Open 325: Paris Mafia III - Game Over

[Wickedestjr]

Votecount 2.1:

Not Voting - [8] - kondi2424, Maruchan, Hoppster, xRECKONERx, whispersilk, racerman13, scooby, hahonryuu

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or 4 to no-lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2011-09-06 23:07:20)

[scooby]

lol

Vote: Reckoner

[kanyeknowsbest]

>:(

[xRECKONERx]

Fucking PRO vig (or maybe scum)

LOL KANYE

We should reopen discussions about vig claiming for watcher protection.

[Maruchan]

One quick thing.


I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO.

I wasn't a mime.

Now you can call me scum all you want, but thats your call.

[Maruchan]

Agreed. Vig should claim. Watcher is on vig.

If vig is CC'ed, watcher goes on random.

If vig dies after being cc'ed we lynch the CC.

We work together to decide who to have the vig kill.


VOTE: VIG CLAIM


{Vig Claim Votecount}
Vig should claim: (1) Maruchan
Vig should NOT claim: (0)

[xRECKONERx]

Vig wouldn't be CC'd anyway, since the real vig would obviously just shoot them.

[Maruchan]

Vig wouldn't be CC'd anyway, since the real vig would obviously just shoot them.

proving my point even further.

My point being it is beneficial for vig to claim at this stage. Watcher on vig, scum can't target vig unless they are willing to lose one, or they are willing to CC watcher. and then if 1 watcher has a guilty on the guy who CCs him, it makes it easy, you lynch them both, starting with the one who has a guilty read on him.

If someone who the watcher DIDNT see kill the vig ccs, then we lynch one of their guilties to determine scum, and catch two scum in the process.

my point being it all seems pro-town to me for vig to claim.

[xRECKONERx]

Yeah, I'm not seeing any negatives, though I'm interested to see what Empking says about this.

One point against it is that if the watcher gets NK'd, the vig is obviously next. But this also means the vig is guaranteed to say alive and thus be protected from NKs, and if the watcher doesn't get killed, we could have confirmed town in LYLO. Even if the watcher dies the night before LYLO, we'd still have the vig confirmed and alive the next day.

Plus there's always the WIFOM of "WHAT IF THE WATCHER DOESN'T PROTECT THE VIG" which is super fun for scum.

[Maruchan]

Yeah, I'm not seeing any negatives, though I'm interested to see what Empking says about this.

One point against it is that if the watcher gets NK'd, the vig is obviously next. But this also means the vig is guaranteed to say alive and thus be protected from NKs, and if the watcher doesn't get killed, we could have confirmed town in LYLO. Even if the watcher dies the night before LYLO, we'd still have the vig confirmed and alive the next day.

Plus there's always the WIFOM of "WHAT IF THE WATCHER DOESN'T PROTECT THE VIG" which is super fun for scum.

Exactly my points.

[Hoppster]

wtf

I had both Empking and kanye as relatively town compared to other players


well at least I know this is a pro vote now:

VOTE: kondi

"OMG HOPPSTER CAUGHT ME IN MY /CONFIRM POST BETTA DISCREDIT HIM PRONTO" <----- kondi yesterday


Agree to vig-claim.

Yeah, I'm not seeing any negatives, though I'm interested to see what Empking says about this.

... not sure if serious?

[xRECKONERx]

HAHAHAHA WTF EMPKING WAS THE OTHER MIME.
HOW DID I MISS THAT.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Fuck it then. I'm up for vigclaim.

[Maruchan]

{Vig Claim Votecount}
Vig should claim: (s) Maruchan, Hoppster, xRECKONERx
Vig should NOT claim: (0)



Anybody else wanna give input?

[Hoppster]

Everybody else is clearly lurking scum.

We should greet them with a nice L-2 wagon on their scumbuddy kondi when they get back.

Vote kondi with me for great justice.

[whispersilk]

I'm the vig.

[xRECKONERx]

Okay,

watcher MUST watch whispersilk tonight

.

If you are the real vig and whispersilk is fakeclaiming,

do not counterclaim. Shoot whispersilk instead.

Otherwise, we can now lynch elsewhere.

[whispersilk]

My top kill choices (in order) were kanye, empking, and kondi. I would be happy to lynch kondi today.

[xRECKONERx]

Sure, let's do it.

Vote: kondi

[whispersilk]

I'm also itching to kill scooby.

[xRECKONERx]

PS, we're in 2:6 right now.
If we lynch wrongly today, it's 2:5, and vig kill + mafia kill would be 2:3 (if he shoots wrong). So we absolutely need the vig to shoot tonight since WCS we get mylo tomorrow.
If we lynch correctly today, it's 1:6, and vig kill + mafia kill would be 1:4... at which point we may want to nolynch, since vigkill + mafiakill would be 1:2 (or we lynch, and vig doesn't shoot).

I suggest the watcher randomly chooses between protecting the vig and protecting the player they find the most pro-town. This way the mafia are WIFOMed out of who to kill.

[whispersilk]

Vote kondi

If kondi is hammered without being given a chance to defend or claim, the person hammering will get a bullet tonight.

[Maruchan]

Vote kondi

If kondi is hammered without being given a chance to defend or claim, the person hammering will get a bullet tonight.

^^

Vote: Kondi

[Maruchan]

PS

THAT IS L-1

[Wickedestjr]

Bump

[Wickedestjr]

Bump (again)