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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:02 pm

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She constantly wagons (she just goes "oh yeah your right")
She sees me change my vote (to gbevil) and suddenly screams YOUR JOINING A WAGON = YOUR SCUM. IM GONNA ISO YOU (which btw is the ONLY scumhunting she has done the whole game) (oh and she never ISOed me) (oh AND LOL I JUST NOTICED SHE DID THE SAME FUCKING THING)


oh and I have a feeling Stel is bussing her.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:08 pm

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Morthas != girl.

I'd be much happier with a rewq lynch tbh. And I've only read three pages.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:09 pm

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I base peoples gender on there avatar.
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:14 pm

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I base people gender on what they are.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:20 pm

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Read all 13 pages plz.

or atleast Mortha's ISO.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:01 pm

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Isn't rewq scummier? Or also sufficiently scummy? It's only Day 1.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:18 pm

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kiwieagle(grammarfixed) wrote:I base peoples' genders on their avatars.


So that would make you an "it" and Espe a "them". Also, my avatar is basically castrated, so...

Sorry. Anyways, vote for rewq. His defense was "I am Fenix".

But his claimed ability, is again, interesting. If his claim is true, and he is scum, would it be in our interests to lynch him? Could there be a scum beyond-the-grave-voter? Would scum-he lie about his ability in this way?

Well, it would be a decent fakeclaim, I think. Insert thoughts on gambit utility here.

These considerations are the only thing that would give me doubt.

That new Gaga song is interesting. I don't like it, but I know it'll be stuck in my head soon enough. She's losing that idiosyncracy I liked about her. Just another megapop star...digression.

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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:59 pm

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kiwieagle wrote:1)She constantly wagons (she just goes "oh yeah your right")
2)She sees me change my vote (to gbevil) and suddenly screams YOUR JOINING A WAGON = YOUR SCUM. 3) IM GONNA ISO YOU (which btw is the ONLY scumhunting she has done the whole game) 4)(oh and she never ISOed me) 5)(oh AND LOL I JUST NOTICED SHE DID THE SAME FUCKING THING)


oh and I have a feeling Stel is bussing her.

Ignoring your disability on reading genders (My avatar depicts a male + under it, it clearly says ''Gender=Male")
1) Reading my own ISO I have voted Stels, Rewq, Gbevil (in that order)
Stels: My own reasoning, Not even close to a wagon
Rewq: Did my own research, Wagon
Gbevil: Not my own reasoning, Weaker-than-Rewq-Wagon Wagon but still a wagon i guess~.
2) Just reread what I said before... The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.
3) How is that the only scumhunting I did all game? I don't want to be the one who points out my own scumhunting but did you actually read my ISO or are you just full of shit?
4) I did ISO you, that is how I came to conclusions.
5) I don't have anything to say...

I am still willing to say Gbevil still is more scummy than kiwi, rewq, Stels.
Gbevil> Rewq> Kiwi> Stels.
Psyche wrote:But his claimed ability, is again, interesting. If his claim is true, and he is scum, would it be in our interests to lynch him? Could there be a scum beyond-the-grave-voter? Would scum-he lie about his ability in this way?

Well, it would be a decent fakeclaim, I think. Insert thoughts on gambit utility here.

These considerations are the only thing that would give me doubt.

No idea about how bastardly is this game in order to give scum such a deadly/weird power but It's nothing to not vote scum over IMO.


@MOd: Can we get vote counts more often please? The last one was 4 pages ago and it's most certainly outdated.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:23 pm

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Psyche wrote:If his claim is true, and he is scum, would it be in our interests to lynch him? Could there be a scum beyond-the-grave-voter? Would scum-he lie about his ability in this way?

Is that a trick question? Lynching scum is always in our best interest.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:35 pm

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Morthas wrote:
kiwieagle wrote:1)She constantly wagons (she just goes "oh yeah your right")
2)She sees me change my vote (to gbevil) and suddenly screams YOUR JOINING A WAGON = YOUR SCUM. 3) IM GONNA ISO YOU (which btw is the ONLY scumhunting she has done the whole game) 4)(oh and she never ISOed me) 5)(oh AND LOL I JUST NOTICED SHE DID THE SAME FUCKING THING)


oh and I have a feeling Stel is bussing her.

Ignoring your disability on reading genders (My avatar depicts a male + under it, it clearly says ''Gender=Male")
1) Reading my own ISO I have voted Stels, Rewq, Gbevil (in that order)
Stels: My own reasoning, Not even close to a wagon
Rewq: Did my own research, Wagon
Gbevil: Not my own reasoning, Weaker-than-Rewq-Wagon Wagon but still a wagon i guess~.
2) Just reread what I said before... The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.
3) How is that the only scumhunting I did all game? I don't want to be the one who points out my own scumhunting but did you actually read my ISO or are you just full of shit?
4) I did ISO you, that is how I came to conclusions.
5) I don't have anything to say...

I am still willing to say Gbevil still is more scummy than kiwi, rewq, Stels.
Gbevil> Rewq> Kiwi> Stels.
Psyche wrote:But his claimed ability, is again, interesting. If his claim is true, and he is scum, would it be in our interests to lynch him? Could there be a scum beyond-the-grave-voter? Would scum-he lie about his ability in this way?

Well, it would be a decent fakeclaim, I think. Insert thoughts on gambit utility here.

These considerations are the only thing that would give me doubt.

No idea about how bastardly is this game in order to give scum such a deadly/weird power but It's nothing to not vote scum over IMO.


@MOd: Can we get vote counts more often please? The last one was 4 pages ago and it's most certainly outdated.

yeah I usually dont read gender, most people dont mind etc. etc.

1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO

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HellloooNewman wrote:What is there to say? 3 pages full of "answer the question!" "what question?" "you know what question, now answer!" "what fucking question you talking about?" "SCUMZ!!!".

I sufficiently think the start of this game is retarded, and I have lost IQ points for having read it.

Better?

Excusing yourself from posting?
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Morthas wrote:I failed to mention this but i sometimes lose enthusiasm for this game for a few days when there are some events happening during life. Sorry for my being away, i'll post as soon as i get some sleep and some free time.


This is the 2nd time you call scummy something you did btw.

4. I fail to see a conclusion
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:51 pm

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Why are you flailing kiwi?

Kiwi wrote:1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (
I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?
)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO

1.Stels wasn't a wagon, correct. I didn't "desperately" wanted to know, I found it scummy that Stels was jumping at me when I was asking them. Besides, 1. wasn't only about stels it's about my behavior in general, strawman.
2.
Myself wrote:2) Just reread what I said before...
The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.

Look at the bolded part very closely.
3. Make other people quote them, It's subjective and I'm clearly biased towards myself.
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Kiwi wrote:You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?

I just realized your behavior can be easily associated with a Strawman's.
Change that list to Gbevil>Kiwi>Rewq>Stels.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:57 pm

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Morthas wrote:Why are you flailing kiwi?

Kiwi wrote:1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (
I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?
)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO

1.Stels wasn't a wagon, correct. I didn't "desperately" wanted to know, I found it scummy that Stels was jumping at me when I was asking them. Besides, 1. wasn't only about stels it's about my behavior in general, strawman.
2.
Myself wrote:2) Just reread what I said before...
The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.

Look at the bolded part very closely.
3. Make other people quote them, It's subjective and I'm clearly biased towards myself.
4.
Kiwi wrote:You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?

I just realized your behavior can be easily associated with a Strawman's.
Change that list to Gbevil>Kiwi>Rewq>Stels.

flailing?


....really?

Out of all the possible things you could say.... you say im FLAILING>?

umm ok.

and you didnt refute anything I said

All you did was raise me in your scum meter and say im flailing.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:07 pm

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For the record, I don't expect Morthas to refute a straw man argument. No one should.

I can get on a kiwi wagon.

VOTE: kiwi
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:11 pm

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killerjester wrote:For the record, I don't expect Morthas to refute a straw man argument. No one should.

I can get on a kiwi wagon.

VOTE: kiwi

You think my argument is straw man?

how come?
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:27 pm

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kiwieagle wrote:1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO

Morthas wrote:
HellloooNewman wrote:What is there to say? 3 pages full of "answer the question!" "what question?" "you know what question, now answer!" "what fucking question you talking about?" "SCUMZ!!!".

I sufficiently think the start of this game is retarded, and I have lost IQ points for having read it.

Better?

Excusing yourself from posting?
OH HAI GAIZ I'M NOT GOIN TO PLAI, BAT I DN'T WNT RIPLAIC AUT ANIWHO.
No offense intended.


Morthas wrote:I failed to mention this but i sometimes lose enthusiasm for this game for a few days when there are some events happening during life. Sorry for my being away, i'll post as soon as i get some sleep and some free time.

Your first point takes his actions to the extreme. Just because you and Morthas had similair points on the rewq case doesn't mean it isn't possible he did he own research. Your second point is a blatant example of the fallacy Tu Quoque. You defend against your wagon hopping by explaining Morthas has done it too, which isn't really a defense for yourself at all. Your third point takes Morthas' AtE (while questionable in it's own way) to the extreme - that Morthas is absolutely doing no scumhunting because he's lost enthusiasm in the game.

You've set up a straw man so you can knock it down yourself.

The only thing I'm confident at the moment is kiwi and Morthas not being a scumteam. Either one of them is scum, or neither of them are. The whole argument is simply..too messy to be bussing.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:39 pm

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Kiwi wrote:flailing?


....really?

Out of all the possible things you could say.... you say im FLAILING>?

umm ok.

and you didnt refute anything I said

All you did was raise me in your scum meter and say im flailing.

Myself wrote:
Why are you flailing kiwi?


Kiwi wrote:
1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO


1.Stels wasn't a wagon, correct. I didn't "desperately" wanted to know, I found it scummy that Stels was jumping at me when I was asking them. Besides, 1. wasn't only about stels it's about my behavior in general, strawman.
2.
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2)
Just reread what I said before... The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.


Look at the bolded part very closely.
3. Make other people quote them, It's subjective and I'm clearly biased towards myself.
4.
Kiwi wrote:
You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?

I just realized your behavior can be easily associated with a Strawman's.
Change that list to Gbevil>Kiwi>Rewq>Stels.

Number of times and/or words that are associated with the word ''flailing'':
1 times mentioned, 5 words. Are you still saying the only thing I said is that you are flailing?
"All I did" was respond to every single of your points and have you ignore them completely in a straw man fashion.

KJ wrote:For the record, I don't expect Morthas to refute a straw man argument. No one should.

The only way I will refute the straw man argument is if I realize i got the definition wrong.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:46 pm

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Morthas, are you keeping your vote on gbevil all throughout find his replacement? I do find him scummy, but I also think that's terribly unproductive. It's fair to say we aren't lynching him before a replacement is found.

I'd also like pressure on kiwi.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:50 pm

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Sigh, It's very frustrating when that happens...
Gbevil/replacement can wait then.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:58 pm

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Rest assured his replacement is awaiting my flak as well :)
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:31 am

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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:49 am

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Morthas wrote:
Kiwi wrote:flailing?


....really?

Out of all the possible things you could say.... you say im FLAILING>?

umm ok.

and you didnt refute anything I said

All you did was raise me in your scum meter and say im flailing.

Myself wrote:
Why are you flailing kiwi?


Kiwi wrote:
1. Stels wasnt a wagon, more like RVS (I wouldnt call that reasoning, you voted him for saying answering those was useless. WHICH IS TRUE, WHY DID YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTION SO DESPERATELY?)
You did your own research on rewq? lol bullshit. I made a case on him, and you just say repeat what I say.
2.LOLOLOL YOU DID THE SAME THING
3. Tell me where you actually scumhunt. Just quote it.
oh and reading your ISO


1.Stels wasn't a wagon, correct. I didn't "desperately" wanted to know, I found it scummy that Stels was jumping at me when I was asking them. Besides, 1. wasn't only about stels it's about my behavior in general, strawman.
2.
Myself wrote:
2)
Just reread what I said before... The way you joined gbevils wagon looks like blatant wagonhopping.


Look at the bolded part very closely.
3. Make other people quote them, It's subjective and I'm clearly biased towards myself.
4.
Kiwi wrote:
You are always by the sidelines, off the radar, minimalistic scumhunting. Response?

I just realized your behavior can be easily associated with a Strawman's.
Change that list to Gbevil>Kiwi>Rewq>Stels.

Number of times and/or words that are associated with the word ''flailing'':
1 times mentioned, 5 words. Are you still saying the only thing I said is that you are flailing?
"All I did" was respond to every single of your points and have you ignore them completely in a straw man fashion.

KJ wrote:For the record, I don't expect Morthas to refute a straw man argument. No one should.

The only way I will refute the straw man argument is if I realize i got the definition wrong.



You responded to every single of my points?

Yeah...no.


1.Oh and killerjester, please read both cases. She copied what I said.
2. So the fault is on the defender not in the attacker?
3.Uhhh no. Please reread.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:59 am

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His #307 responds to your #300 and addresses it entirely. Your #309 is just a bad post.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:01 am

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Also Morthas is still a male.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:17 am

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I think I addressed why it isnt a bad post.

oh and
ISnt it funny how he now calls me scum for making a case a against him?
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:18 am

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All your trying to do right now killer is just discredit my post.



Which if Morthas flips scum...
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