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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:09 am

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On second thought don't even bother putting yourselves on your own lists. It isn't necessary.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:23 am

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Honest Abel wrote:DC, why are you not last on your own list? That is retarded. Please redo it. Putting yourself anyone other than last on your own list is saying that you want to be able to claim before scum, which makes no sense.

Actually I thought it'd be interesting to see if IAI claims cop in the end, considering he is the one who suggested the whole thing. I personally think we don't really have a cop, but that's just a guess.

Honest Abel wrote:On second thought don't even bother putting yourselves on your own lists. It isn't necessary.

TBH that was my initial thinking as well.

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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:34 am

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Vote Count 3.9

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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:42 am

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My list is in my first post on the subject, so I won't be reposting it. I forget, are we claiming today if we do it this way, or still tomorrow? If tomorrow, maybe we should hold of until then to do it since people's opinions may change.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:51 am

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Honest Abel wrote:My list is in my first post on the subject, so I won't be reposting it. I forget, are we claiming today if we do it this way, or still tomorrow? If tomorrow, maybe we should hold of until then to do it since people's opinions may change.

Wasn't the plan that only cop claims today? Though we haven't got everyone's opinion on the matter yet...
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:21 am

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Actually, I don't know. Cop claiming today means he might be the target tonight. And it would mean pressuring NS to protect a particular person or otherwise risk losing probably our best bet at a win. Jeopardizing the cop when he could still return results tonight might not be a good idea.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:57 am

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Honest Abel wrote:Actually, I don't know. Cop claiming today means he might be the target tonight. And it would mean pressuring NS to protect a particular person or otherwise risk losing probably our best bet at a win. Jeopardizing the cop when he could still return results tonight might not be a good idea.

The Jailer can clear a player as much as cop can in this situation. If someone is jailed and cop dies, then the jailed person is clear. I think cop claim could help us a lot right now, especially if he investigated you. Because as IAI said, there is a technical problem with you being alive and NS's claim.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:15 am

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DarkClaymore wrote:The Jailer can clear a player as much as cop can in this situation. If someone is jailed and cop dies, then the jailed person is clear. I think cop claim could help us a lot right now, especially if he investigated you. Because as IAI said, there is a technical problem with you being alive and NS's claim.
A JK cannot clear a player as much as a cop can. JK could jail someone, and if there's no nightkill, that player was either targeted or is scum. It's not as definitive as a cop. Cop can investigate me if he wants, but will he be alive to tell us if he claims? Maybe not.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:59 pm

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screw that noise. let's inform the minority.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:58 pm

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In trying to think of another "win" strategy, something else crossed my mind (though it's unlikely that it could be true). This is a potential scenario where his JK claim could be bullshit:

Cavjj was the mafia goon, which means his partner was the rolecop. The rolecop has had two opportunities to take action: N1 and N2. If NS had two successful PR investigations (by luck), he would then know if there was a cop and if there was a doctor. Assuming he got both of those spot on, he would then know that there's no chance of being a JK, thus his claim allows him to move freely as psuedo-JK.

It's quite possible then (in this scenario), that the doctor saved the right person during N2. Heh, it also means that our cop knows two innocent townies. It also means, that NS could've found out who the cop was on N1 and tried to have him lynched on D2 (something to look into?). Finally, it also means that the doctor protected the cop during N2, because NS would've nightkilled the cop.

I don't know, its a bit heavy to think about. It implies that NS lynched his own scumpartner -- which is really what derails this scenario.

lot's of "it also means"...
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:08 pm

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Why isn't whilst lynched yet?
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:19 pm

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let's go people, chop chop.
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:00 pm

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Honest Abel wrote:Why isn't whilst lynched yet?
....what?



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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:01 pm

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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:10 pm

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i can accept whilst.
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:12 pm

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VOTE: whilst
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:41 pm

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Nobody Special wrote:
Honest Abel wrote:Why isn't whilst lynched yet?


Any thoughts on the Cop claiming D3? Why is it a good idea / bad idea?

Same questions @ Dicknose as well.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:00 am

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dicknose wrote:i can accept whilst.


This sounds very convincing. Is whilst your #1 suspect?
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:12 am

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i don't know and no
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:17 am

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can a scum both roleblock and kill iin q singke night in newb games?
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:53 am

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Scum doesn't roleblock, they rolecop. They can do both simultaneously in a newb game, yes.
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:07 am

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I'm actually going to
UNVOTE: whilst
because I want to interrogate him about some of the things he said during the cavjj claim before I commit to a lynch. It bothers me that he hasn't really said anything in defense of himself about that episode and I want to force him to talk.

I will be asking questions by the end of the day today. whilst, feel free to start explaining yourself in the meantime if you want.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:48 am

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to specify, i don't know any pros or cons that haven't been already stated. if we have another power role it can help us narrow the field, so i'm in favor of claim either now or first thing tomorrow.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:51 am

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dicknose, who is your #1 suspect?
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:14 am

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I suppose you and whilst are my top two.
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