Mini 1211: Murder in Sicily [Over]

[Maruchan]

Bub Bidderskins

Obvscum, should be lynched right away. Posts are nothing but a bunch of IIoA. Also seems to believe that Friend is a doublevoter, which is interesting.

Oops, that was my bad. What threw me off was that Friend did not

unvote.

In the future, please unvote so I can avoid such mistakes. That goes for everybody.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone of this:

1) Votes must be bolded, on a separate line, and in the form of

“vote: player”.

From now on, if your vote is not on a seperate line, I will not count it.

In other news, I'm replacing

MusicNinja

, so wish me well on yet another ride on the replacement merry-go-round. Yech.

if I wasn't already in the game, I'd offer my services!

[Bub Bidderskins]

Vote count 1.10

(3) MusicNinja: Friend, Maruchan, Scumhunter [L-4]

(3) Maruchan: Substrike22, Tovarish, Whiskers [L-4]

(2) Whiskers: LTP Mafia, bobsnox [L-5]

(1) LTP Mafia: Panacea [L-6]

(1) monk: iamausername [L-6]

(3) Not Voting: MusicNinja, Noramp, monk

With

13

alive it will take

7

to lynch

[Maruchan]

Oh hey look I might be out of three of my games in the same week!

[Whiskers]

Yeah, I'd contact hiplop , but he already replaced in.
No wait-- wrong game. I WILL contact hiplop, he always seems to have thirty or so active games going on at a time.

[Maruchan]

I like hiplop. See if he can come in

[Tovarish]

IAM: In what world is 418 awesome?

[Scumhunter]

Sorry about fail voting Bub

[Panacea]

First off, thanks for the mayor votes.

Second, thank you guys for making this game enjoyable. Aggression is present but not too much so, and in good fun, while humor is in abundance. My last mini was horrible. I'll go into more post-game.

Bobsnox, you need to post. Just because you have over hualf the town convinced that you're a PR, doesn't mean you get to skate.

You claimed in #278.

#314: "Wow, I must have been really scummy for anyone to still be doubting my towni-ness after I claimed. Huh. Substrike is after Whiskers and Musicninja is still alive." Helpful.

#346: "Whiskers has bad logic. No one is counterclaiming, so I must be town and you're scum for disagreeing."

#448:Votes Whiskers and insinuates that he'll investigate him tonight.

It's time for a lynching. I know who I'm investigating tonight if I live/don't get roleblocked, etc.

It's weird that this is done in the same sentence. A vote implies that you want him lynched. As in dead tonight. As in un-investigatable(it's a word for right now! )

Suspicion flew off of Bob after his claim. It worked too beautifully. A few of you are saying that you think he's the cop because of the timing of his claim. I think that while that makes sense, his actual content has done nothing to demonstrate a townie pm, much less one who is supposedly confirmed town. I think his claim worked to get him away from the noose, and it worked too well.

UNVOTE: LTP Mafia
VOTE: Bobsnox

Aaaand, here we go.

[Maruchan]

Correction, I said I want to see what his report tomorrow is, not that all suspicion is gone. Js

[Whiskers]

There are some players who believe him because of his timing, and some players that Don't believe him --

because of his timing

. I don't believe him, I like him less than MusicNinja, but he also claimed a power role.

[Whiskers]

I think that the timing was indicative of, "If I don't claim now, the next time I log on I'll have been lynched." He was about to go away or something, if I remember right, and wouldn't have access when he suspected he'd be put at L-1 and Lynched. This is neither a scum-tell nor a town-tell, and I think you're all nuts for reading scum or town into it.
I think he's scum.

[Scumhunter]

Panacea, regardless of whether we believe Bob's claim (I'm reserving judgment on this for now) we aren't lynching bob today. So stop wasting your vote please

[Panacea]

Oh. My main problem with him is how well he got out of suspicion.

Okay.

Deadline was removed from the thread title when the number changed, and I can't find it in the votecount.

Mod: Did I miss a deadline extension? And are we 1208, or 1211? Thanks!!

[Maruchan]

@ Mod, how long before you start replacing the two people who haven't confirmed? 96 hours?

I'll go ahead and start the day now. Both crappy and cloudocean have received prods, and will be replaced if they have not posted in 48 hours. I would have done this yesterday, but it just so happened to be my birthday (thanks for the B-day wishes Panacea, by the way).

Day Start!

Vote count 1.0

(13) Not Voting: Panacea, LTP Mafia, crappy, Scumhunter, bobsnox, Substrike22, Noramp, monk, Tovarish, Friend, iamausername, Whiskers, cloudocean

With

13

alive it will take

7

to lynch

Deadline: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/cus ... 00&p0=1060

1 week till deadline

[Panacea]

Thanks, Maruchan! So, it's Musicninja or Maruchan. I want to see something first.

Regardless, Bobsnox absolutely needs to post more.

[bobsnox]

I said that because of the deadline.

That's extremely antitown to push to lynch a claimed, non-CCed cop on day one. Just think about what you're suggesting...

[Friend]

Panacea, no bob votes today even though he's probably scum.

MusicNinja votes are the way to go since we probably don't have too much time for a competing wagon and Maruchan is pretty clearly town.

[Whiskers]

Panacea, no bob votes today even though he's probably scum.

MusicNinja votes are the way to go since we probably don't have too much time for a competing wagon and Maruchan is pretty clearly town.

How can you say this?
I mean, how do you know, how are you SOOOO Sure? You have pretty definate reads on everypony I guess, I jsut don't know How you're getting them or how you can be so damn sure.

[Friend]

I'm always confident when I scumhunt. If you doubt yourself, you're less effective.

[Scumhunter]

I don't know if Maruchan is clearly town but he's a bad lynch today just because he has been quite active and if he is scum, we will have plenty of chance to gather evidence as the game goes on to why his actions necessarily indicate scum. I agree with Friend and think that a MusicNinja lynch is the way to go at this point.

[Whiskers]

So lets say we spend another 2-3 days getting a replacement, then we have like a week till deadline, you think in 1 week someone can go from being scummy to turning around and being townie enough to not get lynched? Unless you have a set of "Substrike's Five Miracle Questions To Cure Scummieness" I don't see this happening.

It's happened before. It's totally possible to go from everypony on one wagon and thinking one player is scum to lynching a formerly radar-bottomed coasting player. One week is a lot of time, that's why every day is THREE weeks long, so that confused newbies can let their ideas and stuff stew.

Interesting that you want to push a lynch. I'd like to have the day over too, but activity has suddenly picked up. If it can KEEP up until a replacement, then I am so down for it.

You make a lot of jokes and stuff, have you done any scumhunting? Though I don't think Iever defended you, I know you did defend me. I'm not sure of your alignment.

Vote: Maruchan

.
Now convince me to change it back.

I feel like I have repeated this a lot lately. -.- When someone I see is town is accused of scum, and the accusation isn't REFERENCED to their proof of scum (quoted), then yes I will "defend them" in asking the accuser to prove their accusations rather than just sheepish the accusations. Its like the point I made with substrike. I can say he claimed scum and he told us his partners name all I want, but none of you should BELIEVE me unless I provide proof that he has done so. You should ALL go to his defense and say "Where does he say that?".

Its not that I am trying to rush a lynch, I truly think musicninja is scummy. I think scummy people deserve to be lynched. IE: I think we should lynch this spot. So yes I will be advocating a lynch for him. Thats what I do when I see someone scummy. I advocate to get them lynched. THe reason I don't want to wait for a replacement? I HONESTLY BELIEVE that that slot is scummy, therefore I don't see a possible way for that slot to remove its scummieness. Anyone who thinks a replacement can fix the scummieness, must not believe the slot is scum, in which case why would you want them lynched? And if the spot IS scummy then a replacement coming in for a week won't change that, and it would suck for the replacement to repalce into a game, re-read 485 posts, then immediately get lynched out due to his predecessor's play.

I'm bored.
Usachan, can you make a vote and write up a case on somepony?

[Panacea]

That's extremely antitown to push to lynch a claimed, non-CCed cop on day one. Just think about what you're suggesting...

That's what I wanted to see.

Except for the lynch-an-inactive-player-because-of-deadline thing and potential tells regarding Whiskers, Maruchan is definitely still posting in a townie manner to me. That is to say his posting style does not fit the bill of that of my former scumbuddy.

[Scumhunter]

Panacea, what exactly were you wanting to see?

O.o I don't really follow.

[Panacea]

His reaction to my vote and negative attention.

[Maruchan]

I'm bored.
Usachan, can you make a vote and write up a case on somepony?

Is this applying to me?

Except for the lynch-an-inactive-player-because-of-deadline thing and potential tells regarding Whiskers, Maruchan is definitely still posting in a townie manner to me. That is to say his posting style does not fit the bill of that of my former scumbuddy.

Can we still be buddiez wiffout da scum part?