Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[ooba]

Go town!

[Magister Ludi]

My vote is probably going to wind up among, who are the three players I think have the highest chance of flipping cult. {Cobble (based on 3326), Xvart or Conspiracy}

[Magister Ludi]

My vote is probably going to wind up among, who are the three players I think have the highest chance of flipping cult. {Cobble (based on 3326), Xvart or Conspiracy}

EBWOP: My vote is probably going to wind up among, {Cobble (based on 3326), Xvart or Conspiracy} who are the three players I think have the highest chance of flipping cult.

[Herodotus]

Batt and Nobody, I guess one of you killed ooba?
Ooba was on Batt's list, so let's hear about this.

[Cobblerfone]

My top three:

Flameaxe, ConSpiracy, xvart? (I need to reread his interactions.)

[Battousai]

Shit. I was pretty confident Ooba was scum. Last night I couldn't decide between bunnylover and Ooba. I actually wrote a post in my notes to get Ooba or bunnylover lynched today to see if my case would be able to convince the rest of you that one of them was scum:

Ooba has been shady as hell. He targetted the bank and saw 2 employees walking in together and tried to out me because the mod posted that the place was robbed (hello flavor is just fucking flavor. We also have corrupt cops, but we aren't lynching them just for that either)? Fucking scumbag. He was just trying to get the vig lynched after getting that result as in Succ 1, vigs were unrecruitable and did not want to wait and reveal it to the cult so as to not allow me to get another shot off and it was his best chance at getting support for the mislynch if he framed me as third party (which we don't even know exists...) SK/scum. Then yesterday he claimed he was actually gambiting with his role. He could very well be lying to make himself look stronger in the massclaim. The haziness of the result seemed to match up with Sera who flipped town (and is probably why he was willing to believe him in the first place). I also don't like that he was trying to waste cult doc protection last night on himself, when it should have been given to someone who isn't scummy as hell and a likely cult target.

But at the last minute I sent in my result to kill Ooba because I felt that the collective town (with scum influence) would be too hesitant to lynch a watcher. Plus bunnylover as scum is much more playstyle change than anything as I read his ISO and that is a bit weak. I was wrong, and I accept that.

Unless cult hit unrecruitables/recruit doc protects or we vigs killed someone who was recruited in same night, we should bel at lylo today. I support massclaim even more now.

NS- Why did you not kill anyone? Or if you did target someone, then who?

[Amrun]

It's lylo already?!

Unvote

[Magister Ludi]

Well, with the outside chance cult has been successful every night, that would put them at six recruits.

[Amrun]

But there's at least one original cult, right? So that would make 7? Which would mean game over?

[Magister Ludi]

No.

Cult started with a night one recruit (1)
Night 1 (2)
Night 2 (3)
Night 3 (4)
Night 4 (5)
Night 5 (6)
Day 6 (today) would be six assuming they were able to recruit every singe night

[Amrun]

Oh, okay.


ConSpiracy is cult though. Just sayin.

[Herodotus]

ConSpiracy is cult though. Just sayin.

You don't have a suspect that you are much more certain is scum?

[ConSpiracy]

Amrun, you are wrong.
Herodotus, what are you on to with your last question?

[Nobody Special]

I targeted Yos, but he's apparently very hard to find.

[bvoigt]

Wait, ML, are you going to say that cult already won?
That quickhammer was horrible.

As Amrun sort of said, this post appears to know that Zdenek is flipping town.

FOS: ConSpiracy

I targeted Yos, but he's apparently very hard to find.

I thought Yos was almost confirmed town because he'd been jailkept by Ludi.

[Magister Ludi]

Yeah, I jailed Yosarian again last night, so thats probably what happened to your vig kill.

[ConSpiracy]

I targeted Yos, but he's apparently very hard to find.

Lol, Yos was near confirmed town (could only be scum when ML was scum)
Why Yos and not ML then?

[Magister Ludi]

Flay can you tell people the day has started (or do it again in some cases)

It hasn't even been 24 hours; relax. I remind people 48 hours after Dawn. -Flay

[Herodotus]

Amrun, you are wrong.
Herodotus, what are you on to with your last question?

If I was in Amrun's position, I would have protected someone last night who was a bad target for a protown vig. Then with only one kill from two non-overlapping vigs, I would think that one of the vigs had tried to kill my target. That would make me think that vig was scum.

[Amrun]

I protected Ludi. I already said.

I didn't think that even if a vig shot at Ludi it would make them auto scum. Why should it?

[Herodotus]

I missed/forgot this paragraph:

Also I'm really sorry I guessed wrong last night; I protected magister ludi but considered protecting ooba. I was hoping the suspicion on him would be enough to keep him alive. In the end I went with ludi because I was less sure of oobatown than luditown.

I didn't think that even if a vig shot at Ludi it would make them auto scum. Why should it?

When you saw ooba was the only person killed, did you think that you had probably prevented a kill?
If a vig had shot at Magister, would you want that kill to have succeeded?

@Nobody: Why let the success of your action depend on a random choice? Do you think it was less likely that Yos2 would have been JK'ed if he was scum?

[Amrun]

I honestly didn't since it was my first round of flips I'm seeing organically. The thought should have crossed my mind, though, I suppose.

There were other possibilities, though. I was more focused on ConSpiracy being scum.

[xvart]

Flameaxe, ConSpiracy, xvart? (I need to reread his interactions.)

I would suggest rereading your ISO from yesterday about me but that wouldn't really give you a substantive opinion of me since it waxed and waned all day.

I targeted Yos, but he's apparently very hard to find.

Lol, Yos was near confirmed town (could only be scum when ML was scum)

Not to mention he had a 50/50 chance of being JKed again...

[Yosarian2]

I targeted Yos, but he's apparently very hard to find.

...why would you do that?

[Yosarian2]

God, triggerhappy vigs always scare the hell out of me. Yeesh. Half the time they do more damage to the town then entire scum groups.

Is there any specific reason you suspect me and tried to shoot me, NS, even though I've been protected from recruitment by ML for the past 5 nights? And if so, is there a reason you didn't, like, QUESTION me yesterday rather then just randomly firing on obvtown people for no reason?

Anyway, trying to stay on focus here, my top choice for scum right now is probably Cobbler. Since a couple of people have expressed suspicion on ConSpiracy I'll go back and re-read him as well.