Mafia 137 - Neruzian Era Mafia SERIAL KILLER WIN!

[zMuffinMan]

Wait, nm, happened at night.

[GreyICE]

GI. How many scum do you think are left? I'd guess 3 (prob 3 mafia or 2 mafia + 1 SK - 16:5 or 16:4:1 probably).

How confident are you that maxous is one of those scum? Suppose he isn't scum, who's scum and why?

Pappums, malp, Hiraki, nanook(formerly SRG) <- any of those would be a good bet for hitting scum, I think. Not maxous. Not edmund.

You're wrong.

[zMuffinMan]

Maybe.

I haven't actually been paying attention to this game.

Can you pretend you're a nice guy and answer the questions on the second line?

[HezLucky]

GI. How many scum do you think are left? I'd guess 3 (prob 3 mafia or 2 mafia + 1 SK - 16:5 or 16:4:1 probably).

How confident are you that maxous is one of those scum? Suppose he isn't scum, who's scum and why?

Pappums, malp, Hiraki, nanook(formerly SRG) <- any of those would be a good bet for hitting scum, I think. Not maxous. Not edmund.

OMG I AGREE WITH HIRAKI.

[HezLucky]

GI. How many scum do you think are left? I'd guess 3 (prob 3 mafia or 2 mafia + 1 SK - 16:5 or 16:4:1 probably).

How confident are you that maxous is one of those scum? Suppose he isn't scum, who's scum and why?

Pappums, malp, Hiraki, nanook(formerly SRG) <- any of those would be a good bet for hitting scum, I think. Not maxous. Not edmund.

You're wrong.

Do you agree with Hiraki? Which part of his post is wrong?

[GreyICE]

First: hiraki?

Second: not voting max

[pappums rat]

Hey everyone I'm sorry about this but I have asked Neruz to replace me. I dont have any motivation to play mafia ATM and I need to spend some time away from it.

[Zdenek]

Huh? What about Day 1 gave you the idea I would rather avoid 'major wagons'?

The fact that you weren't on either of them at the end of the day - which is exactly the reason that empking doesn't want to lynch you. Just die.

Mod: I'm moving and I'll be V/LA until Tuesday. If things go well, I'll be back sooner.

[vezokpiraka]

YAY.

Everyone is V/LA. Or replacing out.

[sorgster]

YAY.

Everyone is V/LA. Or replacing out.

Why do you never post much other than fluff?

[CSL]

I have a very strong gut town read on vezok right now.

[sorgster]

I got a gut SK read on him, not sure why.

[zMuffinMan]

OMG I AGREE WITH HIRAKI.

We can be I-think-hiraki-is-scum brothers.

Hi5

First: hiraki?

Yes.

Hiraki never had a legitimate reason to be on the hiplop wagon. I'm pretty sure the only reason he was on hiplop is because it was the counterwagon to toon's that had the most chance of going through. He voted hiplop because hiplop suggested that he (hiplop) would probably live through the night, and that his play became better as the game progressed. I'm not even misconstruing anything here. I also think it's rather ironic that hiplop did end up dying N1.

Wanna know what his only mention of TF was? That TF was outrageously scummy, but that it was odd...

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@zdenek,

Hey,

Your argument makes no sense (maxous was on the hiplop wagon right up until hiplop's claim and the derphammer incident).

Can you give some reads on people who aren't town please?

[zMuffinMan]

That post made a lot more sense in my head when I wrote it.

[zMuffinMan]

this

and THIS VOTECOUNT

look at the hiplop wagon. LOOK AT IT.

[zMuffinMan]

Actually, pappums isn't scum. No way toonfighter jumped on that wagon to bus him. That was a counterwagon.

It's Hiraki or malp. hez and empking are town.

unvote

VOTE: Hiraki('s replacement?)

Or is malp easier to get a wagon on? I can do either.

[zMuffinMan]

read page 25. All of it.

[warriormode]

Alright MuffinMan I looked at page 25. And you were right. Hiraki's play was very scummy just on that page alone.

[warriormode]

Still can't join.

Basically half of the people here have joined because of paupum's "scum" rage. While pauper is scummy, my compadre muffinman has stated the difference between a paupam scum/town rage. Has no one answered? Nope.

Is Hiraki joining the wagon of opportunity? Nope.

I will say though, ICE's vote looks forced.

This post is all about giving himself Town-creed and deflecting attention to ICE. Seemed like a completely unnecessary statement for a town-person to make. pappum's only had 6 votes on him at the time so it wasn't like he was in danger of getting lynched really.

Then he makes a weak case on Hiplop later in page 25, but a lot of people did that. The most important thing on page 25...

[warriormode]

Please note that this quote is at the beginning of D2

Lewarcher is an interesting flip I did'nt see coming.
And he was nice enough to write lots of details in his catch up posts. I'll look through them later, then decide who I want to pursue.

Have you actually ISO'ed Lewarcher yet? you've had enough time to.
Now Lewarcher didn't have too many posts so...

catch up part 1

2. edmund.angles <--Very minor scum-lean.
3. PranaDevil <--Very minor town-lean.
4. hiplop <--Flip-flops, so null.
8. Uprising <--Flip-flops, but overall leans town. (So, very minorly.)
9. Torqez <--Town.
10. Maxous <---Also town.
13. Pine
14. pappums rat <--I'm guessing town.
16. Tomie Uzumaki <--Scumz.
17. Hiraki <--Null. I'll look more into this.
18. Toon Fighter <--Town.
19. SomeRandomGuy <--Very slight town-read.
20. zMuffinMan <--Also a very slight town-read.

The gaps are people who I have trouble judging the content on, so far.

^this is absolute folly. And I see no pro-town reason for doing it. But again: as someone will later say: who would take this seriously? Common! There are two possible explanation. Mastin is a VI (which I kinda think) or he is trying to end the RVS before it starts. No more than this.

@post 36: the word is quadruple.

mastin 45-54: see above.

At this point Bowser moves his vote to Tomie... at this point I would have probably moved my vote to bowser.

Uprising post 83: OMFGWITG???????? (oh my f god who is this guy?) mastin's reads were ACCURATE? here I would have moved my vote to Uprising, with much more convintion tha I would have had voting Bowser.

posts 90-91: Muffin and

MAXOUS

get town-points for this. But my vote would remain on Uprisung

SCUMBUDDY!

94-96: Tomie has a point here....

mastin 104: I have played with some of the biggest VI'S sitewise, and still I never get used to it. This post makes me wanna se mastin hang regardless from his alignment.

Prana 106: this sounds like town-Prana to me...

mastin2 111: ok, look, I am starting to think joining this game was not a good idea...

now tell me exactly what your torquez town-read was based on

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post 130: I am liking this malpascp person.

uprising 132: why not? What is wrong with it?

How do you scumhunt without hypothesiosing connectins?

My vote would still be here.

pine 138-139: I know how you play scum and I will not allow you to use your short posts in which you do not explain the reasons behind your actions. You claim to have re-read.

Then explain why Tomie is scum.

Prana 144: meh... way to use 20 lines to say stuff you could say in 10 words.

hiplop 147: hiplop is wrong, muffin is right. and saying muffin is distracting town is ridiculous. Who is distracting town is mastin (prolly a town VI) and whoever tries to make cases because of his lists.

pappum's 149: I can agreee with the contents, that look town, but none of them is original/new content at this point. Null.

Hiraki 155: again: goodposting, but damn, why is everyone ignoring uprising scummy lurking?

SCUMBUDDY!

mastin 159: sneaky move. This is a sneaky move. If a player who has joined in 2011 is stupid enought to think they can play good in a large closed setup, it's their problem. The odds of getting scum are the same.

pappums 162: reasonable meta analysis.

Can someone confirm?

hiplop 182: you. need. to. post. cases.

mod 188: the brilliant result of mastin's strategy. leading wagons are mastin and tomie. Prolly both town.

Uprising 190: OMFG how come no one votes this guy????

Tomie 199: u r right about pine.

Uprising 204: oh come on!!!

Mintkitten 248: I guess this post is th ebeginning of bowser's wagon, right?

lunch break is over... the rest of my catch up will come after work.

you would think anyone who ISO'ed him would notice this post and mention it.
So why did Maxous fail to mention anything from Lewarcher? Hmmm? duh! Maxous is SCUM!

[warriormode]

and BTW Lewarcher only gives town-creed to three people in that quote.

So muffin, Hiarki is prob. scum, but Maxous is definite scum. end of story.

[NanookTheWolf]

I'm going to try and squeeze in the last 5 pages for catchup as best I can. Almost there. I'm not promising any cool wall posts though.

[edmund.angles]

I have house guest and I showing her around the city. Thought I would have more time to post but I don't:-)

V/LA until Wednesday.

[Empking]

I've cvhanged my mind of the towniness of being on a lame wagon.

Unvote, Vote: Max

[sorgster]

Unvote
Vote Maxous

Lewarcher saying maxous is town makes maxous seem scummy.