Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Mr Subliminal]

WLC/GW (whichever doesn't get lynched)
CJ
Kast

We would like a GW lynch over a WLC lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: GW

[Kast]

Tans: from the discussion, great plan except you're teaming up with Andy, who is scum. I guess he DOES have a vested interest in blocking cult so whatevs. Since I apparently got on the mason block's baddie list (excluding muffin?) for not loving Nik's crazy or because inhim didn't want to read my posts...

My list (for all the good it will do) was already conveniently posted, but most likely scums are:

BB (cult)
Andy (mafia)
CJ (mafia)

unvote

BB, I don't really see you as doing anything pro town or pro mafia. I don't see you as having done anything really all game. That feels like cult to me. You

still

haven't voted or stated any suspicions or scum hunted in any way.

[Kast]

ebwop:crazy fakeclaim gambits*

[Candle Jack]

Kast is vezok still mafia for you?

[PeregrineV]

I want everyone to list their 3 favorite anti-town people.

WLC
Ghostwriter
CJ/Inhim

[inHimshallibe]

V/LA through tomorrow. Not at work at all today, so I won't be at a comp past 9:00 or so.

[Kast]

CJ: vezok is not in my top 3 scum picks. His posts do read more as mafia to me than as cult or town, though his dearth of posts recently make it hard for me to confirm or reject my initial reads (as it was v/la, I don't necessarily see this as a tell either way).

[zMuffinMan]

VOTE: ghostwriter

I'm lazy and I'll have to catch up on what I've missed tomorrow.

In the mean time, thought I'd drop a vote to prod dodge.

[Nikanor]

Blocking the mafia doesn't really help us. They probably have another three members at least, so we'd have to block all three of them to stop the mafia kill. Rather, we should aim at people who might be the cult leader, to minimize recruitment chances. My list of potential cult leaders is:
WLC
Peregrine
Oversoul

vezok, CJ and Toasty are all likely mafia. I don't think they'd make good block targets.

[vezokpiraka]

Why would there a scum delayer when they have a full roleblocker?

[Candle Jack]

Who is the scum roleblocker again?

[vezokpiraka]

Who is the scum roleblocker again?

I don't know. I'm just saying.

Why do you give scum a delayer when you can give them a full roleblocker? I don't get it.

[Nikanor]

Flavour reasons, balance reasons, etc. Outguessing the mod will get us nowhere, as I learned when ooba flipped town, even though his role was useless for town.

I think you're mafia because you delayed someone who you didn't mention at all d1. I think that someone decided your action for you.

[hiplop]

who did he delay?

[hiplop]

lol he used it on oversoul?

VOTE: vezok Gotta be cult. Also support WLC death

[vezokpiraka]

Flavour reasons, balance reasons, etc. Outguessing the mod will get us nowhere, as I learned when ooba flipped town, even though his role was useless for town.

I think you're mafia because you delayed someone who you didn't mention at all d1. I think that someone decided your action for you.

When I made the action I was like " I have to delay some sort of scum. Let's pick a lurker" So I chose oversoul.

[ToastyToast]

lol he used it on oversoul?

VOTE: vezok Gotta be cult. Also support WLC death

Why is Oversoul a bad target again? OH WAIT HE'S NOT

[Kast]

Tans: Once you decide on your three targets, if there are any probMafia among them, I'd like to request that you have Andy target the player most likely to be cult rather than a probMafia.

Vezok: Did you think oversoul was cult or mafia when you decided to target him?

[vezokpiraka]

Tans: Once you decide on your three targets, if there are any probMafia among them, I'd like to request that you have Andy target the player most likely to be cult rather than a probMafia.

Vezok: Did you think oversoul was cult or mafia when you decided to target him?

Cult. I didn't suspect him too much of being scum and right now delaying a scum kill is pretty hard so I wanted to hit a cult.

[Kast]

Why is Oversoul a bad target again? OH WAIT HE'S NOT

I agree with Toast here. Hiplop's criticism doesn't make sense. Oversoul is not confirmed town, and certainly wasn't as of end of D1. There wouldn't be anything inherently wrong with delaying him. Nik has it right; Vezok's pick is suspect mainly because he never mentioned or hinted at being suspicious of oversoul.

[Oversoul]

Why would you put the miller as a possible scum pick, Peregrine? That doesn't make sense.

Vezok, why am I suspicious for being a lurker?

Anyway, Scumpicks would have to be:

WLC
GW
Peregrine

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WeyounsLastClone (3) -

Friend, Andrius, nopointinactingup

Ghostwriter (3) -

Nikanor, Mr. Subliminal, zMuffinMan

PeregrineV (1) -

Candle Jack

vezokpirake (1) -

hiplop

Not Voting (10) -

inHimshallibe, Kast, WeyounsLastClone, Blackberry, GhostWriter, ToastyToast, vezokpiraka, tanstalas, PeregrineV, Oversoul


With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch and 9 to no lynch.

Deadline for the first lynch expires in:

(expired on 2011-08-27 03:30:00)

V/LAs:

Ghostwriter: 08/12 - 08/15
PeregrineV: 08/12 - 08/15
WLC: 08/12 - 08/15
Friend: 08/15 - 08/20
ToastyToast: 08/17 - 08/20

[tanstalas]

Blocking the mafia doesn't really help us. They probably have another three members at least, so we'd have to block all three of them to stop the mafia kill. Rather, we should aim at people who might be the cult leader, to minimize recruitment chances. My list of potential cult leaders is:
WLC
Peregrine
Oversoul

vezok, CJ and Toasty are all likely mafia. I don't think they'd make good block targets.

I need for you to explain this post to me.

If the person doing the kill is RB'd/JK'd/etc then the kill does not go through I believe?

[Kast]

I think the idea is that, if you publicly pick 3 players to block, and mafia know who the 3 are, unless you manage to pick all the mafia players, then they will choose a non-blocked mafioso to make the kill. To compound that, if at least one of {Andy, Toast} is mafia, then he can pretend to block his target, but actually let the target take actions with town none the wiser, and maybe even make the kill himself.

[Kast]

As I trust Tans and Toast, I would suggest rather than publicly coordinating who exactly you are targeting, instead you assign Andy's target, and maybe Toast's target, but not to announce your target. Furthermore, if we manage to lynch CR, then consider assigning Andy and Toast secondary targets to block based on likelihood of mafia, rather than likelihood of cult.