Open 329: Mayo Clinic D3: Town WINS!

[glowball]

I thought you were dropping this Mr.ICE

[GreyICE]

I'm trying to determine whether this is misguided town, or panicking scum.

I'm leaning latter from the way the theory discussion degenerates into insults every time you don't have a way to continue.

[glowball]

I am insulting you because I have been insulted. I keep waiting for you to just leave it alone and lynch me already

[GreyICE]

fair enough.

Lets finish claim then lynch glowball.

[Maruchan]

That seems like viable strategy to me.

What about Neil though?

[GreyICE]

Vig shot.

If he's town he at least won't be stupid enough to do things like doctor protect vig shots, while I have no idea what glowball will do.

[glowball]

OH NEIL, please DO something ridiculous! I promise to love you forever if you do! But don't tell them...

[Maruchan]

OH NEIL, please DO something ridiculous! I promise to love you forever if you do! But don't tell them...

Vote:GLowball

THis post is so anti-town I can't not vote for you Glowball. Sorry.

[glowball]

double negatives!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why would you apologize?

[Maruchan]

Because you're a female and I try to be nice to girls. Its something my step mom taught me that has worked really well for me.

[glowball]

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How cute.

[GreyICE]

Can you just replace out please?

[BBmolla]

Can you just replace out please?

And I'd like a mass unvote until claims are finished please.

[Maruchan]

Can you just replace out please?

And I'd like a mass unvote until claims are finished please.

Unvote

[Maruchan]

@Glowball, ty♥

[glowball]

Can you just replace out please?

I am here to play, let's do this... on with the show.

[GreyICE]

You're not playing, you're sitting there whining that the best way to win isn't the right way to play for some reason or another you can't articulate without developing Tourettes syndrome.

[glowball]

I am playing but all of you just keep coming back to me and if you really believe that I am not doing anything you have to think the same of yourself because you are indulging me. PLAY THE GAME and I WILL FOLLOW. I am just not claiming. GET OVER IT. There is more to this game than mass claims. I've placed votes want to ask me about any of those? Want to actually scumhunt?

[GreyICE]

I want you to do BOTH.

Do I have any confidence if you're town that you won't do something insanely anti-town like doctor the vigilante shot?

Do I have any confidence if you're a vig you won't do something insanely stupid like not counterclaim when there's two claimed vigs?

No.

And really, this isn't making me think town at all, this is making me think inexperienced scum who are scared of being locked into impossible claims.

[glowball]

Okay, I thought you settled on lynching me? What is the problem then?

[Quaroath]

*waits for his popcorn to pop*

[BBmolla]

*waits for his popcorn to pop*

Just go for it while you're here.

[GreyICE]

Okay, I thought you settled on lynching me? What is the problem then?

We have a claims process to work out here.

You go sit in the corner.

[neil1113]

You want me to claim? Fine.

I am:

A man. Neil_1113 to be exact. I'm here to play Mafia, catch liars, and genuinely play the set up and prove that I can win, no matter what alignment I am.

Now here's the issue. I'm thinking like scum here, and to easily manipulate the plan, check this out.

So we have two vigs.

Two vigs go out, we tell them to shoot the same person. Scum know they are town, and so far I don't agree with nearly anyone's reads that have posted them. And for most of Day One we're going with little to no information for reads. So it's like starting all over again, and with two people playing with VI tendencies, and another just sheeping, out of a game of 12 people that's not very good odds. And then to think, this would be Day 2. So if we(scum) are smart, we'd kill someone and let the vig do his thing to a townie, while letting the town lynch Glow(a townie IMO). So by the start of Day 2, we'd have 9 people left, with little to no reads, most in which I believe are wrong anyway, and out of the 9 (assuming I'm still alive at this point) we have 1 anti-townie person, 1 sheep, and 1 person that just happens to play VI-like, 2 people that like to lead the town, both in wrong directions, and 3 that don't speak? What are you really going to do as town in this position? Try and restart the game this time to find reads? Wasting a whole day, and probably eliminating 3 townies while we're at it? If anything, while you keep attacking Glow for being anti-town, she's actually anti-plan, not anti-town by the way, you're being hypocritical because you're setting us up to have 3 people aligned with the town dead by the start of Day 2.

Now from here it's pretty much a toss up of WIFOM and luck as to what happens next. Could we get a scum read? Doubtful, considering who the town consists of currently and how we're playing together. Could we lynch another townie? This seems a lot more probable to me then the first. Then on top of that, we give the scum another chance to eliminate one of us, and our vigs both teaming to eliminate someone.. this could be scum or could be town. Either way, we start Day 3 with 6 people, and if the scum are smart they'd leave the two VI's and the sheep, so half of the town are incompetent to even hold us up, while having 2-3 possible scum left as the other town. Our only hope here is that we were able to eliminate a scum by the time we get here, because if not, we've officially lost already. If we do, by some slim chance and by the grace of God, we find ourselves eliminating scum Day 2 or Night 2, we still have 2 scum left with 4 people.

I'm pretty sure I'll be dead by now, in some way or another, because I don't play the game the way you want to, so at this point it'll be 3 incompetent town players, 1 townsman that may or may not even be active (if scum are smart, again, they'd leave the lurkers / inactive players). What type of town is that? I'm not confident enough in our ability as a town from what I've seen so far, to put my faith in this plan to be quite honest. This is why I'm not claiming. But don't be stupid / foolish and assume that because I'm not claiming, that I fit into a category you could classify my under. Don't assume I'm a doctor, or a vig, or scum, or the SK, based on rather or not I claim. You're setting yourself up for failure. And don't lynch your vigs either, because that changes the plan completely. With only one vig, we're basically screwed out of our night kills due to the Mafia Doc. We could only kill town without being blocked.

So remind me again what makes this (incredibly town) plan benefit us? We already have one claimed vig, and now we've put him in danger. The minute the chance comes, you better believe the scum will take him out. Then what? But by that point, I'll admit, we probably can turn ourselves out of that whole. Just please, for the love of God, do not let another person claim. We're ruining our chances slowly by doing that, by giving the Mafia information that they don't need to have.

Also, to answer your question from before, do I believe you're scum? I couldn't honestly say yes, though I don't believe you're playing pro-town... at least not as much as you can.

[glowball]

Okay, I thought you settled on lynching me? What is the problem then?

We have a claims process to work out here.

You go sit in the corner.

^RUDE and UNNECESSARY...

I am playing the game and watching the claiming, you can stop being a control freak now.