Flash mafia 3 (town wins)

[Porochaz]

Wait, wait, wait... your not masons?

[shaft.ed]

^he's a pro at this game^

[Porochaz]

I suspected it, but why aren't we considering Fate as quite a major lynch candidate?!?!

[VP Baltar]

He clearly lied as town to save his town read. If you're going to lynch out of that pair, you ought to lynch Llamarble...who was run up and the only reason he was alive is a faked mason claim.

[Porochaz]

This is true. Llamarble, how do you feel about this?

[Fate]

Poro has been calling for my lynch for a couple fuckin pages and now its "wait youre NOT masons?"

I refuse to lose to Poro-scum.

Consider him permanently a hated townie.

Attn last scums: This is a free pass to organize lynches in such a way that Poro and I are in LyLo together, I guarantee you the win then

[farside22]

@farside - as an only semi-impartial observer, I see DGB trying to goad tajo into voting her. Can't tell you what she was thinking or if she actually believed he was scum, but she was doing everything in her power to get him to vote her. I think tajo's resistance to this comes across as town cause I can only assume he was reading this slot correctly and could see through DGB's paper thin efforts.

Here's my take on it. Tajo stated his second scum read was on DGB, however once the whole debate between Llama and the fake claim was put out instead of voting his "second scum suspect" he switches to someone else and DGB calls him out on it. I don't see that as town.
I see that as calling a spade a spade. Tajo ignoring DGB while still calling her scummy. Not being goaded in my view looks more scummy because it's more fear involved if you cave into the goading. Then the question of why didn't he vote DGB comes up. Not caving in and ignoring it can get bypassed in my view.

[Porochaz]

No, I voted you before because you haven't been consistant in your reads. You've been jumping around like Zebedee on crack cocaine.

I missed the bit about the mason claims being a lie. However it cements my opinion of you. What you did was extremely anti-town at best, scum motivated at worst. There is no possible town motivation for misleading the town that badly for so long.

Here's the thing about me, I hate the starts of games. I just find it difficult to get going, but if I survive past a certain point I start to get interested and I don't understand what you have done in this game except useless posturing and misleading the town. You constantly push players with your Fate brand of "DO IT OR ELSE" but unlike the last game I played with you, your doing it with no conviction, your votes change on a whim. Which doesn't go with you playstyle at all.

Your third line isn't playing properly to a town win condition but then really for the majority of this game, you've been playing it less than I have.

Offering scum the win isn't really doing you favours either.

[farside22]

EBWOP:
"I don't see that as town"

Should read. I don't see that as = Tajo as town.

[Fate]

When in the fucking hell did you play with me before Poro?

[Regfan]

I have a bad feeling that Kise doesn't know he's co-modding this game and we're going to be waiting on him and Mastin for a while, means I have time to read into these supposedly bad interactions between Tajo and DGB.

Wait, wait, wait... your not masons?

Correct me if I'm wrong but you believed that one of the two scum flipped was a very powerful role and believed that both Fate and Llarmable were still mason claims yet wanted to vote them. Does this mean you believed there were four mafia with powerful mafia roles at the time, if so care to explain that?

[Fate]

can we just fucking lynch mastin?

Screw prods, he KNOWS this shit is started

[Ellibereth]

not reading this shit
what fate said.

[Porochaz]

can we just fucking lynch mastin?

Screw prods, he KNOWS this shit is started

So when do you actually start playing as town?

Ill find the game tomorrow.

[Porochaz]

I have a bad feeling that Kise doesn't know he's co-modding this game and we're going to be waiting on him and Mastin for a while, means I have time to read into these supposedly bad interactions between Tajo and DGB.

Wait, wait, wait... your not masons?

Correct me if I'm wrong but you believed that one of the two scum flipped was a very powerful role and believed that both Fate and Llarmable were still mason claims yet wanted to vote them. Does this mean you believed there were four mafia with powerful mafia roles at the time, if so care to explain that?

It was always in my head that they both could be scum partners. However as we have actually only had 3 reveals, Im not making any judgements on the setup yet.

[Fate]

can we just fucking lynch mastin?

Screw prods, he KNOWS this shit is started

So when do you actually start playing as town?

Ill find the game tomorrow.

When it gets to LyLo and it fuckin matters

[farside22]

Someone wake me when Mastin gets in here and post.

[Llamarble]

It's been awhile since I was last only alive in one game.
VP, the only reason I was run up in the first place was the roleblock. There have now been 2 other nokills, so clearly something else has been at work.
I've made 2 scum die who I probably could have made not die.
You haven't made any specific complaints about my posting
What do you want me to respond to?

[shaft.ed]

someone just PM Kise. We'll need him to prod/flip Mastin either way

[VP Baltar]

PMing Kise now.

[springlullaby]

The world according to spring.

Farside

- Town read. Her being scum implicates massive stretching scenario. Janitor+RB+Goon vs. tracker/doc = not likely as it seems to be too scum sided to me.

Regfan

- Town read. I actually now think that him not following the 'plan' is lean on the town move even if his rational explanation isn't good. I also think that as scum he probably would just have made life easier for himself by not agreeing to any plan he knew he would have a hard time faking correct result about, whereas he wasn't close to getting lynched. Likewise Janitor + Tracker + Goon vs. RB/doc seems too scum sided to me. I'm also thinking that we don't need to waste more track on Farside/Reg confirming themselves.

Ellibereth

- Town read. A very strong one.

Porochaz

- Town read. Plus track result.

Fate

- Townish read, though I'm paranoiac-ing over the Llamar thing being an ass-pull curve ball gambit, but I just don't see enough advantage for scum to be pulling that.

VPBaltar (who replaced DrippingGoofball)

- I just don't think DGB would have left like that as scum. Plus townish read on VPB.

Mastin2 (who replaced PopularTajo)

- I still have a townish read on tajo. Mastin lurking to that extent as scum strikes me as unlikely too, but who knows, must not get carried away with too scummy to be scum fallacy.

Llamarble

- I still remember having a scummy read on him before his claim. Plus the masons thing instigated on Fate's part makes him bussing two buddies in a row much more likely, as he would think that his chances of surviving alone to end game is heightened. Plus consider the following scenario to explain the no-kills: N1, Farside correctly RB Llammar; N2, scums decides to no kill to confirm Llammar's masons cred; N3, Doc correctly saves. The thing that read town on his part is that he outed he wasn't a mason un-asked.

shaft.ed (who replaced crypto)

- The more I think about shafted, the more he gets downgraded in the list. I cannot think of something really town that he did. And his stating that 'Reg must be mafia goon or town tracker' strikes me as something scum may say when they are constructing a plausible scenario to move a mislynch on claimed power role. But maybe I'm over paranoiac over this because of I perceive shafted as a plausibly dangerous scum. IIRC it was also him who suggested that Reg and Farside confirm each others, I think it is a very scum oriented suggestion in retrospect as it costs scum nothing. And he certainly isn't putting aggressive pressure on anyone today.

a girl on the internet

- Scummy and should be lynched. On top of trying to move the DGB counter-wagon, she is acting all 'lol don't care' whereas the rest of town is trying to figure stuff out. She seems to be the only one to think that this game is won anyway, while the rest of the players at least seems to show a modicum of effort to make the chances improve further. I see this as typical AtE. And as scum, she kinda has written herself in that corner too as it would look suspicious if she started to put in effort or acts aggressive.

Vote AGOTI

[springlullaby]

^^
You know what, remove Llamar from the red scum crowd for now, and makes him vomit/orange instead. I think the no-kill scenario that implicated him is still stretching it a bit and put him at lower priority than either AGOTI or shafted.

I'm only okay to lynch AGOTI or shafted today.

[Regfan]

@ Spring - At this point I may as well track Farside tonight regardless of the lynch or flip. The fact that there's potentially a scum ninja in the setup means my trackings may be pointless otherwise. Also Shafteds "Goon or town-tracker" is perfectly logical especially since there's no Scum tracker in the listed roles in the setup.

Still waiting on Mastin..

[Llamarble]

I would think that having confirmably lied about my role would give me HEIGHTENED chances of endgame survival???

[VP Baltar]

had your lie not been uncovered. Don't be intentionally dense.