Open 325: Paris Mafia III - Game Over


User avatar
Wickedestjr
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5212
Joined: December 27, 2008
Location: UTC-5

Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:40 am

Post by Wickedestjr »

Votecount 1.8:


kondi2424 - [3] - Hoppster, whispersilk, Empking

Empking - [2] - Maruchan, scooby
No Lynch - [2] - kondi2424, kanyeknowsbest
Maruchan - [1] - milkshake
kanyeknowsbest - [1] - xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx - [1] - racerman13

Not Voting - [1] - hahonryuu

The lynch candidate in
red
text is the player that would be lynched if deadline hit right now.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or 6 to no-lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2011-09-02 12:55:58)
Last edited by Wickedestjr on Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:32 pm, edited 3 times in total.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr
User avatar
kondi2424
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
kondi2424
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6350
Joined: February 12, 2011
Location: Texas

Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:40 am

Post by kondi2424 »

Empking wrote:The mimes don't care about being outted if the Vig is neutored.

Them outted = scumkill.

No further discussion on this particular subject; I see a plan Town can use later.
Show
"
He's saying your an idiot redff
" - theamatuer

"
Also, kondi may not be scum anymore. I'll check with my die.
" - vijay2vasandani

Town: 10-22
Scum: 11-3
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
User avatar
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
mafi ascum
Posts: 7693
Joined: November 26, 2008
Location: dtla

Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:41 am

Post by kanyeknowsbest »

scum wont shoot the mimes. its in their favor to leave the mimes alive for wifom.
add me on snapchat and vine and twitter and instagram : ]
User avatar
xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx
GD is my Best Man
User avatar
User avatar
xRECKONERx
GD is my Best Man
GD is my Best Man
Posts: 26087
Joined: March 15, 2009

Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:44 am

Post by xRECKONERx »

What happens if vig & scum are dead and it's only town & mimes left? Mimes auto-win?
green shirt thursdays
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
User avatar
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
mafi ascum
Posts: 7693
Joined: November 26, 2008
Location: dtla

Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:44 am

Post by kanyeknowsbest »

town wins once scum are dead
add me on snapchat and vine and twitter and instagram : ]
User avatar
Empking
Empking
Empking's Alt's Alt
User avatar
User avatar
Empking
Empking's Alt's Alt
Empking's Alt's Alt
Posts: 16758
Joined: May 4, 2008

Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:46 am

Post by Empking »

kanyeknowsbest wrote:mimes should still care about being outed. no one will lynch an outed mime.


Not true. Read the first Paris.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
User avatar
xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx
GD is my Best Man
User avatar
User avatar
xRECKONERx
GD is my Best Man
GD is my Best Man
Posts: 26087
Joined: March 15, 2009

Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:47 am

Post by xRECKONERx »

I support no lynching until either a) the mimes die, or b) the vig dies.

Vote: No Lynch
green shirt thursdays
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
User avatar
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
mafi ascum
Posts: 7693
Joined: November 26, 2008
Location: dtla

Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:49 am

Post by kanyeknowsbest »

Empking wrote:
kanyeknowsbest wrote:mimes should still care about being outed. no one will lynch an outed mime.


Not true. Read the first Paris.

fair enough. imho optimal scum play is leaving them alive until killing them would give them a majority.
add me on snapchat and vine and twitter and instagram : ]
User avatar
xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx
GD is my Best Man
User avatar
User avatar
xRECKONERx
GD is my Best Man
GD is my Best Man
Posts: 26087
Joined: March 15, 2009

Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:52 am

Post by xRECKONERx »

Empking wrote:
kanyeknowsbest wrote:mimes should still care about being outed. no one will lynch an outed mime.


Not true. Read the first Paris.

link?
green shirt thursdays
User avatar
Empking
Empking
Empking's Alt's Alt
User avatar
User avatar
Empking
Empking's Alt's Alt
Empking's Alt's Alt
Posts: 16758
Joined: May 4, 2008

Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:54 am

Post by Empking »

Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5212
Joined: December 27, 2008
Location: UTC-5

Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:56 am

Post by Wickedestjr »

xRECKONERx wrote:What happens if vig & scum are dead and it's only town & mimes left? Mimes auto-win?

In this situation the town would win, because the mafia would be eliminated. In general, the faction that acheives their win condition first wins.
Last edited by Wickedestjr on Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr
User avatar
xRECKONERx
xRECKONERx
GD is my Best Man
User avatar
User avatar
xRECKONERx
GD is my Best Man
GD is my Best Man
Posts: 26087
Joined: March 15, 2009

Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:57 am

Post by xRECKONERx »

xRECKONERx wrote:I support no lynching until either a) the mimes die, or b) the vig dies.

Vote: No Lynch

K, I stand by this
green shirt thursdays
racerman13
racerman13
Goon
racerman13
Goon
Goon
Posts: 300
Joined: May 22, 2011

Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:01 am

Post by racerman13 »

hahonryuu wrote:racer: i would bet my left nut he's mime...or bad mafia


OH JESUS I JUST WON A THIRD BALL :D :D

Sorry, this comment jumped out on me. Will post content in a bit.
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
User avatar
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
mafi ascum
Posts: 7693
Joined: November 26, 2008
Location: dtla

Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:53 pm

Post by kanyeknowsbest »

racerman wheres your no lynch vote or opinion against it?
add me on snapchat and vine and twitter and instagram : ]
racerman13
racerman13
Goon
racerman13
Goon
Goon
Posts: 300
Joined: May 22, 2011

Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:58 pm

Post by racerman13 »

Uh...I don't think we should NL Day 1. Even if we hit a mime, there is another mime.
User avatar
Empking
Empking
Empking's Alt's Alt
User avatar
User avatar
Empking
Empking's Alt's Alt
Empking's Alt's Alt
Posts: 16758
Joined: May 4, 2008

Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:07 pm

Post by Empking »

racerman13 wrote:Uh...I don't think we should NL Day 1. Even if we hit a mime, there is another mime.


They die if one of them is night killed.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
User avatar
User avatar
kanyeknowsbest
mafi ascum
mafi ascum
Posts: 7693
Joined: November 26, 2008
Location: dtla

Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:11 pm

Post by kanyeknowsbest »

thats really convenient that you promise to post content, then after disappearing again you show up the moment i ask you about no lynch. whats your opinion on reckoner and maruchan, buddy? also consider what empking just clarified - do you still think no lynch is a bad idea?
add me on snapchat and vine and twitter and instagram : ]
User avatar
Maruchan
Maruchan
she/her
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Maruchan
she/her
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5094
Joined: July 5, 2011
Pronoun: she/her
Location: Blacksburg, VA

Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:20 pm

Post by Maruchan »

Now that yo uguys have clarifies it and all, if we honestly think there is better chances of town winning with a NL N1, then
No Lynch
Show
Returning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
9 player Purgatory coming to the Open Queue Soon!
Join Now!

Micro Grand Idea uPick coming to the micro queue soon!
User avatar
Maruchan
Maruchan
she/her
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Maruchan
she/her
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5094
Joined: July 5, 2011
Pronoun: she/her
Location: Blacksburg, VA

Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:30 pm

Post by Maruchan »

Vote: No Lynch
is what I meant to say
Show
Returning to modding after a nearly two year hiatus!
9 player Purgatory coming to the Open Queue Soon!
Join Now!

Micro Grand Idea uPick coming to the micro queue soon!
User avatar
milkshake
milkshake
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
milkshake
Goon
Goon
Posts: 783
Joined: March 30, 2006

Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:43 pm

Post by milkshake »

Regarding xReckonerx: It will be fantastically easy to reconsider him day 2 or whenver there aren't any mimes. All we need to do is vig a mime tonight (not hard as far as I'm concerned), then we can proceed totally free of mimes and wifomyness. It will be much better.

I don't buy Maru mime- do people pull the "I'm depressed with forum mafia and I want to die" routine when they don't mean it? Especially since it doesn't of itself invite lynching. I honestly am now changing my mind: I think it might be genuine and Maru could be town.

---

Here's one way to look at the logic for nolynching, this time under the assumption that racerman13 is a mime:

There's lynch/mafiakill/mimesdie which takes us to 7p, then lynch/mafiakill/vig down to 4p. 4p is pretty awkward, and getting to 5p by skipping a kill (novig or nolynch) won't help. In 4p we only get one more town directed kill (in 3p the next day after nolynching), in 5p we've just delayed our kill a little bit for a slight benefit. That's
4
towndirected kills.

The no lynch alternative is nolynch/mafiakill/mimes die down to 8p, then lynch/mafiakill/vig to 5p, then lynch/mafiakill to 3p, then lynch.
Important:
This option is much better! It is also
4
town directed kills but they happen
later
with fewer targets. (Fewer targets as everyone knows means a better chance of hitting mafia.)

RB and Watcher can of course come in to play but by and large they cannot change this skeleton assessment.

So: nolynching is QUITE good if we can get the mimes to die, which I believe we can.

I know I previously said that we shouldn't consider nolynching until we've already lynched one mime- that was incorrect because I did not realize we were not giving up a kill by nolynching. Combined with my newfound doubts about Maruchan, this means
unvote, vote: nolynch
.

(By the way you guys were looking at the night actions and stuff and those assessments seem good too.)
User avatar
Empking
Empking
Empking's Alt's Alt
User avatar
User avatar
Empking
Empking's Alt's Alt
Empking's Alt's Alt
Posts: 16758
Joined: May 4, 2008

Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:46 pm

Post by Empking »

I think this was a good day.

Vote: No Lynch
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5212
Joined: December 27, 2008
Location: UTC-5

Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:05 pm

Post by Wickedestjr »

Final Day 1 Votecount:


No Lynch - [6] - kondi2424, kanyeknowsbest, xRECKONERx, Maruchan, milkshake, Empking

kondi2424 - [2] - Hoppster, whispersilk
Empking - [1] - scooby
xRECKONERx - [1] - racerman13

Not Voting - [1] - hahonryuu
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5212
Joined: December 27, 2008
Location: UTC-5

Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:32 am

Post by Wickedestjr »

The town has decided to lynch nobody. It is now night 1. You
can
submit/change your night action after the 72 hours has passed as long as you have done so before I unlock the thread for day 2. Below is the deadline countdown for night 1:

Deadline: (expired on 2011-08-23 23:05:16)
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5212
Joined: December 27, 2008
Location: UTC-5

Post Post #223 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:56 pm

Post by Wickedestjr »

kanyeknowsbest, Mime, killed night 1.

milkshake, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.

Empking, Mime, removed from the game night 1.


It is now day 2. With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Go!

Deadline: (expired on 2011-09-06 23:07:20)
Last edited by Wickedestjr on Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
Wickedestjr
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 5212
Joined: December 27, 2008
Location: UTC-5

Post Post #224 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:09 pm

Post by Wickedestjr »

Bump
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr

Return to “Completed Open Games”