Newbie 1138 - Game Over! Town Win!

[singersigner]

Vote Count 3.2.0

DarkClaymore (1): Honest Abel

Honest Abel (4): Xeras, DarkClaymore, Honest Abel, Nobody Special

whilst (1): Nobody Special
Xeras (1): I Am Innocent
I Am Innocent (0):
Nobody Special (0):

Not Voting (1): whilst

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

That's a lynch! Flip and Flavor to come.

[singersigner]

The town was puzzled by the lack of a kill Night Two, and with accusations being flung left and right, no one felt safe.

Finally, upon dusk falling, one of townspeople started getting aggravated.

"How could you possibly think it's me?!" an exacerbated Honest Abel cried.

They sniveled, "Because you're SCUM," only wanting blood on their hands.

"I'll show you!" he sputtered, and tightened the rope.

With his few last words haunting them, the town never looked back...until...

Honest Abel,

Vanilla Townie

,

lynched Day Three.

Deadline for any/all night actions are due August 28th, 2011, 5PM PST.

[singersigner]

Realizing their grave mistake, the town knew it was nearing the end. As they slowly walked out of their houses and down the streets to confirm their suspicions, it was no surprise when they came upon the dwellings of Nobody Special. The mourning was soon short-lived, as fear overwhelmed them once more.

Nobody Special,

Jailkeeper

,

killed Night Three.

Deadline for Day Four is September 18th, 5PM PST.

[singersigner]

Vote Count 4.0

DarkClaymore (0):
whilst (0):
Xeras (0):
I Am Innocent (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Mod Notes:

• whilst PMed me during the night phase and let me know that he would be V/LA until the 31st.
  
• Deadline for Day Four is September 18th, 5PM PST.

[Nobody Special]

BAH!!!!

[Xeras]

I'll be jailing Dark Claymore tonight.

Well Claymore, Keep your trust in me, and we have this game.

Vote: I am Innocent.

Whilst claimed Vanilla Townie. What is your claim?

[DarkClaymore]

Finally confirmed.
FREEDOM!!!




Though I really hoped this would happen N2 and not N3

I'll be jailing Dark Claymore tonight.

Well Claymore, Keep your trust in me, and we have this game.

Vote: I am Innocent.

Whilst claimed Vanilla Townie. What is your claim?

Actually, I'd rather hear your claim first. Ya know, because you have a wild history of fake claiming. Even as town

My personal claiming order would be:
1) Xeras
2) IAI
3) DC

We can either go with mine since I'm confirmed, or everyone will make their own lists and we count like Abel suggested before. After all, it's 3 Vs. 1 right now.

Also, I think it'd be good if every player puts a list of all players in the order he suspects them. With the first being the one he believes the most is scum. I rather go last so that scum can't see my list before posting his.

[Xeras]

Vanilla Townie. Nothing special. I am not going to go out of my way to fake claim in an open game. >>

[Xeras]

Edit by way of post...

My order of suspects.

IAI
Whilst
Xeras
Dc

[DarkClaymore]

Edit by way of post...

My order of suspects.

IAI
Whilst
Xeras
Dc

So you suspect yourself, who should be a confirmed townie to you, and me who is a confirmed townie for everyone. Not only that, but you suspect yourself more than me, even though you have the most solid proof you're town (if you are).

Seriously, why put us on the list in the first place?

[I Am Innocent]

Computer fried by Irene. On wife's I touch.

X eras
Whilst
Dc
Me

Hope to have computer fixed in next few days...

[I Am Innocent]

Vanilla town here

[DarkClaymore]

Okay so I'm the last one...

I'm a cop. I investigated Cav on N1 and got "Innocent" and then Abel on N2 and got "Guilty".
In other words: I'm VT

I pretty much figured we don't have another PR. I think "outguessing the setup" is my sole talent in mafia...
Anyway. Interesting thing is that scum didn't claim PR. Which means that, despite how there are three townies and there were three nights, the rolecop DIDN'T investigate all three of us.

So here's my questions:
1)

If you were the rolecop, who would you investigate every night and why?

2)

Who do you think the rolecop, who supposedly is your top suspect, investigated every night and why?

Make sure to explain how, in your eyes, the night targets of that suspect fit with his behavior in thread (or at least don't collide with it)

I'll answer the second question last as well.

[Xeras]

Myuu...

Unvote, Vote No Lynch

[DarkClaymore]

Myuu...

Unvote, Vote No Lynch

...

I went over this option already and ended up concluding it'll be worse. Try convincing me how it's better than attempting to lynch the scum TODAY. DO IT, scum.

[DarkClaymore]

BTW, I wonder what happened to Whilst...

[Xeras]

Because I am a doctor. I was waiting for someone IAI to slip. But it didn't happen.

I am going to protect you during night four, and cut it down to to only two people to choose from. ^^

[DarkClaymore]

Because I am a doctor. I was waiting for someone IAI to slip. But it didn't happen.

I am going to protect you during night four, and cut it down to to only two people to choose from. ^^

Here you go again with fake claims...

Who you, or rather Dicknose, protected on every night?

And I think the current situation might be better as we need three votes to lynch over two in your scenario. In three votes, there is always a town majority as two of the voters must be town.

What you're offering here, assuming you're really doc, is to let me choose the scum next day. While a 50-50 situation is nice, I still might miss. Well, let's see what others think. Both IAI and Whilst are pretty quiet, especially the latter, and it doesn't make the game any easier.

[Xeras]

I didn't protect anyone during night 3. Otherwise it would mess with the results concerning you and your being cleared. Before that. I have no idea. There was no real reason for singersigner to tell me the previous actions.

[DarkClaymore]

I didn't protect anyone during night 3. Otherwise it would mess with the results concerning you and your being cleared. Before that. I have no idea. There was no real reason for singersigner to tell me the previous actions.

How comes? I believe it's still something you should be told when you replace a PR

[DarkClaymore]

Just something I noticed by going over the thread...
D1 L-1 wagons:

Honest Abel (4):

I Am Innocent

,

Dark Claymore

,

BBmolla

,

cavjj

BBmolla (5):

Scumhunter

,

Honest Abel

,

I Am Innocent

,

Dark Claymore

,

cavjj

IAI. You said at the very beginning of the game how you tend to analyze vote histories. Assuming you were looking at this objectivity, forgetting how you're town, what would be your conclusion?

Also, you said you suspect Xeras, hence former Dicknose, the most. How close was Dicknose to being your top suspect BEFORE he was replaced?

[I Am Innocent]

Computer fixed!!!

Because I am a doctor. I was waiting for someone IAI to slip. But it didn't happen.

I am going to protect you during night four, and cut it down to to only two people to choose from. ^^

lol, so what would keep scum from claiming doctor after everyone else has claimed, then not NK'ing anyone N4 and pretending it is because of his protection. Not buying it dude.

What you're offering here, assuming you're really doc, is to let me choose the scum next day. While a 50-50 situation is nice, I still might miss. Well, let's see what others think. Both IAI and Whilst are pretty quiet, especially the latter, and it doesn't make the game any easier.

Not a 50-50 split, see above.

I didn't protect anyone during night 3. Otherwise it would mess with the results concerning you and your being cleared. Before that. I have no idea. There was no real reason for singersigner to tell me the previous actions.

This is total lie. Doc protection does not interfere with any other player's results other than a NK.

I also call a lie on this:

@mod, would you automatically forward previous night actions from a replaced player to the replacee?

[I Am Innocent]

Just something I noticed by going over the thread...
D1 L-1 wagons:

Honest Abel (4):

I Am Innocent

,

Dark Claymore

,

BBmolla

,

cavjj

BBmolla (5):

Scumhunter

,

Honest Abel

,

I Am Innocent

,

Dark Claymore

,

cavjj

IAI. You said at the very beginning of the game how you tend to analyze vote histories. Assuming you were looking at this objectivity, forgetting how you're town, what would be your conclusion?

If it was two newbies, it could be telling. I would expect an experienced scum player though to teach a newbie player like cavjj at distancing oneself from your teammate, which usually means not being on the same town wagon.

Then again, I would have also expected an experienced scum player to teach the newbie scum to lay low, especially on D1. And hammering on page 4 seriously hints that cavjj was not given this advice.

Also, you said you suspect Xeras, hence former Dicknose, the most. How close was Dicknose to being your top suspect BEFORE he was replaced?

I started to suspect Dicknose late D2, though I was one that said to keep the lynch going on the confirmed scum and not Dicknose (remember HA and NS were pushing for Dicknose after the cavjj outting of himself). I said we could find his teammate D3. Not something that scum IAI would do for town Dicknose if you know what I mean.

D3 I placed one vote and never unvoted. It was for Dicknose, later Xeras. (Oh, and for the record, I made one vote D2 and never unvoted, cavjj). Ask yourself, is that evidence of smart scum play? Or more likely, that I am town?

[I Am Innocent]

EBWOP, I am obviously not 100% sure Xeras is scum, though the lies he has made this page makes me feel better about my gut town read of whilst. Still, I want to focus on D2, and plan to reread over the next few days and see what evidence comes up. D1 was too short and D3 the lone scum did not have a teammate to possibly protect anymore. Let's see what D2 tells...

[DarkClaymore]

Rereading some stuff, I'd say that I think IAI is more likely town than Dicknose was and than Whilst who I suspected from D2 on. I'm ready to be convinced otherwise, Xeras.

My main reason would be that IAI is an experienced player, and especially mafia player. First of all, I believe he is aware how a fakeclaim should be prepared as soon as possible if you're scum. It's not something you come up with at the last moment unless you plan to claim vanilla. I'd say Cav did exactly that - came up with a claim once he was about to be lynched.

Not to mention how his claim was awfully WRONG. I don't see IAI letting his partner go through with that. All in all: If IAI planned all that to be clear and win, then I'd even admit he deserves this win. So one way or another, atm I'll clear him and focus on the remaining two.

Now, I'm personally leaning toward Whilst over XerasNose ( )
But actually I got some PR reads from Dicknose at some point. Maybe these were the reads of a rolecop...?

And where's Whilst? Limited Access or something?