New York 134: Planet of Hats (Scum Win!)

[xRECKONERx]

why

[VinegarEater]

School started, so I've got a seven-hour chunk of my life missing every weekday. Didn't expect you to push your way through D7 before I got home.

I'm eliminating DGB as a candidate for not being active enough to submit a nightkill so quickly. She's tricksy, but too honorable to sit out of the game but submit kills anyway.

Amrun's play doesn't make sense from a scum point-of-view. He defends me every time someone makes accusations towards me, which is a bad idea seeing that we're running low on lynch candidates. If Bvoigt flips town, it's going to be between him and me, and it's more dangerous as scum to defend someone, knowing you'll have to build a case against them later, than to be mildly suspicious or null in preparation. This is invalid, of course, if he's planning to use DGB as a final wagon.

#1640

What similarities have you noticed?

That's in reference to me mentioning bvoigt's scum play. I probably should have paid it more heed as a meta-tell, considering he did this in another game (which is currently over).
Newbie 1017 - #270

This is somewhat off-topic, but...why? (asking about why another thinks he would play scum well)

Point is that Bvoigt tends to be curious about his scum meta. Having never played with him as town, I can't confirm he doesn't do this as town, but at best, it's off-topic curiosity and at worst, it's an attempt to adjust his play to avoid getting caught.

After a mix of PoE and rereading, VOTE: Bvoigt.

Reckoner -
That's more of a bored-rereader-who-should-have-paid-more-attention-to-the-last-few-daystell than whatever you actually think it is. I'd call it a newbtell, but it's more of a dumbasstell.

Not that I expect that to change your mind.

To set the record straight for everyone, I'll clarify that we only have one mislynch before MyLo.
D8 - 1v5. Then there's a mislynch.
N8 - 1v4. Then there's a mafia kill
D9 - 1v3. (MyLo)

[xRECKONERx]

...that's exactly what I just did on the last page, but thanks.

[VinegarEater]

Actually, you said one mislynch, then recounted and said we had two.

[xRECKONERx]

Yes, and?

We have DGB as confirmed town due to V/LA.

And I'm going to go with there NOT being a Godfather due to what was said in my previous post AND the fact that Nobody Special got killed last night, which means scum got scared without their roleblocker.

[Wraith]

Votecount 8.1

bvoigt

(3)

:

Amrun, xRECKONERx, VinegarEater

Not Voting

(3)

:

DrippingGoofball, bvoigt, Celebloki

bvoigt stands at

L-1

With 6 alive it takes

4

to lynch

Deadline is

August 27, 2011

[xRECKONERx]

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That'll have to be Celebloki's doing since DGB isn't here and bvoigt isn't gonna self-hammer

[Celebloki]

I agree with a bvoigt lynch. Since NS flipped cop and I agree that it is improbable that there is a godfather in this game Reck and I are confirmed.

@Reck I think chkballin was referring to the other head of her hydra leaving her high and dry, not her scumbuddy.

Since DGB has been absent for several days and last night was so short it limits our scumpool to bvoigt, VE, and Amrun. I am still not very happy with how Amrun's predecessor played the game and could see that slot as Scum but I like how Amrun has played since she replaced in. I also still believe VE's claim. If bvoigt flips town and we go to another day it has to be Amrun or VE. It's possible it is VE and scum strong armed Jily into doing a PGO claim. They could have seen it as an opportunity given her VI status, that she'd get away with it. I still see Parabollocks/Amrun as scummier though.

Anyway longwinded

Vote: bvoigt

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[VinegarEater]

It's either Amrun or me tomorrow, if it wasn't Bvoigt.

Godfather is a definite no.

[Amrun]

I really hope thi is it because nothing else makes sense.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh hi

missed another hammer/modkill/etc

[Amrun]

Also Reck, VinegarEater is not scum because I analyzed every flipped scum and they all attacked her with intent to lynch (mostly jily, obv). Every single one. They tried to sow seeds of mistrust about the pgo claim just like they tried to discredit the second cop claim. One scum might have bussed, or two, but I went through in detail and showed why I do not believe this to be the case, when I replaced in. All of them treating the slot as a potential mislynch means the slot was a potential mislynch to them.

[Wraith]

Votecount 8.2

bvoigt

(4)

:

Amrun, xRECKONERx, VinegarEater, Celebloki

Not Voting

(2)

:

DrippingGoofball, bvoigt

bvoigt

has been lynched.

[Wraith]

bvoigt

,

Vanilla Townie

,

Lynched Day 8

Please forward all night actions by

August 19, 2011

[Wraith]

Day Nine

DrippingGoofball

,

Vanilla Townie

,

Killed Night 8

With 4 alive it takes

3

to lynch.

Deadline for this day is

August 24, 2011

With so few players left deadlines will start to move much faster now.

[Amrun]

Oh my God. What.

What the fuck.

I am at an absolute loss.

I have good reasons to think everyone here is town.

I don't know. I don't fucking know.

I think at this point, we may be forced to disregard cop innocents.

Sjdjsjsjs

[xRECKONERx]

NS had innocent on me & Celeb.

This leave VE & Amrun for a lynch.

As I've previously stated, Godfather makes NO SENSE with this setup + the cop dying tells me scum was scared. We COULD no lynch, but it'd probably just be either me or Celeb that got killed anyway.

I'm fine with ending this here and now; also fine with no lynching if everyone else wants to, but I don't feel like it'd accomplish anything.

I'm disregarding all previous reads on VE/Amrun and going back to reread if we agree to lynch today. If not, let's no lynch and get it over with.

[Celebloki]

I DO NOT agree with a no lynch. We have to decide between Amrun and VE in my opinion.

[VinegarEater]

Reck/Celeb are cleared, and the only thing that's probably going to happen if we no-lynch is we get LyLo with one confirmed townie fewer. I guarantee that I'll be here tomorrow (being a PGO whose claim the scum probably believe) as well as Amrun (being the scum). Even if we have a GF, they'll kill whichever confirmed townie they aren't, so we think we have the first situation.

I'll vote Amrun when we have a clear verdict on whether today is a no lynch.

Amrun -
From your position, I'm scum or we have a godfather. Pick your poison.

[Amrun]

I don't know what to do. I really believed your claim. Like, really. But the other two have innocents ... and I had reasons to believe they were innocent.

And I know I'm not scum.

I guess I have no choice but to vote for Vinegar Eater. But idk man. idk. Seriously I can't think of a time I've been at more of a loss.

If it comes down to me voting between reck and cel, it will be cel.

But I need to do some thinking about the likelihood of a godfather. I had previously decided it was unlikely. *sigh*

[xRECKONERx]

I said I'm fine with lynching today; Celebloki said he's NOT agreeing to a no lynch; Amrun didn't state it either way.

We are then lynching today. Kids, crossvote, and prepare for battle.

[Amrun]

I don't see the point in no lynching, no.

[Amrun]

I guess I should just do this.

VOTE: VinegarEater

[VinegarEater]

VOTE: Amrun

[Celebloki]

Essentially, if we do a no lynch we'll be at lylo and have one less person to worry about. Most likely the person to get NKed would be myself or Reck. If we were to go to no-lynch today and somehow both Reck and Myself make it through then we should have our scum. Chkballin said she didn't think we'd see a town victory here. She could have been saying that because her last scum buddy was someone we'd never suspect.

So far from how I have been playing my top suspect is Amrun. Parabollocks has been scum in my eyes for a long time. If I were to believe chkballin's defeat Appeal to Emotion then it would be either Reck or VE since they are confirmed/semi believed to be confirmed people. That's why I still have a little doubt it may be reck. At this point in my eyes he is the least likely to be the scum buddy. I would also suspect Amrun over VE so the last scumbuddy could easily be VE if chkballin is to be believed.

If it weren't inferred from my paragraph above my most likely to least likely list is as follows.

Amrun
VinegarEater
xRECKONERx

But I am not ready to throw down a vote yet, the fact that scum didn't kill either myself or reck last night makes me un easy as DGB was someone who could go either way. For scum that'd be someone to keep around. But they NKed her. This decision makes me more wary of VE and Reck. It was a good play on scums part to create uncertainty.