Flash mafia 3 (town wins)

[farside22]

mastin claimed VT

show me the post and i'll claim

Why are you delaying the process? Regfan made a point already about Mastin.

[Ellibereth]

Wow
I can't believe I missed that.
>.>

[shaft.ed]

I confused Regfan and mastin

i wonder how that happened

[shaft.ed]

mastin claimed VT

show me the post and i'll claim

Why are you delaying the process? Regfan made a point already about Mastin.

because mastin is a suspect of mine and I'm not assuming anything

Regfan's done enough to assist scum, i dont think we need to keep building mastin's claim for him

[springlullaby]

Alright, caught up.

I agree with what has been said, 4 scums seems too scumsided.
Althought 'saulus' may be a plausible scenario, I see it as unlikely too as janitor is indeed a pretty powerful role. So if we lose to that, I'm blaming it on the mod anyway.

I'm thinking it is ok to claim.

And I agree that Mastin needs to claim. The words needs to come from his mouth, so to speak, to minimize any possible confusion.

[Regfan]

@ Shafted -

Yeah uh, I know it would be and apologize for it but I can't remove it due to [Redacted]. If it's any consolation I was *right* on the doctor and I'm fairly sure Eli is the final scum.

[Llamarble]

4 scum means (as of game-start) 3 mislynches loses.
That means to win we have to lynch correctly 2/3 of the time when the odds of correctly lynching are closer to 1/3.
We would need ridiculous town power to deal with that situation.

So basically there are 3 scum.
A kill occurred last night while VPB was roleblocked.
Therefore VPB did not submit the kill and is not the last scum.
Therefore VPB is conftown.

Thinking Regfan is scum is stupid unless we get additional claimed power sufficient for the setup to make sense without him a tracker.
Same goes for Farside.
And it is a safe assumption that town has another power role, so if only one more person claims something we can clear them as town too.

[VP Baltar]

Regfan can't be scum because there are no tracking roles that are scum aligned.

[Llamarble]

Yay for a harder form of conftown.

[Porochaz]

Llamarble in answer to farside. Calling random people confirmed town.

Other than that, I wont be commenting until Regfan realises avi bets are dumb as hell and changes it. Due to it causing problems distinguising between 2 players in the game.

Also Im not 100% cool with this mass claim.

[VP Baltar]

Also Im not 100% cool with this mass claim.

it has to happen now due to reg fan basically outting the doctor. We may as well glean what we can from this train wreck of a mass claim at this point.

[shaft.ed]

Also Im not 100% cool with this mass claim.

it has to happen now due to reg fan basically outting the doctor. We may as well glean what we can from this train wreck of a mass claim at this point.

This

Between Llamarble and Regfan's verbal diahrea there is no turning back



And yes whatever is 'making' you have that avatar needs to be corrected
Alternatively we could just lynch mastin

[Regfan]

There, it's gone less complaining and no it wasn't an avatar bet. You can complain about me forcing you to mass-claim all you want but frankly I don't care mass-claim is and was the right move in this situation and Elibereth continues to be the final mafia.

[Porochaz]

Thank you, it wasn't and Im sick and tired of arrogant people going against what town think, we are all experienced players what makes you think you know better than all of us and I can claim now or I can wait for some popcorn based thing or whatever.

[Llamarble]

I mean, this game is solved and won.
It's not actually debatable at this point, just a matter of helping people understand why the game is over.
I am sufficiently confident we win that I'm willing to be the first non-conftown lynched so long as people actually follow the winning plan.

[Llamarble]

But yeah it's probably Mastin or Elli. Outside chance of Spring/Poro. One of those 4 will be cleared off of massclaim.
Unless VPB is the doctor, but that still probably is okay as Farside would be guaranteed 2 confirms before dying, which is still a forced win.

[Regfan]

@ Porochaz -

I don't think I know better than all of you when it comes to most aspects of the game but when it comes to working out if mass-claim is optimal or not I've had

a lot

of practice. Magua can probably confirm (Though he's not in the game) that I'm good at actually breaking majority of open setups via working out when mass-claiming is good and setup breakable, this is one of those positions and Llarmable understands and agrees.

@ Llarmable -

VP claimed VT and is clear. Poro is likely town from the tracking and Spring is town. If it's not you it's either Mastin or Eli and I lean strongly towards it being Eli. You can vote with me if you want, it'd speed this up marginally.

[shaft.ed]

Magua can probably confirm (Though he's not in the game)

sorry i just had to laugh about this
carry on with your regularly scheduled game of mafia

[farside22]

@Regfan: Just one of those I have a question about your theory on only 1 scum left.
Do you really believe 100% the doctor got lucky on protection 3 nights in a row?
Have you figured the odds on that one yet?

[Regfan]

@ Farside -

The odds of a three saves occuring are low when looking at it but I don't believe it's even close to out of the question. I think the doc save targets will be highly informative though. Do you honestly believe 4 scum is possible with the only town powers being tracker, roleblocker and doctor? Yes or no?

@ Shafted -

Glad I'm entertaining you but you may as well claim now.

[shaft.ed]

I told you I'm not letting mastin off the hook no matter how much you want to claim for him

IMHO 3 Doc saves >>> 2 Doc Saves + Saulus

Also Why are you ruling out successful RB's farside?

[Llamarble]

Our plan does not let Mastin off the hook. He (like all other possible scum) will either die or get confirmed as town eventually.

[Porochaz]

Can anyone else beyond Regfan or Llamarble give me a reason not to vote Llamarble?

[shaft.ed]

Fate will yell at you

oh wait

[Llamarble]

I mean the plan also does not let me off the hook.
Do you understand that town can't actually lose right now?