Grimm's sitewide activity is low, so his lack of presence at this point isn't something I would say is indicative of his alignment in any way. (Just checked it.)
I'm really not seeing Workdawg scum at this point, But what do I know?
If there's absolutely no chance of a Fonz lynch today, I'd be willing to lynch Cymru, cause I can't see him being town after what I've seen him posting of late.
I don't think there's NO chance of a Fonz lynch...I'm not dead-set on Workdawg - he's just my only other scum suspect at this point. And Fonz raises some valid points against him...
As far as cymru goes, I'm not OPPOSED to a cymru lynch...I just don't see his actions as indicative of being scum. In almost EVERY case, it could just as easily be explained by newbie naivete...so it becomes a question of what you believe...is cymru a newbie? Or is cymru scum? Of course, the possibility exists that he's both, but even newbie scum would be more careful than he's being in my opinion.
Well tbqh, I'm not really interested in Fonz's points on Workdawg because I expect him to be able to outargue workdawg regardless of his alignment.
Process of elimination really comes into play here, Cymru/workdawg, workdawg/Grimm, Grimm/Cymru are all pairings I am having a hard time seeing. In my mind, Fonz pretty much has to be scum.
Fair enough...I hadn't really thought of that. In fact, I hadn't really taken his ability to outargue anyone into account at all...this warrants a reread.
Zachrulez wrote:Process of elimination really comes into play here, Cymru/workdawg, workdawg/Grimm, Grimm/Cymru are all pairings I am having a hard time seeing. In my mind, Fonz pretty much has to be scum.
Those three strike me as the MOST likely scumteams.
In particular, neither of Workdawg and Grimmjow has ever voted the other, they were both on Cobblerfone, and Grimmjow supported Workdawg's bullshit attack on me yesterday. What have you seen that makes that an unlikely scumteam?
Okay, it's time. I'm putting Fonz at L-1. I went back and reread the thread, and I've determined that he's gotta die. He argues his way out of suspicion, even with me when I blocked his NK. It's over for you Fonz.
At the airport right now, but I had to get that out.
Im glad you've seen the light ve, but its WAY to early for anyone to be at l-1. cym just did it and got yelled at, why would you do this? I'm starting to really suspect you, but the decent chance of you being jk just wont allow me to vote for you.
Cym did it for no reason. I've stated my reasons for suspecting Fonz, and I stand by them. I went back and reread the thread and noticed that he's basically talked his way out of suspicion each time...taken with my jailing him last night, and I feel confident that I'm making the right choice. And Zach is right...Fonz' most likely scum-teams ALL failed to hammer him down. If they were scum and he were not, they would have hammered without prejudice. Without a thought.
I put him at L-1 because I think he's scum and you're his buddy...so the way I see it, he was in no danger of being hammered...because you were already on him and he certainly wasn't going to hammer himself. And look who Unvoted first.
You must've been suspicious of him in the first place and you've unvoted just because someone else suspects him votes. Unvote if you have another suspect or if you have evidence to unvote.
Side point- Myself and Grimm were both online and could've hammered but we didn't. My theory- Workd and Fonz are scum and Workd had his vote on Fonz to avoid suspicion. As soon as Fonz reached L-1, Workd panicked and unvoted.
Workdawg wrote:I see you snuck in a post Zach, its definitely interesting that the fonz didn't get hammered down by his top scum picks.
While I agree with ve that the fonz seems to simply talk his way out of suspicion, ve never ceases to amaze me with his scummy play.
What are your thoughts on that, Zach?
Eh, the only person I think it makes sense for VE to be scum with is Fonz, and that's a losing gambit when I think of the possibilities so I'm not really feeling it.
VisceraEyes wrote:I put him at L-1 because I think he's scum and you're his buddy...so the way I see it, he was in no danger of being hammered...because you were already on him and he certainly wasn't going to hammer himself. And look who Unvoted first.
I think Workdawg is town, (his unvote oozes paranoid town.) but this discussion can be had during the next day phase as far as I'm concerned.
I don't want the day to end prematurely, that's all. I still think he's scum, but we're a week from the deadline and if we are wrong, ve would have just cost us the game.
I honestly didn't even notice the number of people who had a chance to hammer him, I just rushed an Unvote as soon as I read he was at l-1. Actually, now that I take a count, EVERYONE not on his wagon (only cym and grim) had a chance to early hammer him. So I guess if they don't intend to do so, wtf.
And what does his subsequent re-vote at the slightest pressure 'ooze' to you, Zach?
Cymru, don't get any bright ideas...if you hammer and Fonz ends up flipping town, scum WINS unless I can block the NK again...which if Fonz flips town, I'm not sure I'll be able to do. I have NO idea who Workdawg's partner is if Fonz flips town. As unlikely as it seems, the possibility exists that Fonz actually IS town...
