Okay, so originally I strongly believed that avasthearties was scum, but now, after looking at interactions and actually taking the Vifam scumflip into account, I've found stronger evidence. The remaining scum are tarsonisocelot and el simo. If I'm wrong about that, then avasthearties is almost definitely scum, but I'm pretty sure it's right. Below I've commented on all the telling interactions between Yonzy/Vifam and each of my top four suspects. I noticed a very strong connection between el simo and tarsonisocelot but I'll get to that later. I've made you guys wait long enough and it's time for me to post what I have, now.
Vifam/Yonzy + avasthearties:
Firstly, avasthearties comments regarding Vifam/Yonzy. At the end of day 1 I posted a case against avasthearties which partially had to do with his
comments on vifam/Yonzy which I felt were unusual/awkward and came out of nowhere. I have no idea why he mentioned Vifam/Yonzy in the post in question unless he was scum who felt obligated to comment on his scumbuddy.
Secondly, Vifam's posts. He's shown that
he's aware of avasthearties' coasting and lack of contribution, but for some reason
he didn't think avasthearties was an option we should have directed our scumhunting towards. Vifam and avasthearties could be connected.
Yonzy defends ConfidAnon's post 35 where he votes el simo. He says:
Yonzy wrote:Imo it seemed liek a legit reason to vote El simo.. I would've done the same thing, and even if it wasn't, he had reason for his suspicion.. so there's really no need to vote him.
This sounds like somebody that knows el simo is scum and that ConfidAnon is right to vote him. Yonzy says he would've done the same thing, but he was the first player to post after el simo's supposed AtE and didn't pay any attention to it. Even after it was pointed out Yonzy doesn't vote for el simo nor does he even express suspicion of him. This is weird considering he wasn't seriously voting or suspecting anybody else (in fact, this was the same post he placed his late RVS vote
).
Secondly, Vifam said that el simo was one of the options he thought was worth looking into, however, he never (unless I missed something) interacted with el simo. This could be because he was scum, but he did interact with his other two suspects, LobsterCatapult and bobsnox.
Vifam called el simo's vote for KKN opportunistic, but there was no followup even after
el simo elaborated on the vote for KKN. You could say this was because Vifam was scum, but if that's the case, why did he get in an exchange with his other suspect, bobsnox, who was town?
Thirdly,
el simo expresses suspicion of Vifam but isn't capable of explaining why. If you read through his iso, you'll notice he never does explain which shows a lack of interest in Vifam which is odd considering all the attention Vifam was getting at the end of day 1.
Finally, I have trouble seeing the Vifam bandwagon be an all town bandwagon considering the speed of it. This was the final votecount of day 1:
Amor wrote:Day 1 Final Votecount
Vifam - 7 (Rainbowdash, ConfidAnon, YankCane151, HezLucky, HorrifyingHero, el simo, Wickedestjr)
Rainbowdash - 1 (bobsnox)
avasthearties - 1 (Kid Know Nothing)
HezLucky - 1 (Vifam)
bobsnox - 1 (avasthearties)
Not Voting - tarsonisocelot, LobsterCatapult
The people voting Vifam were... Rainbowdash, confirmed town. ConfidAnon, probably town. YankCane151, likely town. HezLucky, likely town. Horrifying Hero, likely town. Wickedestjr, confirmed town (from my perspective). That leaves el simo. So I believe either this bandwagon was all town or el simo is scum.
In conclusion, I believe there's a pretty strong connection between el simo and Vifam.
Vifam/Yonzy + LobsterCatapult
Firstly, LobsterCatapult's comments regarding Yonzy. Originally, her response to Yonzy's late/unneccessary random vote was
'lol Yonzy'. Combined with the reasoning for her 'lol Yonzy' comment which she gives
later, I get the impression that LobsterCatapult isn't Yonzy/Vifam's scumbuddy. When she does give her reasoning for the 'lol Yonzy' comment, she never does explicitly express suspicion of Yonzy- it is IIoA. IIRC, aside from myself, nobody else commented or acknowledged Yonzy's weird post prior to LobsterCatapult's acknowledgement. So LobsterCatapult didn't comment on it because she felt obligated to so the only other reason for her commenting on it was to distance herself from Yonzy. But she did a poor job of that if that was the motive. She never even expresses suspicion of Yonzy.
Next, Friend's wall post. His stance on Vifam is really weird, but I'm unable to determine the scum motive for taking such a strange stance. I'll be more specific. My main issue with Friend's wall post is that his reads don't match up with the pool of players he wouldn't mind getting lynched:
Friend wrote:Out of that group (Yonzy, avast, bobs, el simo, Rainbow), my list looks something like this from towniest to scummiest:
Bobs
el simo
Yonzy (Vifam)
Rainbow
Avast
They're all pretty scummy, TBH. None of those are town reads. Wouldn't be surprised if there were 2.
Friend wrote:TLDR:For all you lazy fucks that don't like reading, here's a pool of people that I wouldn't mind seeing get some rope:
WICKED
YANK
SIMO
BOBS
AVAST
TARSON
That's not in any particular order, but I consider everyone not on that list prob-town for the time being.
Note that, in the first quote, Friend says that Vifam is pretty scummy, but in the second list Friend doesn't put Vifam in his lynch pool and says that Vifam is prob-town. That's really weird. The only reasons I don't find it too suspicious are because I don't see a scum motive and Friend's stance on Rainbowdash is just as weird (and Rainbowdash was town).
Finally, LobsterCatapult's comments regarding Vifam in
post 403 and
post 535. Her comment in post 535 is a bit weird, but I have trouble imagining post 403 coming from Vifam's scumbuddy.
In conclusion, there are a few reasons to believe LobsterCatapult is connected to Vifam and it's not a terrible lynch, but I'm leaning town.
Vifam/Yonzy + tarsonisocelot:
After reading tarsonisocelot in isolation, I am
extremely
bothered by the lack of attention she has gotten recently. She mentioned the Vifam/Yonzy once throughout the course of day 1. Her one mention of Vifam/Yonzy was
here where she mentions a very small suspicion of Yonzy. However, this suspicion was only given when asked for it by ConfidAnon. Aside from that, she completely ignored Yonzy/Vifam for the rest of the game. She completely ignored the Vifam bandwagon at the end of day 1 and never even expressed interest in joining it.
There's a small connection between LobsterCatapult and the dead scum and a slightly stronger connection between avasthearties and the dead scum, but there is a strong connection between el simo and the dead scum and a very strong connection between tarsonisocelot and the dead scum. I wouldn't mind any of these four players getting lynched, but I would prefer to see an el simo lynch or a tarsonisocelot lynch. There's also a strong connection between el simo and tarsonisocelot (so my suspicion isn't just based on this post) which I'll get to later. Also, I have some other points against these two players which I noticed when doing my analysis. These other points have nothing to do with interactions, but are still pretty telling imo.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. -Wayne Gretzky"
-Wickedestjr
