TV Mafia Game Over - Scum Win

[MagnaofIllusion]

LULZ Grey it is so cute when you flail.

[Castle Bravo]

What flailing?

I'VE CLAIMED SCUM.

HOW AM I FLAILING?

Hammer me, MoI, hammer me.

[Junpei]

What flailing?

I'VE CLAIMED SCUM.

HOW AM I FLAILING?

Hammer me, MoI, hammer me.

Self vote, dear Castle. Thou wilst be the light that doth guide town to victory. The flames envelope us in darkness, they shine not light but pitch black fear that the mafia feed on. Lead us Castle, Lead us to victory!!!

[MagnaofIllusion]

What flailing?

I'VE CLAIMED SCUM.

HOW AM I FLAILING?

Hammer me, MoI, hammer me.

You are flailing in ever wider, clown-like circles of uselessness posting piles of crap hoping against hope that it will distract from you partner Shotty.

You've claimed scum. It's refreshing since you obviously are. Town can deal with your insignificant self whenever we choose.

But by all means ... keep flailing ...

[Pinky and the Brain]

Oh look. Castle is playing like he did when he was cult.

unvote;vote: Bravo

If there's a cult in this game...

I swear to God you will see the Dugtrio in our avatar come out of the ground in shock.

[Castle Bravo]

You are flailing in ever wider, clown-like circles of uselessness posting piles of crap hoping against hope that it will distract from you partner Shotty.

You've claimed scum. It's refreshing since you obviously are. Town can deal with your insignificant self whenever we choose.

But by all means ... keep flailing ...

See folks? This is why you never night kill him. Logic like this. Truly makes a scumteam weep. He thinks I'm claimed bloody scum,

and doesn't want to lynch me.

What's the plan, MoI? Leave me alive? Pretty sure the standard role PM says something about 'threats to the town' and whether or not they can be alive. Of course I'm not sure, mine says something about majority of living players or nothing being able to prevent that. You mind confirming if you can leave a threat to the town alive? Sure it says something about that in yours.

Now of course I guess I could be sacrificing myself to get another night of role cop results, after sacrificing Andrew94 yesterday... which is why we're getting the shotty mislynch despite me claiming!

Isn't it awesome? Told everyone this town was derptastic.

I mean hell, everyone knows my scumplay is garbage in any case, was gonna happen.

[Junpei]

Oh Castle... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRtaRbj7FWI

Aheh, you're such a... a what? A smart fellow perhaps... heh.

Castle Bravo scum has a plan, a messy messy MESSY MESSY PLAN! Oh how messy. But oh what a plan! Oh Castle, take my hand in this rope and let thou hang!

[Castle Bravo]

Oh Castle... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRtaRbj7FWI

Aheh, you're such a... a what? A smart fellow perhaps... heh.

Castle Bravo scum has a plan, a messy messy MESSY MESSY PLAN! Oh how messy. But oh what a plan! Oh Castle, take my hand in this rope and let thou hang!

I'll self vote if you unvote and promise to hammer.

How's that?

[Junpei]

Oh Castle... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRtaRbj7FWI

Aheh, you're such a... a what? A smart fellow perhaps... heh.

Castle Bravo scum has a plan, a messy messy MESSY MESSY PLAN! Oh how messy. But oh what a plan! Oh Castle, take my hand in this rope and let thou hang!

I'll self vote if you unvote and promise to hammer.

How's that?

unvote

But, dear Castle, how can MoI and I BOTH hammer.

[killerjester]

Actually I've had a change of heart. For some reason I think Castle Bravo must have some heightened sense of what the fuck he's doing. I say we give him some more rope and see where he runs with it.

VOTE: Bravo

[GreyICE]

Oh Castle... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRtaRbj7FWI

Aheh, you're such a... a what? A smart fellow perhaps... heh.

Castle Bravo scum has a plan, a messy messy MESSY MESSY PLAN! Oh how messy. But oh what a plan! Oh Castle, take my hand in this rope and let thou hang!

I'll self vote if you unvote and promise to hammer.

How's that?

unvote

But, dear Castle, how can MoI and I BOTH hammer.

I don't know! I guess you two will have to work it out between the two of you.

But I know you both think I'm scum, so you'll both eagerly volunteer.

Vote: Castle Bravo

[Castle Bravo]

I don't know! I guess you two will have to work it out between the two of you.

But I know you both think I'm scum, so you'll both eagerly volunteer.

Vote: Castle Bravo

Bah all this, just for... the best name/avatar combination ever.

Yeah it's worth it.

[Junpei]

Oh Castle, how quite elegant you sometimes are. May I ask a simple question? Who is stalking you, so I may strike them down with fury!

Pedit: Oh Bravo, you're doing it all for me!?

[Rodion]

I like how CB's goon claim is being (almost since the beginning) changed to a SS softclaim. CB's biggest post today also has a "let me die and flip town so you can finally follow my leads" feeling attached to it. I'm not buying it for now (maybe a mason / neighbour says this was all previously combined to fish for reactions or something, only time will tell) and I'll stick to my CB vote, but I might change my vote to Oversoul/Shotty because they both look scummy with poor claims + can give us insight on other things (an unfortunate Shotty town flip at least gives us 3 confirmed townies).

I like the things Junpei has mentioned in his to do list for today, but I'd also like:

1 - the new guys (Mysterio/Jackalope/Unforeseen) to give us some reads. Unforeseen also has to explain his self vote.
2 - every player in the game to make a post after #2093 ( http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3349561 ) -> essentially, I want everyone to have a shot at declaring they possibly messed with Oversoul's investigation on CB

[killerjester]

If we're lynching CB, shotty shouldn't fullclaim. Sit down Rodion, you Italian fisherman you!

[Junpei]

If we're lynching CB, shotty shouldn't fullclaim. Sit down Rodion, you Italian fisherman you!

Shotty shouldn't full claim? Oh boy, how did this day get turned around so fast?

Shotty is still full claiming

lynch shotty

(don't worry Castle I'll still hammer you)

[Junpei]

vote shotty

Lynch doesn't happen for a little while.

[killerjester]

Beyond finding the mafia neighborizer (null tell), he's also pointed out 3 VTs that no one seems to be denying (town tell). He should full claim if he's being lynched, but I'm satisfied with the work he's done so far.

[Rainbowdash]

I still can't believe that Oversoul-town switches watch and track but ALSO chooses to hold onto BP. I mean, I really cannot see anypony who actually has those abilities do that. To an extent I can't even see scum making that move, but moreso than town. Tracking is quite the strong ability if placed in the right hooves if you want to play the probability game of results. BP is next to useless, I probably would have cashed in RB/BP night one for the cop, breadcrumbed hard, lay down the track and then fullclaim D3.

Also MILLER? I have never seen a miller + other role ever, and really fail to see any justification for it. I can actually believe that a different game caused him to screw up his claim, but im still more than sure it was a fakeclaim, especially as it was messed with, if such thing was due to a redirect, then it means CB is town which loops us back to him.

As far as I see it, CB is either some cult-ish recruit role or is a vengefull type role (scum or not) who is trying to just blow his load right here due to vig fears. Thing is I am pretty sure he will kill town either way, so I want him vigged tonight, even over Peregrine at this point who can wait for tomorrow. His post somewhat attacking me is scummy in its own merits calling me scum for trying to lynch DMSIS, who flipping town would make me town. He also can wait though, not sure he is thinking things through.

I still say Oversoul dies today, CB dies tonight, and we can deal with Peregrine and Co. later. Just see lynching CB instead of NKing him ending very badly for us through a decent chance of him somehow damaging somepony I have a town read on. I would so much rather just let him get vigged.

[killerjester]

You find CB scummish with a possibility of town SS and yet you want the vig to take him out? At least with voting we have the voting analysis to go through. And we have a chance of scum or a VT taking the hammer. Vig taking out the bomb at night is the dumbest idea I've ever heard someone suggest.

[Rodion]

Beyond finding the mafia neighborizer (null tell), he's also pointed out 3 VTs that no one seems to be denying (town tell). He should full claim if he's being lynched, but I'm satisfied with the work he's done so far.

I disagree twice.

1 - It's extremely easy for a mafia flavour cop to do that as well, so it can't be a town tell.

2 - Assuming he's telling the truth, I'm

not satisfied at all

with the work he has done. Here's a list of mistakes:

a) outed himself unnecessarily (if Andrew was going to be the lynch he did not need to tell us that he was mafia - waiting was the optimal move)
b) got Pappums killed, the ONE player I said should not be killed -> the fact that he had other scum reads to pick from doesn't help his cause
c) D3 investigated Zelink before asking the rest of the town whether Zelink was a good target (we could collectively come up with a better idea)
d) enhanced odds of a town PR being NKed since he outed 3 VTs (instead of merely saying they were pro-town)

He also said he outed himself because he was afraid mafia had picked his breadcrumbs. For God's sake, he claimed to have a defense mechanism that keeps him alive and sacrifices someone else, what was he afraid of?!?!?!

[FourseenCircumstance]

Can I be killed tonight?

[killerjester]

It's D3, how do you expect the mafia to come up with 3 VTs by now? A JOAT makes more sense.

[Rodion]

It's D3, how do you expect the mafia to come up with 3 VTs by now? A JOAT makes more sense.

D1/D2/D3?

And you can call me a fisherman as many times as it pleases you, but to the extent of my voice and vote I'm not allowing Shotty's suspiciousness to be unsolved as we head into N3. If it depended on me, we'd have solved this clusterfuck back in D2 and Pappums would still be alive (assuming Shotty is speaking the truth, that is).

[killerjester]

You think a mafia day rolecop is likely?