Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Flameaxe]

Saw a post that indicates xvart and Flameaxe weren't on the same team yesterday. The one where he votes him over quite a legitimate reason.

So now that my memory's refreshed I'm definitely set on Flameaxe.

Just curious as "A post indicated xvart and Flameaxe weren't on the same team" goes to "Flameaxe is scum". Hefty logic jump is hefty!

(Lets not even mention the last post you made yesterday had a top three including *shocker* both xvart and myself).

Vote: Cobble

, for overall crappy posts towards the end of yesterday in addition to everything else I've said in my iso.

I believe that was his first post of toDay.

Point taken. That makes it worse in my eyes though.

[Yosarian2]

Okay, I know this was a stupid thing.
However, what would you think when the only thing you saw in a post was "

Vote: Zdenek

", not having read his next-to-latest post that he would quickhammer in a couple of hours and checking the votecount if a lynch occured? That'd say quick-lynch to me.

(shrug) Again, I can understand that being a product of you skimming.

It dosn't deal with the bigger issue, though. You were voting for Zdenek at the time, and someone came in and hammered. I would think your first thought would at least include some hope that the guy you were voting for would flip scum, but it seemed like you already knew he wouldn't from the way you were attacking ML for hammering.

[Magister Ludi]

It gets worse, since I first mentioned of hammering on Aug 10, with no response from ConSpiracy, then again the evening of Aug 13, still no response and then only the next morning did I finally hammer.

He was skimming for a long time, but only got militant when I actually did hammer. Thats not how I would expect town to react.

[ConSpiracy]

Okay, I know this was a stupid thing.
However, what would you think when the only thing you saw in a post was "

Vote: Zdenek

", not having read his next-to-latest post that he would quickhammer in a couple of hours and checking the votecount if a lynch occured? That'd say quick-lynch to me.

(shrug) Again, I can understand that being a product of you skimming.

It dosn't deal with the bigger issue, though. You were voting for Zdenek at the time, and someone came in and hammered. I would think your first thought would at least include some hope that the guy you were voting for would flip scum, but it seemed like you already knew he wouldn't from the way you were attacking ML for hammering.

I thought he was scum, but a quickhammer usually is from scum on town. A quickhammer on scum doesn't make any sense.

It gets worse, since I first mentioned of hammering on Aug 10, with no response from ConSpiracy, then again the evening of Aug 13, still no response and then only the next morning did I finally hammer.

He was skimming for a long time, but only got militant when I actually did hammer. Thats not how I would expect town to react.

I indeed skimmed for a long time.
To be honest, I am losing interest in mafia. I suck at the game and am not improving in it. That's why I have been neglecting my games (not just this one, all of my games I am skimming) and skimming the text. Especially the ones that explodes with posts, such as this one.

[xvart]

The problem with Nobody Special is that he almost certainly did target Yos2 because he provided the flavor of not finding him before either Yos2 or ML confirmed it happened which would be risky since ML was playing with the idea of not protecting him. The point is that as cult this would have to have been a collective decision and I don't see any group of cult members thinking that was a good idea.

[Battousai]

ML- If town has a pertinent role, we would have heard it. But I'm not interested in that right now. I want to know the unclaimed roles as cult could be among the unclaimed.

Yos- Fucking claim or give me a reason not to and stop ignoring me
Flameaxe- Fucking claim or give me a reason not to and stop ignoring me
Anyone else who hasn't claimed- Claim!

[Flameaxe]

I'm still not claiming. What am I ignoring?

[Herodotus]

I don't really get why Hero hasn't claimed results in like 4 days or something like that now. He's out as a cop, and it's not like confirmed innocents "keep" that long in a cult game.

I didn't claim cop, only that I was able to make at least one investigation and took unblocked actions on nights 2 and 3. I was in fact considering claiming more role information today. I want to get an answer to a question before I do that. Also, if anyone prefers I not claim, say so.

The problem with Nobody Special is that he almost certainly did target Yos2 because he provided the flavor of not finding him before either Yos2 or ML confirmed it happened which would be risky since ML was playing with the idea of not protecting him. The point is that as cult this would have to have been a collective decision and I don't see any group of cult members thinking that was a good idea.

Nobody Special had targeted Yos2 on night 1, and would have seen the 404 then, but your point is still correct.

@Nobody Special: Has the mod sent you any PM's during this game that referred to any sort of private entertainment? (This is not intended as a quote.)

[Amrun]

Having pretty serious technical diFficulties; will last at most until the 27th. Note the v/la banner.

I WILL be posting within that timeframe but when and how I can't quite predict.

I've been struggling the last few days and finally the technology demons havef ully latched on.

ConSpiracy obvscum; all else bunk.

[Battousai]

I'm still not claiming. What am I ignoring?

When I say claim, you say nothing. That's ignoring. Saying, "I'm not claiming because x,y,z is not ignoring." I'm not letting this claim drop without good reason why it should. Not claiming is making me paranoid, as scum could easily be using their powers for evil and not claiming is what is keeping them safe-ish.

Speaking of which, why aren't you claiming today?

[Flameaxe]

I'm not claiming because there is no town benefit to do so.

[Flameaxe]

From my perspective, I should say. I don't see any benefit to claiming.

[Kinetic]

Hey, so, do you guys want to just surrender to me yet?

[Nobody Special]

@Nobody Special: Has the mod sent you any PM's during this game that referred to any sort of private entertainment? (This is not intended as a quote.)

Yes. Now, tell me what made you ask this, please.

[Yosarian2]

Yos- Fucking claim or give me a reason not to and stop ignoring me

Dude, chill out.

I don't see any special reason why I should claim today. If I had any information that would help the town lynch scum today, I would claim. But of course I don't, and couldn't no matter what my role was.

(shrug) If people really want me to claim, I will; no real harm in it now that almost everyone else foolishly has. No real gain to the town from me doing it either, though.

[Battousai]

Flameaxe/Yos- Ya... and if you are scum, then there is scum gain, which is what I'm trying to eliminate.

The thing is, IF you are town, there is no gain. What it does is takes the chance that if you are scum, there will be negative gain.

Vote: Flameaxe

until you claim.

Yos- I want you to claim, so that's 1 down.
Flameaxe- Why is there no town benefit to do so? Yesterday you were all happy for everyone to claim, until someone said they didn't want to. Well now if Yos claims, I don't see why you wouldn't.

[Mr. Flay]

First Vote Count of Day Six:

Cobblerfone - 1 (Flameaxe)
ConSpiracy - 1 (Magister Ludi)
Nobody Special - 1 (ConSpiracy)
Flameaxe - 1 (Battousai)

Not Voting - Amrun, Bunnylover, bvoigt, Cobblerfone, Herodotus, Lady Lambdadelta, Nobody Special, xvart, Yosarian2

With thirteen voters present, it will take seven to lynch.

[Cobblerfone]

Just curious as "A post indicated xvart and Flameaxe weren't on the same team" goes to "Flameaxe is scum". Hefty logic jump is hefty! (Lets not even mention the last post you made yesterday had a top three including *shocker* both xvart and myself).

Vote: Cobble, for overall crappy posts towards the end of yesterday in addition to everything else I've said in my iso.

I said I was rereading his interactions in that post. But then of course you would ignore that. Flameaxe is scummier.

[Flameaxe]

There's nothing to ignore, you put him in a top 3 list...Keep spouting how I'm scummy without actually putting any backing or reasoning behind it (no, "he hasn't been voted" doesn't count). It's pretty cute.

@Batt: I changed my mind. Through Yos' refusal, I realized I didn't have any benefit to claim. The only benefit to claiming in a game like this is to get information out, if I had information, I would have claimed it. I said this yesterday, almost exactly the same thing.

[Magister Ludi]

Cobble, can you explain why you think Flameaxe is a better lynch choice than ConSpiracy?

[bvoigt]

Oh hai. I cult docced Cobbler last night. :3

Why Cobbler? Also, not to be pushy, but I still want an answer to my question from yesterday.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh hai. I cult docced Cobbler last night. :3

Why Cobbler? Also, not to be pushy, but I still want an answer to my question from yesterday.

Because I cult docced him the night before. Probabilities etc.

My flavor name for the cult protect is "Free Advice". Is that what you're looking for? Or are you wanting the name of the ability that is hyperlinked?

[Herodotus]

I was roleblocked on nights 4 and 5, and it wasn't entertainment-based. That should rule out flameaxe as the scum RB.

There are some encouraging things about my having been roleblocked.
One is that I don't think Kinetic can recruit any more, or he would have blocked a recruitment doctor. He had up to four chances to recruit before this started, so I think we're down to 10 vs. 4, or 11 vs. 3.
Another is the flavour information that I will consider. I don't see any reason not to reveal it, as the RB probably has access to it.

[bvoigt]

Oh hai. I cult docced Cobbler last night. :3

Why Cobbler? Also, not to be pushy, but I still want an answer to my question from yesterday.

Because I cult docced him the night before. Probabilities etc.

My flavor name for the cult protect is "Free Advice". Is that what you're looking for? Or are you wanting the name of the ability that is hyperlinked?

Oh, I forgot about that.

That is not the same flavor name that I have; however, I can see you said the same thing earlier, and I'm still inclined to believe it. Might as well do the hyperlinked ability as well.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The hyperlinked name is "Cult Doctor".