Andrius wrote:Read Blackest Night Mafia.
Tell me where I'm not making sense.
We can chase down mafioso during the day but that's what the CR wants- and he GROWS.
Every day we don't lynch him he grows more powerful. More cultists behind his call.
I'm saying we go for the CR.
Now.
Because BNM should have been a town victory.
BRIGHTEST DAY WILL BE THAT TOWN VICTORY.
NO BULLSHIT WITH NOT ENOUGH LYNCHES- THEY GAVE US THAT (lol_broken but still).
Aren't we trying to go after CR? Is there anyone that isn't? The fact that the Cult Cop is dead is 10x more reason to go after the CR instead of mafia (besides the fact that 2/3 lynches we've killed a mafia indicates we're onto a good start).
Andrius wrote:I trust BB. Usually bolded things like that in the form of "so-and-so is scum/cult/mafia/SK" are srs bsns.
So yeah I got all over it. I generally shoot/lynch people who are proven cult/mafia/SK/scum.
So yeah calling for a then-outed cultbag to get shot isn't that appalling.
BLACKBERRY DIDNT CLAIM ANYTHING.
Something that both you and the one-half-of-me-that-isn't-me seemed to have missed.
Andrius wrote:I TOOK IT AS A GUILTY, MAGUA, IF THAT WASN'T PLAIN AND APPARENT.
He didn't say "BAD FEELING" he said "friend was culted last night" which sounds alot like solid info to me, Magua.
Yes. You saw bold and you were all like "I should definitely vote on that without reading the rest of the message." WHICH APPARENTLY MY OTHER HEAD DID AS WELL.
YOU CAN SEE WHY I'M UPSET.
Anyways.
If you think we're cult, vote us. We're not going to stop you, and I, if not we, am interested in seeing the people who are willing to put their money where their mouth is.
FRIEND, DO NOT CLAIM. DO NOT FUCKING CLAIM.
Someone claims when they're about to be lynched. Not beforehand. Beforehand claiming is what the cult wants. Not what the town wants.
Well, that's a really good point you made
I'm town
there, and I'm going to give it a good mulling over
A) Only one person (Andrius) asked Friend to claim
B) Friend isn't anywhere near lynch
C) Friend was accused of being a Cult Recruit, meaning he would have a legitimate claim before he was recruited
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All that being said, I'm really curious as to why Friend even said "I'LL CLAIM" with barely any reason to. Unless he feels guilt. Do you feel guilt and pressure Friend?
Blackberry is either antitown, and so you claiming would be what he wants, or he's town who's honestly trying to scumhunt. His method and delivery of his thoughts is suspicious, but he is definitely not worth claiming to.
Well, that's a really good point you made
I'm town
there, and I'm going to give it a good mulling over
Also, why does Mr. S think I want Friend to claim. I clearly just said if he is a cult recruit he would already have a legitimate claim to claim. Him wanting to claim unprovoked (not near lynch, only one person asking for it) seems strange to me.
Now I get accused for participating and 'distracting from a lynch'. I don't think I'm distracting from anything when we're still waiting for a claim and Mr. S is doing things that don't make sense. The only people that would want the lynch to hurry up are: Cult who want to get to night to recruit (if lynchee isn't Cult), Mafia if they know lynchee isn't mafia... both of which are anti-town.
FRIEND - do you have any particular reason to think the lynchee is a CR and that I'm distracting from it?
FRIEND - answer my other question.
Andy wrote:Nik we don't have to wait.
Waiting killed the town in BNM.
You don't have to be afraid of the night.
We've made it through the Blackest Night.
a) We'd be MCing on day three. That's plenty early for a MC.
b) BNM wasn't double-day.
c) We don't have time for a MC right now. We have eight days until deadline. I guarantee that if we try to MC now, we'll end up NLing. Guaranfuckingteed.
d) You guys lost Blackest Night because I wasn't there so stfu.
Blackberry wrote:Answer the question I asked friend.
What does "If I claim it will be anti-town" mean?
I don't care and I don't want to know. Friend is 100% not scum or cult recruiter. His claim could be Hated Miller Townie Beautiful Princess Auto-Hammerer and I wouldn't care because he is not scum and he is not the recruiter.
Well, that's a really good point you made
I'm town
there, and I'm going to give it a good mulling over
Basically, the amount of time it took to string up MC and the # of active players doesn't make sense. Obviously Cult recruited an active/town-like player (thinking about it, it could be Nikanor as well, though one might suspect Nikanor may die).
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In fact, thinking about it some more, my gut says Nikanor would be a good Cult Recruiter. Mafia, I'd kill Nikanor tonight if you want to eliminate Cult. Because the town aren't going to lynch him and then before you know it the Cult will pwn you. Think about it, CR wants to do something DAY 1 to avoid being a target the entire game, so he fakes a cop gambit to make himself seem town. (Just an idea that came to mind, I have no idea if it's likely or not, LOL).
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Anyways, my original theory had to do with all the active players (likely cult recruits) being on MC.
However, the following players aren't on MC: ToastyToast ... Err, I think there is at least a few more, I was basing it on who was on the first 2 lynches (i.e., active players who kept up with what was going on).
Plus, I think if MC was CR someone would have done something by now to throw it off of MC and onto someone else. And being as I'm the only one who is doing anything close to that, I don't think MC is cult. And the more I thought about it, I could see a cult recruit voting their CR early on the wagon under the presumption that it wasn't going to pile up. I know I've done things like that before as scum but I got yelled at and people acted like they'd never do that as scum (during a 5-player kill the godfather game). Also, Mr. S was quick to switch off MC, so it's another possibility of CR-Recrutee partnership right there, I guess, but Mr. S wouldn't have let MC get this far and then continue to push for his lynch.
nopoint is another example of a possible deflection of the GW wagon. He was on the mafia wagon, so I suppose he is a *potential* recruit for culters. I.e., another example of why my original theory is NVM.
