Starcraft Mafia Mini 1210 (Over)

[Iecerint]

Have you publicized specific reads beyond Vifam and GBE initially being suspicious and Kiwi becoming suspicious later on?

[killerjester]

I haven't asked for a kiwi lynch, at best I asked for pressure votes.

And I haven't released many reads. No one since gbevil catches me as strikingly scummy.

[DeathNote]

~Scott Brosius has replaced gbevil! Thanks Scotty boy!!!!!~

[Scott Brosius]

Alright, will read and get a post up by tonight.

[Iecerint]

HIIIIIII

Claim please.

[Iecerint]

Sooner is better if you want ++<3 points.

Name onry is OK idc.

[Iecerint]

Off-topic: Additional modtalk clarified that I would always have my town wincon even if my wincon were modulated for whatever reason. (My posts about KJ inspired me to ask about whether the game was advertised bastard, etc.)

[Scott Brosius]

Disclaimer: I know absolutely nothing about Starcraft.

First few pages are meaningless.

The fight between Psyche and my slot was stupid and didn't solve anything. Way too much dependence on meta going on in this game. Mostly Psyche and I don't like him attempting to deflect blame for constant meta dependence in 160 on Vifam.

He is OMGUSing me.

This is weak for a vote. I think this is one of the most trite and overused tells. The only people that actually do this are newbies and even then it's never really indicative of alignment. This and posting admitting a prod-dodge looks bad.

The claim seems legitimate. I guess there seem to be name claims going around.

I am Valerian Mengsk.

I have no idea who that is.

Agree that KJ was not misrepping, it was a bad step by Newman. However as someone who also has no clue about flavor, I don't think it's as scummy as it was made out to be.

Esp finally arrives and is useless. Reminds me of the one time I played with him and he was scum and almost slipped through the cracks under the always awful "too scummy to be scum" argument. That was awhile ago though.

Granted I did skim, but nothing from Rewq caught my eye. What exactly is the case?

I will start here.

VOTE: Espeonage

[Espeonage]

Lol. I was actually scummy that game I'll admit. Actually that was a bad game.

Anyways, How am I too scummy to be scum this game?

[rewq455]

Mengsk is one of the main villians from the series. Given the mods earlier post however it is irrelevant. Also since several players have claimed non-protoss, i doubt the protoss = town theory. Note however how noone has claimed one of the zerg characters

[kiwieagle]

Disclaimer: I know absolutely nothing about Starcraft.

First few pages are meaningless.

The fight between Psyche and my slot was stupid and didn't solve anything. Way too much dependence on meta going on in this game. Mostly Psyche and I don't like him attempting to deflect blame for constant meta dependence in 160 on Vifam.

He is OMGUSing me.

This is weak for a vote. I think this is one of the most trite and overused tells. The only people that actually do this are newbies and even then it's never really indicative of alignment. This and posting admitting a prod-dodge looks bad.

The claim seems legitimate. I guess there seem to be name claims going around.

I am Valerian Mengsk.

I have no idea who that is.

Agree that KJ was not misrepping, it was a bad step by Newman. However as someone who also has no clue about flavor, I don't think it's as scummy as it was made out to be.

Esp finally arrives and is useless. Reminds me of the one time I played with him and he was scum and almost slipped through the cracks under the always awful "too scummy to be scum" argument. That was awhile ago though.

Granted I did skim, but nothing from Rewq caught my eye. What exactly is the case?

I will start here.

VOTE: Espeonage

borderline RVS

[killerjester]

Mengsk is one of the main villians from the series. Given the mods earlier post however it is irrelevant. Also since several players have claimed non-protoss, i doubt the protoss = town theory. Note however how noone has claimed one of the zerg characters

Vifam has. The Overlord is a Zerg unit. He's also the only one who hasn't been given a character's name.

[Iecerint]

Arcturus Mengsk is a villain; his son, Valerian Mengsk, is not, really. He has a can-I-measure-up-to-my-father complex, and he's blind to his father's more questionable character aspects.

I'm the only one who's claimed a villain so far. Well, Duke is kinda villain-y. Until SC2, most of the villains were pretty morally gray, tbh.

Agree that KJ was not misrepping, it was a bad step by Newman. However as someone who also has no clue about flavor, I don't think it's as scummy as it was made out to be.

Could someone re-summarize what this dispute was? I remember it happening, but no details.

[DeathNote]

~Scooby replaces avasthearties~

[scooby]

I am rereading this game tonight. Expect a post on some hours.

[rewq455]

Arcturus Mengsk is a villain; his son, Valerian Mengsk, is not, really. He has a can-I-measure-up-to-my-father complex, and he's blind to his father's more questionable character aspects.

I'm the only one who's claimed a villain so far. Well, Duke is kinda villain-y. Until SC2, most of the villains were pretty morally gray, tbh.

Agree that KJ was not misrepping, it was a bad step by Newman. However as someone who also has no clue about flavor, I don't think it's as scummy as it was made out to be.

Could someone re-summarize what this dispute was? I remember it happening, but no details.

My bad. Forgot there was more than one Mengsk

[rewq455]

Arcturus Mengsk is a villain; his son, Valerian Mengsk, is not, really. He has a can-I-measure-up-to-my-father complex, and he's blind to his father's more questionable character aspects.

I'm the only one who's claimed a villain so far. Well, Duke is kinda villain-y. Until SC2, most of the villains were pretty morally gray, tbh.

Agree that KJ was not misrepping, it was a bad step by Newman. However as someone who also has no clue about flavor, I don't think it's as scummy as it was made out to be.

Could someone re-summarize what this dispute was? I remember it happening, but no details.

It was KJ misinterpreting one of Newmans posts which made it appear that Newman contradicted himself when talking about his role-claim. That is basically the dispute.

[Iecerint]

I am rereading this game tonight. Expect a post on some hours.

Nameclaim, please.

[scooby]

Ok, I reread.

At first I was, well, nameclaiming is stupid as hell, but then things went better than expected (more later).

I'm Raynor, terran. I will also add that I can't vote Vifam. Mod didn't explain why.

Ironically enough, she is my top suspect for scum. I don't even need a case.

You guys notice a patter on claims? Well, guess who doesn't fit.

Overlord? Seriously?

Please lynch.

[scooby]

I'll also say that rewq is clearly town as well as newman.

First rewq is town because scum wouldn't have claimed the ability of voting after death. Scum would have likely saved that ability for an intempestive hammer.

The way newman claimed and the way he defended his claim against the "protoss" lame accusation, makes me also think that he is town.

I think killerjester is also town if Vifam is scum. I don't see scum trying to break the game with something that created a fakeclaim.

I have a good feeling abouit Iecerint, but that Duran claim screams third party a little too much for my taste.

I'm meh about the others. I need to reevaluate Morthas, Psyche and Espeonage once Vifam flips.

[kiwieagle]

Ok, I reread.

At first I was, well, nameclaiming is stupid as hell, but then things went better than expected (more later).

I'm Raynor, terran. I will also add that I can't vote Vifam. Mod didn't explain why.

Ironically enough, she is my top suspect for scum. I don't even need a case.

You guys notice a patter on claims? Well, guess who doesn't fit.

Overlord? Seriously?

Please lynch.

Dont outguess the mod

I'll also say that rewq is clearly town as well as newman.

First rewq is town because scum wouldn't have claimed the ability of voting after death. Scum would have likely saved that ability for an intempestive hammer.

The way newman claimed and the way he defended his claim against the "protoss" lame accusation, makes me also think that he is town.

I think killerjester is also town if Vifam is scum. I don't see scum trying to break the game with something that created a fakeclaim.

I have a good feeling abouit Iecerint, but that Duran claim screams third party a little too much for my taste.

I'm meh about the others. I need to reevaluate Morthas, Psyche and Espeonage once Vifam flips.

Vifam is active lurking.
(I did the same my first scum game, IM JUST SAYIN)

[scooby]

Dont outguess the mod

There is no way "overlord" is a real claim taking into account what all have claimed. "Protoss are all town" is outguessing the mod. "Catching inconsistency in claims" is scumhunting.

For the people not familiar with the flavor, overlord is a type of unit on the game (similar to claiming marine, tank or carrier) while we all have claimed names of characters of the game (ex. Mengsk, Reynor, etc.)

And that inconsistency is just the cherry on the top of the cake of scumminess that Vifam has shown all the game, specially the way she tried to tie her claim with her "watcher" powers and the way she started to call town vs. town in page 3.

[kiwieagle]

I think Vifam is scum, but not because of her "name claim" (Though why the fuck did she claim watcher with no need? SHE OUTTED A PR WITH NO REASON AT ALL)

[rewq455]

Dont outguess the mod

There is no way "overlord" is a real claim taking into account what all have claimed. "Protoss are all town" is outguessing the mod. "Catching inconsistency in claims" is scumhunting.

For the people not familiar with the flavor, overlord is a type of unit on the game (similar to claiming marine, tank or carrier) while we all have claimed names of characters of the game (ex. Mengsk, Reynor, etc.)

And that inconsistency is just the cherry on the top of the cake of scumminess that Vifam has shown all the game, specially the way she tried to tie her claim with her "watcher" powers and the way she started to call town vs. town in page 3.

I agree. I think we should wait until all players claim before we consider a lynch for it. If the mod wanted to through in a zerg though, he could always use Kerrigan.

[HellloooNewman]

All this talk about Protoss, Zerg and Overlords make my head spin. Oh, and it makes me wanna make up my own language to go with it.

Itzuk narny quando floooo!