum would bus back to back. assuming spy is scum.

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Empking(6)
- Gammagooey, Neruz, inHimshallibe, MagnaofIllusion, SpyreX, danakillsu
Neruz(1)
- Empking

Not Voting(3)
- Junox, Sathoris, LobsterCatapult

With 10 alive, it is 6 to lynch.


im wondering at this juncture if both scum would be bussing empking. I'm leaning towards yes, (if not then its robochopper)

of the people on the wagon, i have a slight town read on gamma, slight town on inhim, neruz to me is most likely town due to empking. this leaves me to think that scum could be dana. your point of perhaps scum leaving you alive/unrbed because they thought you wouldnt target one of them makes me paranoid (like perhaps gamma) although im not entirely sure about this considering he did target empking substancially about me and inhim, which seems legitimate.

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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:11 pm

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SpyreX wrote:If its whats going to happen it is what it is.

Don't be shocked and awed when I'm town. Especially the meta considering I was under skirts as it were this game on purpose.


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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:15 pm

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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:31 pm

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Wups, it appears i was accidentally lurking.

I'm just not seeing SpyreX scum, i've ISOed him twice now and both times i've come away with a mildly town feeling. The only really 'scummy' post SpyreX has made that i can see is the one Robocopter just quoted, and i could easily see that as frustrated town.

Junox saying 'scum would leave me alive because they'd think i wouldn't target them' is absurd, not only is it WIFOM of the purest form, but it's utterly unsupported. If scum have a roleblocker i could see them leaving Junox alive because he kills the townies he identifies wheras if he hits scum he still has to get them lynched and if there's a roleblocker in play then scum can muddy the waters alot, which is always a good thing. But suggesting that he is alive because of some double-guessing stunt is stupid.

Up until recently, i would have been staunch about Junox being town, but his actions this day have been slowly getting less and less town and i'm beginning to wonder if this isn't an elaborate ruse by scum to get a mislynch. On the one hand, Junox's response to the mass RB looked like pure undiluted town, on the other if he is scum it's possible he thought he'd hit an SK\Cult and wanted to get said SK\Cult lynched for town points.

I do not like this situation right now, not one bit.
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:45 pm

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Junox is still town. Don't lose sight of that.

That's a big part of WHY this was done now.

Considering Robo's lamentations about me not having scum reads is just as much moonbeams as LC's logic I'm not sure what more you're looking for.
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:49 pm

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The odds still favour Junox town, but his persistence on blindly following his investikill unnerves me a lot. It feels like scum trying to ride a mislynch through on town cred rather than town who thinks he's found scum. I would have expected town to think more about the obvious limitations of their power and especially to not sit there dumbly and go 'what?' when those limitations are pointed out. Junox's reaction to my not just blindly sheeping SpyreX and his play following that looks like scum who thought he was on a roll and was surprised that everyone didn't just follow him without question.

I dunno, maybe i'm just being overparanoid, but something about this does not smell right at all.
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:53 pm

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You guys.

Junox has basically claimed a guilty investigation on SpyreX. Yes it's possible that it's been messed with but there's been nothing pointing to a roleblocker in the game before now. Now if you believe that Spy is town strongly enough to ignore that guilty then explain who you think is scum instead and I'll at least listen to what you have to say.

But this wanking around with thinking Spy is town but not voting ANYONE is absolute garbage. Take a stance about who you want lynched, change your mind later if need be. Saying that Spy is town but not giving an alternative lynch is going to do absolutely nothing while everyone sits around posturing and assuming Spy gets lynched REGARDLESS of whether you're right or wrong then tomorrow will consist of deciding who to deal between all you lovelies who decided that it would be great to give an opinion on the guy that was about to be lynched but leave all their options open for everyone else that would still be there tomorrow.

Yes I know dana still hasn't posted because he's V/LA but everyone else has and I personally think there's enough in everyone's iso here to be able to take a stance on them and decide on whether you want them dead more or less than SpyreX. If you REALLY want dana to get here before deciding then throw a vote on him to encourage him to post a bit more once he sees it after coming back from vacation and there can be spanish-style interrogations when he gets back.
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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:35 am

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hmm

I've thought about this, and i think given the claims and the number of players still in the game, a SpyreX lynch is the way to go. I've read his ISO nearly twice now and i just keep coming away null, but we do have what basically amounts to a claimed cop investigation, the fact that said cop is still alive does worry me however, but i'm not going anywhere paralyzed like this.

VOTE: SpyreX

I'm pretty sure that's L-1.
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:36 am

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Actually, changed my mind, i'd rather lynch Robocopter today.

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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:15 am

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oh, i thought he was already at L-1... :?

i feel comfortable with this.

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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:08 am

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neruz 1505 wrote:I'm just not seeing SpyreX scum, i've ISOed him twice now and both times i've come away with a mildly town feeling.


neruz 1510 wrote:I've read his ISO nearly twice now and i just keep coming away null,


:?


neruz wrote:Actually, changed my mind, i'd rather lynch Robocopter today.
uh... why? Up until right now, you haven't even mentioned Robo today other than to say he pointed out something scummy about spy. Actually, when I search through your iso, you haven't expressed any issues with Robo or Sath all game.

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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:32 am

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Junox wrote:
neruz 1505 wrote:I'm just not seeing SpyreX scum, i've ISOed him twice now and both times i've come away with a mildly town feeling.


neruz 1510 wrote:I've read his ISO nearly twice now and i just keep coming away null,


:?


I ISOed him two more times and came away with a null read and a mildly town feeling. Yes, i've ISOed him four times now. (Well three and a bit.)

I've been ignoring Robocopter because of his post restriction; it occured to me as i voted SpyreX that going into LyLo with a player with a PR that makes me unable to get any solid read off him was a bad idea.
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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:40 am

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SpyreX wrote:Don't you start on me. :P

I'm always irritated when I get lynched. I'm glad that THIS isn't unrecoverable at least.

Its far more irritating watching Sath and LC (who I think is the illustrious partner after that junk) skate by.

Can you promise me this inHim? Tomorrow will you get Sath lynched for me? Don't let this stupid RB business repeat itself.

Sathoris is on the list.


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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:42 am

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What's the deadline? I'll hammer today.
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:17 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:What's the deadline? I'll hammer today.


Ok seriously what the hell inHim.
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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:28 am

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Oh, still plenty o' time. Hammer can wait.


What's the matter Neruz? I see that you've read SpyreX as null, but that means, well... nothing.
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:42 am

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Neruz wrote:I ISOed him two more times and came away with a null read and a mildly town feeling. Yes, i've ISOed him four times now. (Well three and a bit.)

I've been ignoring Robocopter because of his post restriction; it occured to me as i voted SpyreX that going into LyLo with a player with a PR that makes me unable to get any solid read off him was a bad idea.


So policy lynch is what you're going to lynch on today? Thats your best argument for lynch? How do you know that if spyrex is lynched, tomorrow would be LyLo?

And I don't care how many times you've iso'd spyrex, switching from mildly town to null to voting him to unvoting him for a policy lynch is scummy as hell.
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:47 am

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I would assume there are 2 scum left, given the number of people in the game, a 4 scum team seems most likely.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:59 am

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Neruz wrote:I would assume there are 2 scum left, given the number of people in the game, a 4 scum team seems most likely.


So then you're assuming spyrex is a mislynch? And you voted him anyways?
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:08 am

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I have no idea what wierd logic you used to come to that conclusion.
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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:24 am

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Don't play stupid on me now :roll:
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:05 am

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I'm not playing stupid on you, i have no real scum reads at the moment, therefore at least one, probably two of my reads are incorrect; the conflict between you and SpyreX would indicate one of you is scum. Given that, SpyreX is the better lynch.
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:35 am

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SpyreX wrote:Considering Robo's lamentations about me not having scum reads is just as much moonbeams as LC's logic I'm not sure what more you're looking for.


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I've been ignoring Robocopter because of his post restriction; it occured to me as i voted SpyreX that going into LyLo with a player with a PR that makes me unable to get any solid read off him was a bad idea.


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