Scummies 2011 Nominations
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Lord Gurgi Mostly Harmless
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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zoraster wrote:I actually agree with Fate. Self-noms feel a bit cheap. Get a friend to nominate you.
hey does anybody want to nominate me for best performance in a losing cause for this game
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Vi Professor Paragon
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I know.Lord Gurgi wrote:Why the anger, Vi? You've been done more than one good turn by the scummies.
I'm not angry, actually. I've just had things to think about while I've whiled the hours away more-or-less single-handedly making the wiki something that isn't embarrassing to look at in places.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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zoraster He/HimDisorganized CrimeHe/Him
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Vi wrote:
In this post you described the problem with your solution.zoraster wrote:I actually agree with Fate. Self-noms feel a bit cheap. Get a friend to nominate you. I would have been happy to nominate Vi as I think he deserves a nomination for it,but I guess the thought never crossed my mind for some reason.
Tell you what, Vi. Let's do this right. You delete your nomination and we'll act like it never happened. In a week or two or three someone's going to come in and nominate you for your hard work. That way it won't have to say Vi nominated byVi
If you feel I deserve the nomination, make it now. I wouldn't have made the self-nomination if I didn't think I didover and beyondwhat would be necessary to be worthy of it.
Oh, and Fate. Remember when ReaperCharlie and whoeverelseitwas tried to nominate me/us for the same project and Iturned it downuntil we had actually done something?
As an aside, I agree that it should be Name/Orange; I have no idea why the original award is in Prof. Mafia.
It's the problem with the scummies in general. I think a lot of things that ought to be nominated aren't. Whenever I moderate a game I think to myself "was there someone who deserves a nomination for this?" to try and prevent it, but that obviously only works for the immediate games I'm moderating. (It also means that games that I moderate are disproportionately represented.)
I digress. I guess to me it's that the scummies are about the appreciation of others. I think it's obvious you deserve a scummy nomination for your work, but to me a self-nomination cheapens it some... It's like any compliment. "You look great" sounds better when it's not preceeded by "I look great, don't I?"
But if you really don't care about that, that's fine with me. A nomination is a nomination in the end it's about who wins it.
2nd Vi's nomination.-
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Fate :HAPPY:
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Vi, clearly you DESERVE the award for all your effort, and I never implied that your self-nomination was out of line becauseyou didn't deserve it,but that it is just classless and sets a horrible precedent.
Because all this thread needs is every etc., etc. and etc. who thinks they did something awesome nominating themselves and clogging down the committee with hundreds of games.
Basically Zoraster nailed everything.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
"Fate you keep alternating between narratives of doing it for fun and doing it for the sake of winning"-
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Vi Professor Paragon
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And I agree with you. I wouldn't do this for anything play-related, because I don't know what other people are doing there and I don't assume I'm that great anyway. But I do know what's going on with the wiki, and made the judgment based on that.Fate wrote:Vi, clearly you DESERVE the award for all your effort, and I never implied that your self-nomination was out of line becauseyou didn't deserve it,but that it is just classless and sets a horrible precedent.
Because all this thread needs is every etc., etc. and etc. who thinks they did something awesome nominating themselves and clogging down the committee with hundreds of games.
Basically Zoraster nailed everything.
Is it classless? Yes. Is this out of character? I hope so. Is it warranted? Nobody has disagreed so far.
As for it being a precedent, remember who nominated Glork for PoMH in the last cycle.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
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Nominate Surye forbest SKfor this. For winning as a Serial Killer and not being reliant on the non-killing abilities.Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi-
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dramonic Survivor
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Vi wrote:As for it being a precedent, remember who nominated Glork for PoMH in the last cycle.
But officer, Danny raped a girl too so it's okay!I'm a hoot
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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dramonic wrote:Vi wrote:As for it being a precedent, remember who nominated Glork for PoMH in the last cycle.
But officer, Danny raped a girl too so it's okay!
Glork didn't actually self-nominate, for what it's worth. I slightly incited his rage during a Large Normal where he came out and said "I SHOULD BE PARAGON" and UK eventually nommed him for it.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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Faraday ...should I be here?
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DemonHybrid And Another Thing...
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Faraday wrote:No self nominations.
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Vi, I really respect you a lot, but I would never Nth that nom. This has been a site-wide expectation and no one is exempt, no matter who it is.
No one who says "But it's Vi! Nth" really pays attention to the integrity of this site, ever. Don't say that you do, because you don't.-
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Vi wrote:
In this post you described the problem with your solution.zoraster wrote:I actually agree with Fate. Self-noms feel a bit cheap. Get a friend to nominate you. I would have been happy to nominate Vi as I think he deserves a nomination for it,but I guess the thought never crossed my mind for some reason.
Tell you what, Vi. Let's do this right. You delete your nomination and we'll act like it never happened. In a week or two or three someone's going to come in and nominate you for your hard work. That way it won't have to say Vi nominated byVi
If you feel I deserve the nomination, make it now. I wouldn't have made the self-nomination if I didn't think I didover and beyondwhat would be necessary to be worthy of it.
Oh, and Fate. Remember when ReaperCharlie and whoeverelseitwas tried to nominate me/us for the same project and Iturned it downuntil we had actually done something?
As an aside, I agree that it should be Name/Orange; I have no idea why the original award is in Prof. Mafia.
/shake head
There are plenty of people who do things that they feel they should be recognized for.
For example, I really want Smooth Operator for this. I worked my fucking ass off for it. For days, I would check my phone, sleep late, wake up early to make sure I got prods and votecounts out. When I modkilled jindori, I cringed. When I modkilled gorilla, I felt a bit sick. And both modkills took hours of deliberating. I put a shitload of pride into my modding.
Know what? I never even thought of nominating myself for Smooth Operator; luckily, AGar saw that I was fit for it and nominated me. Why can't you do the same? It keeps the site integrity.
Also, I wouldn't call your self-nomination low, but I WILL call your attempt to justify it based on past selfless actions as EXTREMELY LOW.
PEdit: Regardless of whether you meant it or not, I agree with it.-
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singersigner I Got This
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DemonHybrid wrote:/shake head
There are plenty of people who do things that they feel they should be recognized for.
For example, I really want Smooth Operator for this. I worked my fucking ass off for it. For days, I would check my phone, sleep late, wake up early to make sure I got prods and votecounts out. When I modkilled jindori, I cringed. When I modkilled gorilla, I felt a bit sick. And both modkills took hours of deliberating. I put a shitload of pride into my modding.
Know what? I never even thought of nominating myself for Smooth Operator; luckily, AGar saw that I was fit for it and nominated me. Why can't you do the same? It keeps the site integrity.
Shameless plug, I see.-
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By the way, this is a silly argument. No, someone who already has three scummies probably shouldn't be nominating themselves foryet anotherscummy, but if that's the president Vi's decided to set for herself and her reputation on this site, then so be it. Doesn't make her games or her contributions any less recognizable.-
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Vi Professor Paragon
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Good to know I'm famous.Faraday wrote:I just explained on radioscum I've actually no problem with self noms.
I acknowledge I made a poor decision. Socially speaking, it's too late to take it back, so do as you will. You do have the ability to deny the nomination.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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singersigner wrote:DemonHybrid wrote:/shake head
There are plenty of people who do things that they feel they should be recognized for.
For example, I really want Smooth Operator for this. I worked my fucking ass off for it. For days, I would check my phone, sleep late, wake up early to make sure I got prods and votecounts out. When I modkilled jindori, I cringed. When I modkilled gorilla, I felt a bit sick. And both modkills took hours of deliberating. I put a shitload of pride into my modding.
Know what? I never even thought of nominating myself for Smooth Operator; luckily, AGar saw that I was fit for it and nominated me. Why can't you do the same? It keeps the site integrity.
Shameless plug, I see.
Or an example that both you and I know very well, because you know how much effort I put into my modding, and personally, I think it shows. But I would never in a million years self-nom it, and I think since it'salready nominated, I feel that it's safe to talk about. My two cents.
Vi: Thanks for recognizing. I'm not putting you down, just stating how I feel. <3
I won't deny or anti-nom it.-
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singersigner wrote:Ok. Let's try this:
I nominate Vi for the Name in Orange thing based off of this reasoning.
If you think she doesn't deserve it now because she tried to nominate herself, don't second, third, nth it.
She's already nominated for Professor Mafia.
2nd.-
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Vi Professor Paragon
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After the grief I give people on a regular basis, I have no room to be offended.~DemonHybrid wrote:Vi: Thanks for recognizing. I'm not putting you down, just stating how I feel. <3Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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Slaxx wrote:Faraday wrote:I was trolling, I just explained on radioscum I've actually no problem with self noms.
Lol poor Demon.
He was sarcastic. I wasn't.-
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