Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Yosarian2]

"Simulposting" does not include a gap of three minutes. Try again?

It does when I take a few minutes before I hit submit to double check someone's posting history.

[Zdenek]

Look, I'm an Army Veteran. The details of my role are vague. I don't even know if I die or not when attacked.

I think Cobbler's lynch claimed VTs/me plan is stupid because there is probably little reason for anyone to claim VT/a less useful role.

I'm happy with bvoigt's claim.
Unvote

I need to read a bit before voting, but because of PoE and certain claims, I don't plan on voting outside of

Bunny Lover, Factory Worker [

VT

]
Flameaxe, Dancer/Entertainer [

unclaimed

]
Pops "ooba" Seaton, Junkie [

Watcher

]
Anahito Xvart, Teamster [

VT

]

Uh-huh. Not so stupid now, eh?

That was a co-incidence.

[Yosarian2]

People have to ask why I'm voting NS?

NS claimed the Andrius kill.

Fair enough, that would be a pretty weird choice for a vig.

So what's your theory? Are you suggesting NS is actually mafia/SK/something else? Do you think that the cult killed Andrius night 2? If NS killed Andrius (or at least knew for a fact that no one would counterclaim the kill), then how does that make NS scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

People have to ask why I'm voting NS?

NS claimed the Andrius kill.

Fair enough, that would be a pretty weird choice for a vig.

So what's your theory? Are you suggesting NS is actually mafia/SK/something else? Do you think that the cult killed Andrius night 2? If NS killed Andrius (or at least knew for a fact that no one would counterclaim the kill), then how does that make NS scum?

Theory: NS is a night 1 Recruit, and was used to shoot Andrius Night 2.

[Yosarian2]

Ah. So you think he really is a vig, but is a recruited vig?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ah. So you think he really is a vig, but is a recruited vig?

Occam's Razor. Why would he fake claim a different role than his own?

Of course, your SK theory is possible, but I don't find it to be LIKELY.

[Yosarian2]

Heh. I wasn't actually pushing a SK theory, I was trying to understand your thought process, and how you got from "he claimed a kill I disagreed with" to "he's scum".

The idea of a recruited vig is pretty terrifying. In the last game, the one-shot vigs were unrecruitable but didn't know it; who knows if that's true again this game.

[Zdenek]

Not that I'm in favor of it, but if we're lynching a claimed vig, Battousai is a better lynch than NS. Stories like his killing Andrius over a grudge come from town. Battousai's killings look more like ones that scum would do and try to pass off later as pro-town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Not that I'm in favor of it, but if we're lynching a claimed vig, Battousai is a better lynch than NS. Stories like his killing Andrius over a grudge come from town. Battousai's killings look more like ones that scum would do and try to pass off later as pro-town.

AHAHAHAHAHA no.

[Zdenek]

Not that I'm in favor of it, but if we're lynching a claimed vig, Battousai is a better lynch than NS. Stories like his killing Andrius over a grudge come from town. Battousai's killings look more like ones that scum would do and try to pass off later as pro-town.

AHAHAHAHAHA no.

Why?

[bvoigt]

I think Cobbler's lynch claimed VTs/me plan is stupid because there is probably little reason for anyone to claim VT/a less useful role.

So you're saying that scum would likely fakeclaim a power role?

[Zdenek]

I think Cobbler's lynch claimed VTs/me plan is stupid because there is probably little reason for anyone to claim VT/a less useful role.

So you're saying that scum would likely fakeclaim a power role?

Mostly, I think that they wouldn't fake claim vanilla in this game.

[bvoigt]

But you still find Bunnylover and xvart scummy despite their vanilla claims?

[Zdenek]

But you still find Bunnylover and xvart scummy despite their vanilla claims?

I don't find Bunnylover scummy, at the time I just couldn't find any good reason to exclude her from consideration as cult.
You'll have to wait for me to pass judgement on Xvart.

[Cobblerfone]

I don't find Bunnylover scummy, at the time I just couldn't find any good reason to exclude her from consideration as cult.
You'll have to wait for me to pass judgement on Xvart.

This is more or less my exact thought process. The power roles that seem the most suspect to me though, are you, [Flameaxe], and Tajo. However Amrun has rubbed me as town. Hmm.. if we lynch Flameaxe, then if he's cult it'll pretty much clear you and xvart from today to before. Though, if xvart is cult, then Flameaxe will be cleared, and he's softclaimed to be a PR. I guess I'll stick with xvart then.

@Hero: Do you still not require cult-protection? Do you have any results? I feel we're all at a stalemate here.

[Zdenek]

So Xvart is scummy for *knowing* that Cobblerfone is scum and then using that flip to line up Flameaxe's lynch. Of course Cobbler is probably town, so that implication won't apply, and is really just an attempt by Xvart to distance himself from Flameaxe.

Either of them can go today. Since there is more support for Xvart's lynch, I'll go there for now.

Vote Xvart

[Battousai]

Not that I'm in favor of it, but if we're lynching a claimed vig, Battousai is a better lynch than NS. Stories like his killing Andrius over a grudge come from town. Battousai's killings look more like ones that scum would do and try to pass off later as pro-town.

Wow, lol. I killed people in a pro-town manor, therefore I am scum. NS didn't so that makes him town...


I also disagree with scum not fakeclaiming Vanilla. I mean, with so many PRs out there, it be easier than normal to be caught out in a lie about where you visited and what you did.

[ooba]

When was the first time that the ML-Hero cult masonary was reviled? Which day?

[Zdenek]

Not that I'm in favor of it, but if we're lynching a claimed vig, Battousai is a better lynch than NS. Stories like his killing Andrius over a grudge come from town. Battousai's killings look more like ones that scum would do and try to pass off later as pro-town.

Wow, lol. I killed people in a pro-town manor, therefore I am scum. NS didn't so that makes him town...


I also disagree with scum not fakeclaiming Vanilla. I mean, with so many PRs out there, it be easier than normal to be caught out in a lie about where you visited and what you did.

This is a scummy post. Battousai reacts to the fact that I'd be more suspicious of him than NS, by misinterpreting my post, and completely missing the point of my argument about why he appears scummier than NS. His second point is also terrible because even people claiming vanilla could be caught in a lie about where they went and what they did, unless they were recruited pre-game.

[Herodotus]

When was the first time that the ML-Hero cult masonary was reviled? Which day?

Ludi claimed on Day 3. Part of his claim was that he would be informed if I was recruited.

[Amrun]

Cobber, why am I town?

[Battousai]

Not that I'm in favor of it, but if we're lynching a claimed vig, Battousai is a better lynch than NS. Stories like his killing Andrius over a grudge come from town. Battousai's killings look more like ones that scum would do and try to pass off later as pro-town.

Wow, lol. I killed people in a pro-town manor, therefore I am scum. NS didn't so that makes him town...


I also disagree with scum not fakeclaiming Vanilla. I mean, with so many PRs out there, it be easier than normal to be caught out in a lie about where you visited and what you did.

This is a scummy post. Battousai reacts to the fact that I'd be more suspicious of him than NS, by misinterpreting my post, and completely missing the point of my argument about why he appears scummier than NS. His second point is also terrible because even people claiming vanilla could be caught in a lie about where they went and what they did, unless they were recruited pre-game.

Tell me your point then. All I got out of it was that NS did something anti-town and I did something that was pro-town. I really don't see the difference.

[Bunnylover]

Reading and caught up.
Nothing caught my eye yet.
Basically a prod dodge.

[Flameaxe]

Cobber, why am I town?

This.

and he's softclaimed to be a PR

Assuming you're referring to me....what are you on about?

[Magister Ludi]

ooba, what was the point of that question?

Still haven't isoed bunny, but I notice no one is voting for him, so is there really a pressing need to do so right now.

Cobblerfone immediatly becomes a less interesting lynch because xvart is on it. Not escaping my eye however is that the two other largest bandwagons are on xvart.

Still think xvart is very good lynch.