Mafia 137 - Neruzian Era Mafia SERIAL KILLER WIN!

[zMuffinMan]

edmund is own, though.

I could get behind a wagon on any of the following:

malpascp
pappums
sorg
hiraki
somerandomguy

SRG ultra-lurking while playing in another game with me that finished recently doesn't make me feel too good about him.

malpascp being utterly useless and coasting by with his "durr why isn't hiplop lynched yet?" crap makes me want him dead.

sorgster is just... ugh

I need to revisit pappums hiplop tunnel and capslock rage some time in the next day or so, when I can be bothered. Also the apathetic "

I wish we could lynch both toonfighter and hiplop today

" crap.

And Hiraki is just scum because. Nothing more than this atm.

Which one of these has the most support or a lynch?

VOTE: Pappums

Start here. Prob only two scum in that list. I've probably missed another somewhere.

Might do some reading of toonfighter (oh god, that one is going to be painful) and lewarcher when I have time.

[zMuffinMan]

edmund is town, even. I'm amazing at spelling.

[zMuffinMan]

Also "support

for

a lynch"

PS:

@Mod: Is SRG getting replaced?

[edmund.angles]

@GreyIce: I have a feeling I'm not gonna like your method of confirming me.

First of all, GreyIce must learn how to count. And the people sheeping him must learn to re-read.

@GI and zMuffin: Can you please vote for someone else than TF. It won't happen.

At the time of the above post Bowser had 6 votes, making him the biggest wagon, TF had two. Bowser had gained momentum since the votecount.

Clearly I was wrong about TF not gonna happen.
I'm gonna claim newbness on Large Normal on this one. Never saw a deadline suspension before and was getting frustrated with everyone on their own little wagons as the deadline and No Lynch got closer.

about me 'question dodging':

So no deadline.

Edmund.angles will now vote for ToonFighter or give me good solid reasons for believing he's town or I kill him today, and I WILL GET HIM LYNCHED.

First of all reading GI's post again I'm a bit unsure if he, him, HIM refers to me or TF.
Read it as edmund, edmund, EDMUND

That not a question, that's an ultimatum. I don't respond well to people who don't say the magic word.
I gave GI good solid reasons to believe I'm town, that I believed the deadline was approching. In my own little world I was the only resposible player actually trying to get a lynch while everyone else twiddled their thumbs waiting for the deadline.

@GI: I consider TF a better lynch-candidate than either Pappum's or hiplop and at present on par with Bowser, that is not the point. The point is that this day has to end and TF is the smallest wagon with active players on it.

In fact, if you go Bowser, I'll help you with either TF or Hiraki D2, your choice. Might just do it anyway.

Edmund's plea to me.

Thats not a plea - that is a deal to get a lynch to happen. I propose lynching people I already want to lynch.
GreyICE counterdeal consists of capsraging ultimatums. No deal then.

[sorgster]

@GreyIce: I have a feeling I'm not gonna like your method of confirming me.

You don't like the method of being investigated to be confirmed about your role? Sounds fishy to me.

[Zdenek]

I suspected Grey of being third party.
=> mafia could still buddy him.

yet you'd expressed no suspicion of zMuff up until that time.

As for the empking vote I did'nt agree with the top 3 wagons and there was about 3 days. I did'nt see it as impossible.

So you were pushing for a lynch to overtake the top three wagons with this?

Next biggest wagon is Toon fighter - I don't think he is scum and a lot of the wagon consists of "just look how scum he is"
Also, as of 871 I would be happy lynching 5 out of the 6 players on the wagon. I don't trust it.

You know,
VOTE: Empking

I don't buy it.

Empking - It was ISO's 13 and 14. Why did you change your mind about Hiplop?

[David Xanatos]

@GreyIce: I have a feeling I'm not gonna like your method of confirming me.

You don't like the method of being investigated to be confirmed about your role? Sounds fishy to me.

The way it's phrased is pretty damn obvious she means the flip after a lynch. -_-

[Empking]

Empking - It was ISO's 13 and 14. Why did you change your mind about Hiplop?

Honestly? I was bored.

[Maxous]

yet you'd expressed no suspicion of zMuff up until that time.

The problem with this is?

[GreyICE]

So he's suspicious of GreyICE, but then attacks zMuffin for buddying him, which as far as I have ever seen it, is scum buddying with a townie, so he's just throwing accusations around and probably trying to drive apart two townies.

I suspected Grey of being third party.
=> mafia could still buddy him.

As for the empking vote I did'nt agree with the top 3 wagons and there was about 3 days. I did'nt see it as impossible.

Wait.

Wait.

You're THIRD PARTY HUNTING?

You spent all of yesterday bitching about how we were lynching ToonFighter rather than Hiplop and now you're doing my absolute favorite tell, the THIRD PARTY HUNT?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

FREEBIE

Unvote

Vote: Maxous

TO THE WATERY DEPTHS WITH YOU

[zMuffinMan]

@Maxous,

What happened to your suspicion of me, anyway?

[GreyICE]

Sorry about the little mixup, edmund. It'll have some consequences, but they won't last

PEDIT: LYNCH HIM

[edmund.angles]

*cough*

I have a way to mod-confirm him, but I need a few more townies voting for him first.

@GreyIce: I have a feeling I'm not gonna like your method of confirming me.

You don't like the method of being investigated to be confirmed about your role? Sounds fishy to me.

He meant he was gonna get me confirmed by lynching me.

[Empking]

I think scum would either defend or bus TF, So I'm not going to sheep Grey.

[GreyICE]

Spoiler: list

1. Empking <--Scum.
2. edmund.angles <--Scum.
3. PranaDevil MintKitten Zdenek
5. Bowser <--Town.
6. vezokpiraka
7. GreyICE <--Town, via ICE/Pine.
8. Uprising chkflip <--Former scum-lean.
9. Torqez Hezlucky <--Town.
10. Maxous <--Town.
11. malpascp
13. Pine David Xanatos <--Scum, via ICE/Pine.
14. pappums rat <--Scum?
15. warriormode
16. Tomie Uzumaki sorgster <--Former scumread.
17. Hiraki (May Need Replacing?)
19. SomeRandomGuy
20. zMuffinMan <--Town.

Narrowed down:
1. Empking <--Scum.
2. edmund.angles <--Scum.
3. PranaDevil MintKitten Zdenek
6. vezokpiraka (town-lean)
7. GreyICE <--Town, via ICE/Pine.
8. Uprising chkflip <--Former scum-lean.
11. malpascp (stronger town-lean)
13. Pine David Xanatos <--Scum, via ICE/Pine.
14. pappums rat <--Scum?
15. warriormode (strong town-lean)
16. Tomie Uzumaki sorgster <--Former scumread.
17. Hiraki (May Need Replacing?)
19. SomeRandomGuy


One of my current scumreads is wrong, unless they're the SK. My previous (former) scumreads also look like potential SK candidates, but otherwise, town.

Lets do the "both of these wagons are town!" read yesterday on these.

1 - Town Empking! No one lynchy lynchy,
2 - could be, but better stuff ahoy
3 - Town Zdenek!
5 - Town Bowser!
6 - Town Vezok!
7 - ChkFlip - Fine vig shot! Certain read changes today determine a lot!
10 - SCUM!
11 - Sure, town
13 - Town!
14 - Town!
15 - Townish
17 - Wheel of fortune says SCUM!
19 - LURKER, vig here.

Maxous dies today!

[zMuffinMan]

@GI

I don't actually think he's scum, though. I just think he's being stupid.

pedit: pretty much what empking just said.

[GreyICE]

I think scum would either defend or bus TF, So I'm not going to sheep Grey.

Spoiler: Why you love me

Heh, really Hiplop?
You agree with

all

of GreyICE's points on Toon Fighter?
The first point was GreyICE attacking him for stuff Mastin said when Toon Fighter was talking about Tomie.
The second and third point was just misrepesentative. And his points convinced you???
I don't buy that and I don't buy Hiplop. Would really like to see him lynched.

Mastin - GI did'nt call Pine called scum. I like your concern about it though.

Don't really see scum doing that, however, so I've got a townread on that slot overall.

Normally, yes.
However with particular player consider it a nulltell.

oh and

Pine

-

Explain how Tomie's defence is inconsistent if you don't mind.

The patent-pending chainsaw defense? Something like this?

I got a possible solution,

tracker - target GreyICE tonight while he stabs things

You say I am scum because I have town attitudes.

it's because you seem to be trying too hard to look town. Seems forced.

Alright chkflip, give me a case then.

Or this?

Perhaps he does not grasp that he's standing above very deep waters on a very thin plank?

GreyICE,

Are you saying it is scummy for a player to give out reads without providing adequate reasoning for the reads?

unvote

VOTE: Hiplop

Yeah I changed my mind again, let's just do this already.

Or this, when the nose goes to the grindstone?

MAXOUS, boys and girls.

Maxous.

Or hell, lets just go here.

Two dead mafia
Piles of relational tells
A night kill that targeted a scumbag

And he's more interested in third party hunting than finding the dead scums' partners.


THIRD PARTY HUNTING AT THIS STAGE IS A SCUM TELL.

[Maxous]

@Grey: Except I did'nt spend the day bitching about it.
I asked muffinman why he thought TF was scum and stated I thought TF was town.
And having a feeling someone is playing like third party is not exactly hunting for them.
So, no.

@Muffinman: Lewarcher flipped scum. I don't think you bussed 2 of your buddies, particulary since nobody was paying attention to pheobus.

[malpascp]

@GreyIce: is there any other reason why you wanted edmund dead so much and so early?

Also, any claims for night actions that may be relevant on todays lynch or for next night actions should be made ASAP.

[zMuffinMan]

heh just went back over first few pages.

#72

3 dead. 2 scum. I'd say there's at most one scum left in {sorg, maxous, malp}. I don't think it's maxous if it's one of them. It's likely they're all town, actually.

[GreyICE]

@Grey: Except I did'nt spend the day bitching about it.
I asked muffinman why he thought TF was scum and stated I thought TF was town.
And having a feeling someone is playing like third party is not exactly hunting for them.
So, no.

Oh no, you are exactly third party hunting.

You were using it to discredit my drive on Toon Fighter. You suggested the motherfucking tracker track me. 'cause I was obviously scum. You danced, you hollered, you screamed.

And then when I moved to hiplop, you went silent.

Now it slowly resurges.

I got a possible solution,

tracker - target GreyICE tonight while he stabs things

I suspected Grey of being third party.
=> mafia could still buddy him.

As for the empking vote I did'nt agree with the top 3 wagons and there was about 3 days. I did'nt see it as impossible.

Lame excuses, Maxous. Lame excuses. You were calling people scum to save Toon Fighter's ass, without thinking of how it would cost yours, just lashing out.

You're scum, Maxous.

You're definitely scum.

You were just a tad too eager today. A tad to eager to move onto my wagon while still having me a scumread. A tad to eager to use the third party excuse to follow me as needed and discredit me when wanted.

You got sloppy, Maxous. You were confident no one was suspecting you day 1, and you overplayed your hand.


You were confident no one saw you as scum. It made you cocky enough to chainsaw for Toon Fighter, and chainsaw HARD. Virtually everyone voting for him you slammed into, either for having bad reasons or for being scum. Then today? You vote with one of your scumreads, using the patent-pending third party excuse. Third party. Oh yes. The excuse for having a scumread on someone but still voting with them when you want to. That's a well worn excuse - using it? Lazy.


Confident. Cocky. Lazy.

DEAD

[GreyICE]

@GreyIce: is there any other reason why you wanted edmund dead so much and so early?

Also, any claims for night actions that may be relevant on todays lynch or for next night actions should be made ASAP.

I'm confirmed town.

This is awesome.

Kthxbai.

[zMuffinMan]

It made you cocky enough to chainsaw for Toon Fighter, and chainsaw HARD. Virtually everyone voting for him you slammed into, either for having bad reasons or for being scum.

To be fair, it's not like Maxous tried to hide it. The fact he was so blatant about it, over and over, makes me think Maxous is town. He tried

way

too hard to prevent the toon fighter lynch and even moved off the only other viable lynch at the time (hiplop) and onto Empking (??????), still saying he didn't like the toon fighter wagon (and would be happy lynching 5/6 on the wagon). That's not scum play. That's just wrong-town play.

[Maxous]

The word 'suspected' refers to the past tense.
So, yeah..

And the first paragraph was exagerrated. I stated the possibility of you being scum once.

[GreyICE]

........................

No.

Do not tell me he's too scummy to be scum.

That's fucktarded.

Try again.