Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Nobody Special]

You would consider shooting all of those?!

Well no; but it might help if Kinetic thinks I'm somewhat of a loose cannon. (oh, wait.....)

[Amrun]

Okay.

[Mr. Flay]

Seventh Vote Count of Day Five:

Zdenek - 7 (bvoigt, Nobody Special, Yosarian2, ConSpiracy, Amrun, Flameaxe, Battousai)
xvart - 4 (Magister Ludi, Bunnylover, Zdenek, ooba)
Cobblerfone - 1 (xvart)
Nobody Special - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)

Not Voting - Cobblerfone, Herodotus

With fifteen voters, it will take eight votes to lynch.

[Yosarian2]

1. Protecting someone from recruit, preventing a recruitment from happening, is much better for the town then you watching Kinetic recruit someone and then us lynching that person tomorrow, and fairly obviously so. The idea that we should waste a protection on you just so you can watch someone else makes no sense from a pro-town perspective.

I think that applies to Magister too.

(nods) Absolutely. Magister already mentioned that he might or might not protect me tonight, I think he said he'd flip a coin. Which is good, since again, he also has the ability to make the cult kill fail.

[Magister Ludi]

When I wake up in the morning the hammer cometh.

[bvoigt]

Because he was fencing in the last few days.
The only thing he was vocal about was the location claiming and cult doc directing thing.

This post doesn't seem like fencesitting to me.

[Yosarian2]

Because he was fencing in the last few days.
The only thing he was vocal about was the location claiming and cult doc directing thing.

This post doesn't seem like fencesitting to me.

No, that post is scummy for other reasons.

[bvoigt]

No, that post is scummy for other reasons.

Perhaps (I don't really find ooba scummy), but it makes me think that ConSpiracy's reasons are insincere.

[Zdenek]

Zdenek: ... Claimed "pharmacist", with a "50% chance of succeeding at protecting someone". Hasn't clarified what that means, but it doesn't really make any sense either. Why would Flay put in one single role with percentage chance of success into a game like this with no other roles like that? That would be a REALLY odd decision. I think he's probably lying cult as well.

Considering that my claim made complete sense, there really wasn't any clarification necessary (the only thing that he could have possibly been referring to was the chance that I was a cult-doc, but from flavor and the lack of modifier, it should have been clear that I was a regular doctor. His second reason is terrible too because not everyone has claimed yet so he can't possibly know whether there is another role like mine.

If you want to see a reaching argument to get someone lynched, there it is. Considering Yosarian's appeals to emotion day one to avoid being lynched, this makes me think that he was a pre-game recruit.

[xvart]

If you do not correct something which is incorrect in this list & I find out via a watch - I'll consider it as a "culled" claim.

Remind me but I remember you not having conclusive information about specific people visiting places, only more a voyeur type role knowing someone visited a place. So how does location claiming help you determine if someone is lying about their location?

When I watch a particular location, I get info about who stays there and who also visits during a particular night. For example
-- On one night, I just saw a player walk into the location (which confirmed that it was his base location)
-- On the night I watched the bank, I saw SL+Batt arriving and walking in together
So my watch results are useless if I can't accurately target the location of the person who I want to watch.

The night you watched the bank you saw an unknown person, too; right? Or were you delaying information release to try and snag Batt? I can't remember how it played out. The other question I have is when someone location moves do they stay at that location or do they return to their home base every night?

but it's no big loss if one of the other two is lynched instead.

It is if we lynch town since the worst case scenario puts us pretty close to lost.

I've thought about it, and I do not think claiming home base matters.
#22, barber shop.
Though I want ooba to come with something very big, otherwise I'd like to see him lynched.

This post is incredibly weird. You want to lynch someone unless they provide something big? How does that make any sense or pro town in anyway? Either way you splice it you are wanting to lynch someone who you hope can provides big information or you are letting scum live another night before you want to lynch him. Are you hoping he provides information on a scum partner or are you delaying the lynch of someone you think is scum? Either way, you aren't lynching someone who you think is scum; it doesn't make sense.

I know this was directed at Ooba, but I don't think it's terrible as long as that person can be confirmed town by Hero in the same night simply because I don't like doubt.

Again, directing all night actions to a small percent of the population while the Cult runs amok on the larger population. Got it. The point is that we have multiple ways of preventing cult recruitment or catching Cult in a single night, and if we direct all of our resources to a single target we eliminate the double dip effect while telling the cult exactly where to go and what to do to maximize their efforts. The only benefit I can see to doing this is that it gives us a narrower lynch pool to find who was recruited that night; but the eliminated pool is so small it would be insignificant.

[Magister Ludi]

unvote

Vote: Zdenek

[ConSpiracy]

Wait, ML, are you going to say that cult already won?
That quickhammer was horrible.

[Flameaxe]

You know that Zdenek has been at L-1 since Wednesday, right? You also know that ML's last post states that he was going to hammer in his next post?

If this is a quickhammer, its the stupidest quickhammer in the history of the site.

[Magister Ludi]

How in any way shape or form was that a quickhammer? There is maximum five cult, and I've stated my intent to hammer for two days now. Check my last posts. Check how long he has been at l-1.

Whats with the panic?

[Nobody Special]

Wait, ML, are you going to say that cult already won?
That quickhammer was horrible.

You keep using that word [quickhammer]. I do not think that word means what you think it means.

[Yosarian2]

Lol. Yeah, that was a pretty slow hammer.

[ConSpiracy]

Oh, nevermind. I didn´t read his last post.
To be honest, I have been skimming this game the last few pages. It is not very appealing.

And NS, where are you talking about with keep using that word? It's like the first time I mentioned it.

[Amrun]

Wait, ML, are you going to say that cult already won?
That quickhammer was horrible.

Everyone is whining about this but no one is saying that it's scummy.

It is, especially if zdenek flips town.

[Herodotus]

Oh, nevermind. I didn´t read his last post.
To be honest, I have been skimming this game the last few pages. It is not very appealing.

And NS, where are you talking about with keep using that word? It's like the first time I mentioned it.

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0003786/quotes

[Flameaxe]

Wait, ML, are you going to say that cult already won?
That quickhammer was horrible.

Everyone is whining about this but no one is saying that it's scummy.

It is, especially if zdenek flips town.

What makes it scummy compared to every other vote on the wagon? #justcurious

[Herodotus]

I think amrun means conspiracy is scummy for complaining.

[Mr. Flay]

Final Vote Count of Day Five:

Zdenek - 8 (bvoigt, Nobody Special, Yosarian2, ConSpiracy, Amrun, Flameaxe, Battousai, Magister Ludi)

xvart - 3 (Bunnylover, Zdenek, ooba)
Cobblerfone - 1 (xvart)
Nobody Special - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)

Not Voting - Cobblerfone, Herodotus

Mr. Zdenek, longtime pharmacist at the Getz Pharmacy shop in the River Quay, was beaten senseless this evening by an angry mob. He was removed by ambulance to a specialty care center, where his recovery is uncertain.

Zdenek, Town Pharmacist/Faith Healer, was beaten into a coma Day Five.

It is now Night Five; all Night Actions are due to be no later than the evening of Tuesday, August 16th.

[Mr. Flay]

Is someone taking out the trash, or taking out the competition? In any case, police presence is up in the Quay following another shocking murder. Ooba Seaton, sometimes called Pops, was shot point-blank last night during his nightly maunderings and wanderings. The poor bastard never carried anything of value, so no obvious motive presents itself.... but lots of rumors....

ooba, Junkie/Watcher (Town), was shot in the face Night Five.

It is now Day Six. With 13 voters present, it will take 7 to lynch.

[Amrun]

I had a big post that got ninjaed by the flip. It was mostly about ConSpiracy and how he is scum.

I'll re-read him and remember why he is scum, but I do remember that he spent the whole day talking about ooba being scum maybekindasorta while the zdenek wagon grew, and then when the hammer came with warning, he was like THAT QUICKHAMMER WAS BAD!

I believe him that he was skimming, but he was skimming lazy scum (cult whatever).

He wanted to put suspicion on Ludi for what he new would be a townflip.

Also I'm really sorry I guessed wrong last night; I protected magister ludi but considered protecting ooba. I was hoping the suspicion on him would be enough to keep him alive. In the end I went with ludi because I was less sure of oobatown than luditown.

VOTE: conspiracy

[Magister Ludi]

This is possibly lynch or lose Amrun, so you should take your vote off.

We now actually need to all completely mass claim after Herod posts.