Newbie 1151 ÔÇô Game Over

[Isa]

Hey guys. Busy with university (just started), but I'm reading all posts through my phone.

Xeras+Stels is the scumteam. I can't see why Racerman/Epsilon thinks they're not.

I quicksheep everything that Krazy has said about Stels. I support a lynch of either person - moreso the Xeras lynch than the Stels one, but still enough for me to feel safe putting my vote on both.
Which reminds me...Epsilon, pronto, put your vote on Xeras as you wanted. Nobody will quickhammer. "What if he's town" yeah that goes for everyone. NOW VOTE

[Epsilon_Andrew]

VOTE: Xeras

[Isa]

Good stuff.

Also, that's L-1, for those who did not know.

[Xeras]

I guess once I am L-1 I will claim Vanilla Townie. Unless the doctor/ Jailkeeper does their job properly, we will be in lylo.
Once I am gone, Krazy/racerman and Stels.

Unvote, Vote Stels

L-2

[Isa]

Giving up already? Not very consistent with your reads either...First you were sure of Racerscum, then you voted Krazy, and finally Stels. This just looks like distancing before the incoming lynch to me.

I am confident we've found our scumpair. Lynching now would end the day prematurely, it's up to the rest of you to decide if that's what you want or not - I am not unvoting however.

[Xeras]

Isa, Krazy, Racerman

- If I flip VT, who do you think the scumteam would be?

[racerman13]

Stels and Krazy.

[racerman13]

Scratch that - Stels and Isa.

[Krazy]

@Isa, I agree, that was a pretty scummy reaction from Xeras being put at L-1. I'm hoping Ranmaru will get here soon, recovered from the hurricane, but at this point I'm not opposed to hammering him. He seems to have just gone into semi-lurk mode once he realized he was going down today, which suggests to me he at this point just doesn't want to implicate his partner any more clearly.

@Krazy: You clearly don't see my gender being set to male, do you?

Err... sorry about that!

Discussion was going on. A replacement was requested. The game was still going on. Your vote would still persist on Lord/Replacement even if there was a claim, but the Day wouldn't have ended that early if there was no hammer. We are given 3 weeks per Day, of that, we barely managed to get past the 1 week mark, hammer yes, early no.

This explanation, if not the other two, does actually make sense.

However, you seem to regard it as "stupid" to discuss scumteams D1. I just don't see why you would say this as town. You say we 'don't have enough information d1' but when do we have enough information? Looking for the way players interact with each other is one of the principle elements of scumhunting.

And your (continued) suggestion that I should have simply sheeped other players D1 instead of voting for the more suspicious new player is just downright scummy. Opportunistic bandwagoning is pretty much the archetype of scum behavior.

[Krazy]

Isa, Krazy, Racerman

- If I flip VT, who do you think the scumteam would be?

Stels and someone else. Probably Epsilon, I guess, but I'll deal with that scenario when I'm faced with it.

[Ranmaru]

I'm back guys. I'll be catching up tonite and answering any questions addressed to me. : P

[racerman13]

Hi Ranmaru! Good to see you back.

[Xeras]

Racerman. So if I am innocent, Stels is scum. If I am guilty, Stels is scum.

Why not lynch Stels first?

[Krazy]

Xeras, until three hours ago, you were saying "Krazy/Racerman." It's like, these questions you're asking now aren't even bad questions to be asking, but it's really disappointing to see you only asking them when you're at L-1 having jumped on the wagon formed by the person you were just voting. This line of inquiry would seem a lot more pro-town if it wasn't so shamelessly simply trying to save your own neck.

[Xeras]

Ranmaru, where you get caught up, please do not hammer me. I want to figure out the rhythm before I die.
Hmm...

Krazy, and Epsilon

- Scum tend to distance themselves away from their partners. Who does it seem like Stels is the least chummy with?

[racerman13]

YOU.

[Xeras]

YOU.

Myuu... I wasn't expecting that response. Do an ISO and try again. ^^

[Xeras]

EBWOP:

If Krazy hammers me, then assume he is Stel's partner.

But isn't Krazy currently voting for Stels?

He is, but it is strongly likely that he is bussing his partner in day 2, just in case Stels get's lynched day 3. At that point he can go 'Derp. I started the bandwagon on Stels'

[racerman13]

Actually, tbh I would say Krazy. This is total WIFOM, and most of his posts are bad. So, it doesnt really mean anything.

[Xeras]

My secondary opinion would be Epsilon. He talks about Stels looking scummy, but never pursues it. The only people he is after is you and I.

So assuming I do get lynched, I think the best course would be stels during lylo.
After that, It would be between Krazy and Epsilon. Stels distances himself away from Krazy, while Epsilon separates himself from Stels.

[racerman13]

What happened to me being confscum?

[Epsilon_Andrew]

Xeras, the reason I'm going after you and racer, is because stels is my third guess. I still think you and racer are the most scummy imo, hence the reason I'm voting you and not stels.

[Xeras]

What happened to me being confscum?

Nothing in day one is ever concrete. That is why I like to rush to day two, since I have a little bit of patterns to work with.

[racerman13]

If I wasn't voting there, I would have hammered. Someone hammer, this time is being wasted with pointless arguments.

[Krazy]

Racerman, you don't want to see more from Ranmaru?