[Mini 1205] Tough Guy Mafia - Game Over!

[Magua]

Spoiler: And now for something completely different...

[Ethos]

Can't be. Ethos is the godfather. And as before, if Wicked investigates you, I will lynch him. I don't need another repeat of Cop-investigates-only-obvtown-just-in-case.

Slaxx is freaked out that I'm posting this but don't buss us yet, there's far too many MLs to dodge. Unless this is distancing then good work now can one of Wicked or Hez hammer Lobster-scum now please.

[tarsonisocelot]

simo, What's your read on ViFam and bobsnox (whose latest posts were in between my arguments)?

bobsnox is my most town read, ViFam I don't like, can't say why I'd have to reread him in ISO.

Why is bobsnox a townread for you?

If I can't get my head into this game by tonight I plan on replacing out. Since it started external events have distracted me from mafia and while there isn't anything I can do about the situation it makes it a little hard to care about this. If I can't gather enough focus by tonight I will replace out because it would not be fair to the town to mislynch on D1 because I didn't give enough of a shit to defend properly or contribute.

I think Hez is town and Yank either scum or troll and either way not a good thing for town.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: YankCane

Hey Wicked, the bold bit in this quote is where I referred to external events.

There's not that much in my ISO so you should have found it fairly easily. Claiming that I haven't mentioned external events is a lie.

You're either tunneling badly and need to rethink based on actual flips rather than speculated links between living players or scum, and I'm still leaning scum on you. But it's better for town to lynch you tomorrow than today.

[tarsonisocelot]

Ethos is the godfather.

To clarify: is this a joke?

[Ethos]

Ethos is the godfather.

To clarify: is this a joke?

Apparently not.

Magua how did you find us out? Are you a town rolecop or gunsmith?

Fuck we were playing so well.

[Fenix]

Basically you're dead wrong. I'm town.

And that's exactly what you'd say regardless of alignment. That statement doesn't help us.

I think that I've actually ignored most of the people in this game

That's a problem.

i dont understand why you sited that post of me being noncomittal. im plenty noncomittal, just not there. and i am somwhat impulsive, but i have had good reasons for every vote ive cast

You lead with two sentences that contradicted each other, and then admitted impulsiveness but denied lack of reasoning. You vote on the fly. Like just now. Speaking of which...

i throw my vote around where i think it best suits town
...
im going to

unvote

vote:fenix

I've read the thread, your votes have switched between the most popular wagon and the least popular wagon, and it doesn't seem to agree with your suspicions all the way either. I find it very hard to believe you're voting with the best interest of the town in mind.

Tonight Wicked will investigate me and tomorrow he will tell you all he got innocent but it's ok I must just be the godfather then.

Can't be. Ethos is the godfather. And as before, if Wicked investigates you, I will lynch him.

I tried to find where you suddenly decided that Ethos was the godfather. Found it.

Ethos is cleared by Wicked, so is obviously godfather.

And this is in full context. No explanation, no reasoning, just an unsupported assertion. I hope this isn't a serious statement. Or at the very least I hope you can back it up.

@all of you trying to push connections only cases:

they don't work. In order for someone to be scummy they have to have something they have done which is scummy. Connections should sway the vote with a strength proportional to the connection, but they are not in and of themselves reasons for votes. Please stop this illogical non-sense. Also, to those of you pushing for "If X is mafia, Y is mafia" cases: they don't work either. It's a giant WIFOM sandwich that scum love to screw you with. Logical deductions are perfectly fine (top three suspects, if one isn't scum the other two likely are, etc.), but even still, half of the case is useful AFTER a flip, and the other half is mostly fluff/skewing opinions.

[Ethos]

Ethos is cleared by Wicked, so is obviously godfather.

And this is in full context. No explanation, no reasoning, just an unsupported assertion. I hope this isn't a serious statement. Or at the very least I hope you can back it up.

It seems Magua is trying to direct PRs, good point Fenix. I am seriously considering switching to Magua now.

[Ethos]

The only way Magua makes sense is being scum with el simo though.

Good game guys, its Mag+Simo.

[Ethos]

I'd like to ask you why your slot is voting el simo-town instead of Lobster Catapult-scum.

Because I haven't been 'active' enough.

This right here proves it.

We fucking won.

[Magua]

To clarify: is this a joke?

Hold on. This is going to take me a few minutes to set up.

Ok.



The images are crap, maybe I'll replace them later.

[Ethos]

Wow sarcastic caught scum is caught.

[Magua]

There we go. Magic 8-ball images are so much better.

[tarsonisocelot]

There we go. Magic 8-ball images are so much better.

[el simo]

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@all of you trying to push connections only cases:

they don't work. In order for someone to be scummy they have to have something they have done which is scummy. Connections should sway the vote with a strength proportional to the connection, but they are not in and of themselves reasons for votes. Please stop this illogical non-sense. Also, to those of you pushing for "If X is mafia, Y is mafia" cases: they don't work either. It's a giant WIFOM sandwich that scum love to screw you with. Logical deductions are perfectly fine (top three suspects, if one isn't scum the other two likely are, etc.), but even still, half of the case is useful AFTER a flip, and the other half is mostly fluff/skewing opinions.

QFT - the reread I did was based on Ethos' findings on the two, thus my case was meant to consolidate his.

Also: I hope the Magua + me business is a joke, I can't really tell. This last page is confusing me.

[Ethos]

Yeah, the last half a page or so was Slaxx trolling and joking around, he wanted to keep it up to see peoples reactions and to see if Fenix and Lobster would jump on Magua but at this point it's pointless.

Interaction and connection tells alone don't mean much but interaction tells with a dead mafia, with another player and individual scum tells combined mean a LOT.

[el simo]

Which is why I'm so certain with the Lobster/whoeverreplacedavast scum team!

[LobsterCatapult]

you're right about avast/fenix scum.

not about me.

my mislynch continues in suspense from the mod!

[Magua]

Self vote pl0x.

[HezLucky]

i throw my vote around where i think it best suits town
...
im going to

unvote

vote:fenix

I've read the thread, your votes have switched between the most popular wagon and the least popular wagon, and it doesn't seem to agree with your suspicions all the way either. I find it very hard to believe you're voting with the best interest of the town in mind.

oh cool, distancing.

Unvote, Vote: LobsterCatapult

I think I just hammered

[Ethos]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A lyncher win, 110 points for me!

[Magua]

Ok, guys, so time for this gambit to end. I'm really a mason with Lobster Cata...oh.

Nevermind.

[Amor]

Final Votecount

LobsterCatapult - 6 (Magua, Ethos, el simo, Fenix, tarsonisocelot, HezLucky)

Fenix - 2 (Wickedestjr, LobsterCatapult)
Wickedestjr - 1 (Horrifying Hero)

Not Voting - Tomie Uzumaki

As soon as the day begins the assorted macho-men crowd around Wickedestjr, badgering him. They seem sure that a real cop would already have solved the problem by now, with at least three explosions involved. However, things seem different today. Many of the tough guys almost seem to be different people than they were the day before. Maybe they're just crabby because you ran out of bacon.

With this shift in personality comes new suspicion. LobsterCatapult quickly finds himself on the defensive, bearing accusations that lobster is not a very manly type of food at all. He tries to protest his innocence, but with a surge of force a half-dozen men lift him up and toss him over the edge.

However, searching through his belongings, you can find nothing incriminating. Ah well. Have to break a few eggs to kill the bad guys, eh?

LobsterCatapult, Vanilla Townie, was lynched!

It is now night. Please submit your actions to me via PM. This night will end on Sunday, August 28 at 11:59 PM or when I find a replacement for Tomie, whichever comes first.

[Amor]

After two days of lynching everyone is exhausted, and sleeps like a baby. A really tough baby. Well, actually, maybe not everyone was asleep last night.

In the morning you find the remnants of an epic battle. Boulders have been destroyed by explosions and martial arts moves. Stains from gratuitous blood sprays stain the ground. And laying on the edge of camp are the two combatants, both dead. One fought for good, one for evil, but they both ended up in the same state.

Magua, Town Bodygaurd, was killed!

HezLucky, Mafia Hider, was killed!

Seeing their bodies makes you ponder for a moment on the futility of battle. But not for long. There’s still scum to be lynched, so more killing has to be done.

Day 3 has begun! With 7 alive, it’s 4 to lynch.

Krazy replaces Tomie Uzumaki.

[Krazy]

Hey everyone. Looks like there's a lot of reading to do. Trying to even keep track of who replaced who can be kind of confusing so let me know if this is right:

These players have replaced in:
Fenix replaces lewarcher who replaced avast
Magua replaces YanktheCane
Ethos replaces ConfidAnon
Krazy replaces Tomie Uzumaki who replaced Kid Know Nothing

And these players have been here from the beginning:
tarsonisocelot
el simo
Wickedestjr
Horrifying Hero

We have 8 total players and it is 5 to lynch?

Let me know if there's any omissions and anything I need to know immediately. Thanks!

[Ethos]

Hey. Mass claim time with only one scum left.

Wicked: Cop
Us: VT

Get this train rolling.