Mafia 137 - Neruzian Era Mafia SERIAL KILLER WIN!

[Neruz]

edmund.angles ( 7 ) -

mastin2, Empking, David Xanatos, Maxous, HezLucky, vezokpiraka, pappums rat

Maxous ( 4 ) -

GreyICE, Zdenek, warriormode, malpascp

Pappum's Rat ( 1 ) -

zMuffinMan

mastin2 ( 1 ) -

sorgster

10 Votes to Lynch

Deadline in (expired on 2011-09-03 08:00:00)

There was an error in the previous votecount, i have edited the prior votecount to fix it. My apologies.

[edmund.angles]

Neruz just PM'ed me. He overlooked that I had lost my vote during the night. I see he has also edited the votecounts to reflect this.

[GreyICE]

Angles will not result in a scumflip.

Scumflips may be found by lynching Maxous or chkflip.

Preferably maxous.

Vig shoots mastin tonight. Period.

[GreyICE]

Why Mastin gets shot tonight

1) He's been calling me scum for most of day 1. That stopped today, apparently becuase I've stopped being... uh... scum? I 'unno, but mastin forgot he was supposed to have a scumread on me.

2) His shitfit yesterday where he refused to do anything, including analyze ToonFighter. At all. He had ZERO analysis of ToonFighter. To justify this, he had minimal analysis of hiplop, and tried for different mislynches. Again, sucks when your mislynch goes south, neh?

3) Not a single useless vote count analysis that shows us nothing.

I swear, we lynch him today or kill him tonight, him being alive on day 3 is NOT acceptable.

[edmund.angles]

Does the town want to know something interesting? Maxous never quoted or responded to his 'strong town read' once.

@Maxous: Found this one. That is a misrep, since the quotation marks imply you directly said he was a strong town read. You did not. Not that serious though.

Mastin is town because Pheobus/lewarcher was trying to get rid of him in a way that is quite unlikely to be bussing.

Why is it unlikely to be bussing?

[Zdenek]

Nice misrep quoting half the speculation.

The rest of the speculation doesn't change the meaning of the sentence:

I adapt to every game I play. In this one, I need to be unpredictable. Which means that if I DO die, that the scum actually ARE afraid of me. (Or just that dang annoyed. I swear, a good 75% of the times scum night-kill me, it's not for some typical reason, like "Mastin is obv-town", "mastin's too dang good", or something like that. It's "Mastin is getting on my nerves". )

(Or the SK wanted to pull off another hiplop-style kill, IE, something which looks like it could be pro-town on an initial viewing but when you look at it again becomes quite [painfully so, in fact] obvious that it was not a pro-town kill.)

If I die . . . the SK wanted to pull off another hiplop style kill . . . - mastin is suggesting the SK killed hiplop.

Hiplop thought he was hammered. I really did'nt see him as a player sneaky enough to fake a town reaction after pretending he thought he was hammered when knowing he was'nt.
So there was absolute zero way I was voting hiplop after that.

You are lying scum. If you weren't, you'd be explaining what it is about it that was so townie, but you're not, so you're scum.

[HezLucky]

Angles will not result in a scumflip.

Scumflips may be found by lynching Maxous or chkflip.

Preferably maxous.

Vig shoots mastin tonight. Period.

unvote, vote: maxous

YES MASTER GREYICE.

i've never sheeped so hard in my life. is this what replacing into a game is supposed to be? -_-

Baaaaaa

[Neruz]

CSL

replaces his alt;

Bowser

, with his main account.

[CSL]

:proddodge:

Content tomorrow. I am done with my Bowser account for a while.

P-Edit: Ninja Neruz!

[mastin2]

Unless you've got a way to explain a scum power robbing a scum player of their vote...

Unvote

.

I'll take a quick look at the quickwagon on me. Two scum there, naturally, but no more since they wouldn't risk over half their scumteam on me.

[mastin2]

Almighty Vote Thingy

mastin2 ( 6 ) -

Toon Fighter, Tomie Uzumaki, Maxous, malpascp, Phoebus, hiplop

Tomie Uzumaki ( 3 ) -

mastin2, Empking, Bowser

somerandomguy ( 2 ) -

PranaDevil, warriormode

zMuffinMan ( 2 ) -

somerandomguy, edmund.angles

Hirarky ( 2 ) -

paupam's rat, GreyICE

paupam's rat ( 1 ) -

Hirarky

Bowser ( 1 ) -

Uprising

Phoebus ( 1 ) -

zMuffinMan

11 Votes to Lynch

Day 1 will end at approximately 10:00AM GMT+0 on the 26th of July.

vezokpiraka has 23 hours to confirm or be replaced

Toon, scum. Phoebus, scum. By proxy, rest are town. Meaning Maxous, town. Tomie/Sorgster, newb-town. Mal, obv-town.

Bowser's town as well, so the chances of Empking being scum just skyrocketed. Process of elimination, zero to one scum within the (1) voters, one to two scum within the (2) voters, with remaining scum not listed. Edmund's apparently confirmed town, since vote-stealing is a scum ability unless claimed immediately. SRG's chances of being scum go up slightly because of it.

GreyICE is, well, GreyICE. He's obv-town, so he's not scum, either. This significantly increases Pappum's chances of being scum.

VOTE: Empking. Why not?

[mastin2]

mastin2 ( 5 ) - Toon Fighter, Tomie Uzumaki, malpascp, Phoebus, hiplop
Tomie Uzumaki ( 3 ) - mastin2, Empking, Bowser
somerandomguy ( 2 ) - PranaDevil, warriormode
Bowser ( 2 ) - Uprising, edmund.angles
Hirarky ( 2 ) - paupam's rat, GreyICE
zMuffinMan ( 1 ) - somerandomguy
paupam's rat ( 1 ) - Hirarky
Phoebus ( 1 ) - zMuffinMan
hiplop ( 1 ) - Maxous

Now it's significantly more likely for there to be one scum in the four (1) voters. Additionally, chk/Uprising's chances of being scum have increased significantly. Rest is pretty much unchanged.

Tomie Uzumaki ( 4 ) - mastin2, Empking, Bowser, Pine

One of the names on here has to be scum. Guaranteed. It aint Bowser. Leaves Empking and Pine/David.

paupam's rat ( 1 ) - warriormode
Bowser ( 1 ) - edmund.angles
zMuffinMan ( 1 ) - somerandomguy
Phoebus ( 1 ) - zMuffinMan
Torqez ( 1 ) - PranaDevil

1-2 scum in here. Can't be Edmund. Prob not Muffin, a strong town-read of mine. Narrows it down to Prana/SRG/Warrior.

Let's narrow things down a bit.

1. Empking <--Strong suspect.
2. edmund.angles <--Just became confirmed town.
3. PranaDevil MintKitten Zdenek <--Investigation pending.
5. Bowser CSL <--Obv-town.
6. vezokpiraka <-- ? (Town-lean.)
7. GreyICE <--Obv-town.
8. Uprising chkflip <--Suspect.
9. Torqez Hezlucky <--Obv-town.
10. Maxous <--might as well be conf-town.
11. malpascp <--Same, but more.
13. Pine David Xanatos <--Heavy suspect.
14. pappums rat <--Suspect.
15. warriormode <--Investigation pending.
16. Tomie Uzumaki sorgster <--Town.
17. Hiraki (May Need Replacing?) <--Pending. (But probs-town.)
19. SomeRandomGuy (Awaiting Replacement) <--Investigation pending.
20. zMuffinMan <--Obv-town.

1. Empking <--Strong suspect.
3. PranaDevil MintKitten Zdenek <--Investigation pending.
8. Uprising chkflip <--Suspect.
13. Pine David Xanatos <--Heavy suspect.
14. pappums rat <--Suspect.
15. warriormode <--Investigation pending.
17. Hiraki (May Need Replacing?) <--Pending. (But probs-town.)
19. SomeRandomGuy (Awaiting Replacement) <--Investigation pending.

Three of these names are scum. SRG/Warrior/Prana/Uprising seem to have strong connections implying at most one scum between them. Eliminating those four leaves me with four left. Hiraki's pending, but prob-town. Narrows it down to three, for two scum spots:

Empking, Pine/David, and Pappums.

This game just became broken.

[David Xanatos]

I'm not quite sure how Pine's vote was scummy.. sheepish, perhaps, and the taunt to you was a bit dickish, but given that you yourself called Tomie scummy at the time...

[Maxous]

Why is it unlikely to be bussing?

Cause Lewarcher pushed for Mastin to be vigged. That's not a good way to bus, you don't much town cred for it and lewarcher would likely be clever than that.
And this - pushing him for such reasons as 'I don't want to go through such an ISO' not really how you bus.
The two of them were trying to get rid of Mastin for being

anti-town

not scum. So are you coincidentally.

@zdenek:

lol.
Good luck town.

wat?
i thought i was dead I guess it's good that I'm not, but yeah.
Can we lynch pappums, pweaase?

Yeah, alright
unvote
His reaction to L-1 and the hammer seems town. Might change my mind again but I'm thinking he is town here. Silly town but w/e

Hiplop thought he was hammered. I really did'nt see him as a player sneaky enough to fake a town reaction after pretending he thought he was hammered when knowing he was'nt.

And okay I misunderstood something about that post you quoted. Nevermind.
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Unless you've got a way to explain a scum power robbing a scum player of their vote...

1)Is town-aligned vote-stealers uncommon on this site?
2) I would imagine scum would be able to target each-other

But okay I do see your point. Question is: assuming he is town, why Edmund of all people? Who was he pushing that the mafia would'nt to vote? CSL? Hiraki?

[Empking]

EA wasn't the obv-target for today was he? He's still not confirmed town but

Unvote, Vote: Vezok

[Zdenek]

Empking, why is Maxous on your no lynch list for today?

[Empking]

Empking, why is Maxous on your no lynch list for today?

He wasn't on either wagon.

[zMuffinMan]

Prod dodging. Something tomorrow.

[GreyICE]

Unless you've got a way to explain a scum power robbing a scum player of their vote...

Well, could be a town power. Always that possibility.

[edmund.angles]

Why is it unlikely to be bussing?

Cause Lewarcher pushed for Mastin to be vigged. That's not a good way to bus, you don't much town cred for it and lewarcher would likely be clever than that.

Or maybe he wouldn't, or maybe he would be even more clever and know you would think that!
No srsly, his seconding someone elses advice for the vig is to unimportant for mastin's survival probability to give me a tell.

And this - pushing him for such reasons as 'I don't want to go through such an ISO' not really how you bus.

Considering he didn't post very much and flaked, I think he was just being honest that he didn't have the time to read mastin's walls.

But okay I do see your point. Question is: assuming he is town, why Edmund of all people? Who was he pushing that the mafia would'nt to vote? CSL? Hiraki?

It's WIFOM

[warriormode]

Empking, why is Maxous on your no lynch list for today?

He wasn't on either wagon.

And why does that exempt him from being lynched?

[sorgster]

Neruz just PM'ed me. He overlooked that I had lost my vote during the night. I see he has also edited the votecounts to reflect this.

Is there a power that does that which can use in the day phase like a day cop? Also, what if scum removed power from scum to help them avoid suspicion and chance of being lynched. Someone mentioned a third party, could it have something to do with them then?

[GreyICE]

Yes, it's the new variant on serial killer. Instead of killing players he steals their vote. So when the game goes on long enough he screams "I HAVE ALL THE VOTES, ALL OF THEM" and proceeds to lynch whoever he wants.

Then he remembers he's not bulletproof. But it's a fun role.

[Maxous]

Edmund - do you think actually think Mastin is scum? Y/N

[Neruz]

BWAHAHAHAHA!