TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[Rodion]

What's the vote count. I feel that Andrew is scum, but I wouldn't like to hammer until andrew gets a chance to talk.

I think he has 8 votes and 13 are needed, so L-5.

[TheJakalope]

Oh, alright. VOTE: Andrew.

[Junpei]

Oh, alright. VOTE: Andrew.

Hey new guy, could you give us reads/explanations for more people than Andrew? Well, you didn't give explanations on Andrew, but if you do a full read list it shouldn't matter.

[killerjester]

I think it's more realistic to ask for his scumreads (and explanations), maybe any strong townreads (and explanations), and any highlights that sparked his "Oh hey! I should mention this!" meter.

Dude's just read 80 pages. Personally I'm not expecting a dissertation.

[Meransiel]

Let me get this straight. You're claiming that Andrew is Town, despite his flip-flopping, and overall basically incomprehensible play?

Yup.

[Meransiel]

Btw, 2 things I would like to share with you guys:

1. Lynches are NOT for punishing bad play, they are for killing scum. Think about that.
2. Shotty is scum. 'nuff said. The only reason I won't unvote Silver and vote him is that the Andrew wagon is so terrifyingly large now that it needs all the counterwagon it can get.

[killerjester]

Funny. I'd argue that the silver wagon is the one punishing BaM play (with regards to the martyr thing and all) and that the andrew wagon is the one to lynch scum neighborizer. That could be just me though.

[andrew94]

gonna go airport fetch dad.

[ThAdmiral]

Cool, thanks for the update!

Will he be replying to the unanswered questions for you...?

[jasonT1981]

Day 2 Vote Count 8

Silver 8- Nero, Hipaddict, mysterio, Shotty, CHKBallin, Junpei, Mera,MOI
Andrew 8 - THAdmiral, Banshee, Killer, Izak, Rodion,DavidX, Rainbowdash,Jackalope
Izak 4 ZeL1nk, Pinky, Silver, Pappums,
Rodion 2 - Castle, Vezo
Oversoul 1 -PeregrineV

Not Voting

Andrew94
Oversoul

With 25 alive, it takes 13 to lynch

[Pinky and the Brain]

@Junpei yes.

@ThAdmiral but you would still lynch me as a second choice? What have I actually done wrong? I know I've not been most useful but I don't see anything of mine as especially scummy, so please enlighten me.

ohai i remember u

I've looked over this again, and with MoI's info, I think that andrew is scummier than silver.

VOTE: andrew

well hello thar scummymcscummerson plz2be answering this kthx

pay paticular attention to the bit where i aks 4 ur scum-reads which u promisd in ISO #10 but over 1600 posts later have mysteriouzly not arrived! amirite?


We support (in varying degrees) all the top 3 wagons atm, however having discussed briefly with diddin I would put our hydra's

overall

preference order as (in descending order of preference): {izak, andrew, silver}.

Moar ppz shud check out dis c00t izak-wagon.

Meransiel on izak

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LOL HE ALWAYS IS DIS SCUMMY AND USELESS :D

Actually, that is just goomba being goomba.

This is, again, the way izak normally plays.

Again, izak is unreadable courtesy of his stupidity.

we ALL agree that izak is scummy and useless, we ALL condone his death

Stop talking about izak. Just ignore him, God damn it, there's no point.

V.S.

Meransiel on shotty

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OMG HE IS SCUMMY AND USELESS LET'S LYNCH HIM D:

Ok, this style of posting from you needs to stop.

Vote: shotty

@shotty: The kind of posting where you give your input and nothing else without justification and reasoning, the kind of posting where you don't ask questions, yes.

Shotty is scum. 'nuff said.

I don't understand the difference. Please enlighten me.

~ Hoppster

[Pinky and the Brain]

EBWOP: Small thing, but apparently it's been less than 1600 posts for the izak thing. Make that over 1500 posts later. >_>

~ Still me

[MagnaofIllusion]

PaTB makes a very cogent point on Meran re: Izak and Shotty.

Good work fellows!

Care to respond Meran?

[Rainbowdash]

unvote
Vote: Izak

BACK AND FORTH SOME MORE YES?

[izakthegoomba]

Yes, and I'm pretty sure shotty's reputation is more widespread than mine.

@Meran I'm not always so useless. This is the second game (not counting my first ever game (Newbie 1094) which, TBH, is totally meaningless) in which I've really screwed up and made myself look like scum. You've just had the misfortune to be in both that one and this.

It would be much fairer to label me "unpredictable" than "always this scummy and useless".

[Banshee]

It would be much fairer to label me "unpredictable" than "always this scummy and useless".

If you want to cement your unpredictable reputation, give us some reads on who you think the scum are and why. I will almost guarantee no one expects that at this point.

[Junpei]

PaTB makes a very cogent point on Meran re: Izak and Shotty.

Good work fellows!

Care to respond Meran?

What was the purpose of making this post other than to buddy up to Pinky a little?

It would be much fairer to label me "unpredictable" than "always this scummy and useless".

If you want to cement your unpredictable reputation, give us some reads on who you think the scum are and why. I will almost guarantee no one expects that at this point.

Lol banshee, that deserves a "nice one".

[ZeL1nK]

Catching up some time in the next 12 hours. Apologies for the inactivity.

[Meransiel]

PaTB makes a very cogent point on Meran re: Izak and Shotty.

Good work fellows!

Care to respond Meran?

Goomba mirrors the exact things said in the conversations before his posts. Shotty simply gives reads. Also, there are people who don't think shotty is scum - which IS an asset. Therefore, difference. Also, I didn't play with shotty before, so I wouldn't know.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Mod – I’ll be V/LA for my usual weekend family duties from today at 5pm EST until Monday morning.

[Pinky and the Brain]

Shotty is probably trolling. Merans's logic for attacking shotty but not izak is, well, shoddy. An Izak scumflip would out a Merans lynch number one on my priorities.

-diddin

[David Xanatos]

It would be much fairer to label me "unpredictable" than "always this scummy and useless".

If you want to cement your unpredictable reputation, give us some reads on who you think the scum are and why. I will almost guarantee no one expects that at this point.

I.. don't know what to say to this.

I lol'd.

+9001 internets for you.

[Rodion]

PaTB makes a very cogent point on Meran re: Izak and Shotty.

Good work fellows!

Care to respond Meran?

Goomba mirrors the exact things said in the conversations before his posts. Shotty simply gives reads. Also,

there are people who don't think shotty is scum

- which IS an asset. Therefore, difference. Also, I didn't play with shotty before, so I wouldn't know.

izak

posts first about it,

i find that a town read

I agree with ZeL1nK. In that silver is town, silver's wrong about Nero, and there's no reason to rolefish the vig yet. I don't agree on izak or andrew though. In that

I think izak is town

and andrew is scum.

To everyone on the Andrew wagon: Do you think silver is more than mildly scummy?

No.

Do you think that Zinger's flip gave you insight on izak? If so, what insight did you gain?

Guess who just got major townpoints! Thiiiiiiis guy!

I was a little put off by how izak parked his vote on Zinger for the day. From Zinger's flip, I don't think I got as much insight on izak as I'd have hoped.

My post was equally made to see who would bring the topic up later. But here's the answer you were looking for.

I don't think izak is scum.

And my scum read on Meran just grew stronger. In order to explain the apparent contradiction between his stances on Izak and Shotty he says that, while Shotty is seen as town by some people, Izak is unanimously regarded as scum. Counting the "there are no mafia JKs", this Izak one is Meran's blatant lie #2.

[Rodion]

@jasonT1981 - I think you missed this:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3337611

[ThAdmiral]

It would be much fairer to label me "unpredictable" than "always this scummy and useless".

If you want to cement your unpredictable reputation, give us some reads on who you think the scum are and why. I will almost guarantee no one expects that at this point.

Witty!