Mini 1219 - Bedtime Stories Mafia - Game Over!

[Evil Bullet]

Elli came off as trolling to me if not anything else...

[Beck]

What I find odd is everyone is doing things and thom can dance around and deflect why things make people town but for sleuth, inactivity = scum

Would you beleive there could actually be more than 1 reason why somebody doesn't post a ton, or hardly at all?

You are attacking him for what he is not saying instead of attacking people for what they are saying. And this is the part that worries me about you.

If you are scum faking VI, you are doing a decent job but you fucked up

If you are town and you actually are a VI, *bangs head on desk repeatedly*

[Thomith]

i was originally attacking slueth for making 2 non content posts, and continued voting him because he seemingly OMGUSed me and is pushing my wagon without reading the thread.

[Beck]

He's pushing your wagon with 5 posts?

Yeah he's doing a great job pushing.

[Ellibereth]

I can dance with that.
I can dance.

Unvote, Vote Thom

[Beck]

Guys we better slow down or we may never hear anything useful from parama

[Beck]

[Thomith]

He's pushing your wagon with 5 posts?

Yeah he's doing a great job pushing.

at least 2 of those posts are trying to get me lynched, and he hasn't even read the thread which is why i find him scummy.

[Thomith]

Make that 3 posts.

[Beck]

And yet Hip has posted many but you don't think he is scum?

And now the game is over,

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18035

I strong arm hiplop (not hiphop) day 1 (even refused to consider anyone else, like hiphop is doing)
I push for Bob day 2, refusing to consider anyone else

I was scum. Town thought I was town

Oh and Normal game with...... Daytalk.

So thom, just cause somebody pushes the hardest, doesn't mean they have town motivations for it

[Thomith]

i only find slueth scummy because he didnt read the thread, if he read the thread then i wouldn't care. Fine i'll listen hiphop could be scum because not all town push their reads the hardest, i still suspect slueth more though.

[Ellibereth]

Exactly
You're not being consistant
Mr. "LOL, HIPHOP IS TOWN BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION BY TUNNELING LOLOL"
but then calls a public declaration of not reading the thread scummy.
When by your defintion
BOTH
DRAW
ATTENTION.

ftr, I've read barely anything. And I don't plan to have read everything for a while if at all. OOOOOOOOOOOOH ME SCUMZ.

[Ellibereth]

seee
what would be consistent (but still wrong) is
"OH LOOK HE ISN'T POSTING A LOT SO HE AVOIDS ATTENTION"
by your philosophy of attention not being on a scum agenda etc. etc.

This shit + inconsistencies in attitude toward me and others in relation to previously stated stances
is what shows you don't really believe what you're saying.

[Thomith]

Of course i believe what i am saying now, because reading what people said about me thinking hiphop was town for sh** reasons i don't know what read i have on him anymore, however slueth is still scummy for pushing a lynch on someone when he hasn't read the thread, or added anything really of use.

[Voidedmafia]

Neuroz - 4th vote - not much of a reason

Yes there is. As I've stated, Neruz was the only one with original reasoning, and it was good enough at the time of the vote.

Thom - 3rd vote - your use of "we" bugs me but basically you sheep onto hip's argument about defending (interesting enough later you say thom is a town read and his defense would be too risky if he was actually scum. can you say contradiction?)

THere's a difference here. Largely because defending Neruz at the beginning wasn't as risky as defending Hiphop now. Sure, Neruz made a mistake in what he was doing with his vote which made him scummy for it, but he's not been as bad as Hiphop as, though. Not to mention that Thomith's defense of Neruz was also making him suspicious due to what he wassaying.

Hiphop - 5th vote for essentially no reason

Of my own.

from what I can see your votes have been nothing but sheeping votes with no real content or reason behind it

Dude, stop saying I'm voting for no reason because that is blatantly wrong. You have a point with me providing little content for two of them, yes, but you have no basis for saying I have no reason behind them.

and the only vote that had a reason for (thom defending somebody) you later use it to try and say it would be too risky to do if he was scum, unless I am completely mis-reading this quote

Again, differences in events, level of scumminess from Neruz and Hiphop, level of defense from Thomith, and general actions of all three are different enough that calling Thom town here isn't a contradiction.

I just really don't see scum-Thomith calling Neruz and hiphop town here to the extent where he is going elsewhere to find a wagon.

Highly agree with this. Not so much with Neruz, but with Hiphop basically having been in the hotseat for the last couple of pages, to keep calling him town despite this is pretty darn risky, since he's opening the possibility of being the next lynch should hip flip scum for defending a partner. Even if that's not true (aka Hip or THomith aren't town), it's not really something scum would do, and a factor in why I'm unwilling to vote him (barring needing a lynch at deadline).

this goes back to my original statement about you in post 338/339, you seem to try to stay on everyone's good side and not really rock the boat.

So? Why are you trying to coach me when I don't need it?

Also, where are you getting the idea that I'm afraid to post my ideas? The fact that I find others opinions to be in agreement with me own?

[Parama]

replace me

I'm not reading 20 pages of this high-paced nonsense.

[Voidedmafia]

replace me

I'm not reading 20 pages of this high-paced nonsense.

SLACKER!

[Ellibereth]

PARRRRRRRRAAA
MOST OF IT WAS ME FUCKING AROUND WITH THOMITH
I'LL STOP IF YOU STAY
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

[Parama]

I have ~6 hours a day of free time atm, and I don't want to blow it all on a game that gets 5 pages longer every day.

[Thomith]

like elli said most of it was her fucking me around which apparently has stopped so it shouldnt grow too much per day now.

[Beck]

God what a cry baby

[Beck]

@ void, obviously you are going to disagree with if, regardless of your alignment.

Unfortunately I go off my own interpretations and I feel your explanations aren't truthful

Not even sure why you said im coaching you, that's a big stretch.

Lastly, That's great you agree with everyone. I wish I could do that.

[Beck]

With me, not with if

I hate my fat thumbs

[Voidedmafia]

Unfortunately I go off my own interpretations and I feel your explanations aren't truthful

Well, you could trying explain why they're not truthful, even if it means being redundant.

Not even sure why you said im coaching you, that's a big stretch.

I asked why you're trying to coach me, or at least act like it.

You don't have to pull me along like a toddler about that.

Lastly, That's great you agree with everyone. I wish I could do that.

OBJECTION!

I disagree with you, so how can you say I agree with everyone! That's a major contradiction, Beck!

[Beck]

Of course you are going to object to the person attacking you, duh