Open 329: Mayo Clinic D3: Town WINS!

[glowball]

The arguement is i see no pro-town motivation for turning down a third kill that the town direct, but it is worthless now as the scum have stopped neil from being our third vig so to speak.
quil grey and glow are now my top 3 suspects.

@neil dont just give up, as it is probably the 3 scum being the most mouthy about you helping town.

I swear if Neil flips scum. I WILL TEAR YOU TO SHREDS.

[Thomith]

Ok if neil is scum as you guys are pushing then i admit i was wrong and i will lynch myself if that is what you guys want, although i assure you it will be a mislynch.
If he is a SK then vigs should shoot grey quil or glow.

I am not hammering yet, as i want to know the final plan before night.

[neil1113]

The arguement is i see no pro-town motivation for turning down a third kill that the town direct, but it is worthless now as the scum have stopped neil from being our third vig so to speak.
quil grey and glow are now my top 3 suspects.

@neil dont just give up, as it is probably the 3 scum being the most mouthy about you helping town.

Don't be stuck on stupid. They wouldn't be so extremely obvious. Grey is definitely scum, Glow is Glow... </3 and Quil is never good scum. So if he's scum, you'll know without a doubt. Just give it a couple days, ask him questions, and see for yourself. If you're not fairly certain, then he's probably not scum.

I wouldn't be surprised if the scum team consisted of GreyICE, BBMolla, and if I had to take a wild guess, it'd be Piggygirl.

Also, the reason for those wondering that I pushed so hard in my posts with a soft-claiming Vig attitude, was because if the plan was to go through, I'd be the first one to claim Vig as a false claim. If you were wondering.

[Thomith]

BB is confirmed vig bro, he isn't scum unless final vig is being silent for no good reason.

[glowball]

I want Neil lynched.

Vig Bait should be lurkers, scum reads and people who aren't helpful at all(people who it won't matter if we lose, activity wise):

PiggyGal
Whispersilk
VitaminR
Thomith(he's just my scum read)

NINJA'D
OMG NEIL I GET NO LOVE </3?!

[neil1113]

BB is confirmed vig bro, he isn't scum unless final vig is being silent for no good reason.

Failed. I meant Maruchan.

[Thomith]

Thomith(he's just my scum read)

Unless nearly the whole town agrees that i am scum i doubt i will be vigged tonight.

[glowball]

OKay? I was just putting my thoughts out there. Why did you feel the need to comment if you have nothing to worry about?

I swear every post I am flipping back and forth on you.

[Thomith]

So everyone who wants to be offed by someone should just ignore it if it is only one person as they have "nothing to worry about".
K i will remember that.

[glowball]

No, but you keep down playing it. So if you don't think it will happen, why do you feel the need to comment?

[Thomith]

Did you not read my past post, maybe you should reread it before asking that question, because it is basically what you are telling me to do.

[glowball]

Did you not read my post because you have yet to answer the FIRST question. WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO COMMENT since YOU are soooooooooooo sure you won't be vigged? Seriously what were you hopping to gain from that post?

[PiggyGal15]

Guys, we could have two vig kills at night if we keep Niel. Think about it, if Niel gets an assigned person, a vig gets a set person too, and then the other vig can choose which one he shoots out of those two selected secretly at night, then the mafia doctor would have a 50/50 chance of getting the right save. Even if the mafia doc

does

save the right person, we still get one confirmed vig shot. I understand that keeping Niel around until lylo wouldn't be a good idea, things could easily go wrong, but if we lynch him earlier than that, there's not really a problem.

[glowball]

So you would like us to NOT test Neil at all? You want us to blindly follow him? What if he is fake claiming scum?

[Thomith]

This is exactly what i said earlier, but apparently it is completely pro-scum to keep the SK alive when we control the kill, even if we lynch him before he becomes a threat vote wise.

ok you are saying all the negatives glow so let me lay out the possitives.

Essentially an extra vig
We controll an anti-town kill
If he is scum then the scum need to follow what we say or we lynch neil.
We can confirm a vig kill and get a potential second vig kill each night.

What if he is fake claiming scum?

What if he isn't?

[glowball]

What if he is fake claiming scum?

What if he isn't?

You just love answering questions with questions. That wasn't your question, but you chose to address it? Why don't you go back and address the questions I had for you?

What I want to know is which options you guys who want to keep Neil want to choose:

1. TEST his claim by having him vigged Night 1
2. Don't test his claim

[Thomith]

obviously test his claim, as we can possibly still get a shot in with neil.

now answer the question, what if he isn't?

WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO COMMENT since YOU are soooooooooooo sure you won't be vigged?

you still haven't understood the post have you?

[izakthegoomba]

UNVOTE: neil1113

I don't want to be part of this wagon. Under other circumstances I might have supported it, but GreyICE's extreme scumminess overrides it. Nothing he's said works how he wants us to think it does, his logic is flawed, his questions are leading, and his random outbursts are causing us massive problems.

VOTE: GreyICE

[glowball]

obviously test his claim, as we can possibly still get a shot in with neil.

now answer the question, what if he isn't?

HYPOTHETICALLY
So we forfeit the 2 vigs we have to test Neil, and if he is fake claiming scum then we don't get a kill because why would he kill who we told him to?
If he is the SK then we still forfeit the 2 vigs we have to test him, but we get one person hopefully Neil won't let anyone down.

WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO COMMENT since YOU are soooooooooooo sure you won't be vigged?

you still haven't understood the post have you?

You aren't understanding me. Just answer directly. YOU said that you aren't getting vigged. Your words, you are the confident one. I am not saying you don't have a right to speak up for yourself. I am asking why, YOU being soooooooooooo confident in saying that it won't happen still feels the need to voice that opinion?

[glowball]

UNVOTE: neil1113

I don't want to be part of this wagon. Under other circumstances I might have supported it, but GreyICE's extreme scumminess overrides it. Nothing he's said works how he wants us to think it does, his logic is flawed, his questions are leading, and his random outbursts are causing us massive problems.

VOTE: GreyICE

So do you believe Neil's claim, what do you propose that we do in this night phase.

[BBmolla]

I will be hammering Neil, but I want to make sure our plan is solid and that we have a decided vig target.

He's going to lose anyway, and I guess we might as well lynch a for sure anti town.

@Quil: Elaborate on probable-scum-izak, your read is useless unless you explain it.

And yeah Thomith you are in no way confirmed town.

Also, considering we already outed the SK, I think this plan is going rather well, and I laugh at you who opposed it.

[glowball]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You cannot take credit for Neil outing himself, you had NO CLUE that would happen. Also, we haven't won by your plan just yet. Wait until end game to go on bragging.

Also, you cannot hammer since izak changed his vote.

[izakthegoomba]

If you are to lynch neil, I at least want GreyICE to be the vig target. Two docs protect the vig. Another doc protects EITHER a vig of his/her choice, or a doc of his/her choice, by flipping a coin. The remaining group of docs all protect another member of their group.

Alternaively, the remaining docs could form a doc train.

[Thomith]

if he is fake claiming scum

he'd be dead.

And yeah Thomith you are in no way confirmed town.

Where did i say i was?

[glowball]

If you are to lynch neil, I at least want GreyICE to be the vig target. Two docs protect the vig. Another doc protects EITHER a vig of his/her choice, or a doc of his/her choice, by flipping a coin. The remaining group of docs all protect another member of their group.

Alternaively, the remaining docs could form a doc train.

Lynch Neil.

GreyICE is not vigbait, he's useful in his own annoying way.

Two doctor's on both vigs= 4 doctors

BBMolla
Quoaroth

given this plan scum will just be able to kill doctors unless they want to out themselves. so it needs to be done strategically.

BBMolla should be protected by: Myself and Quilford
Quaroth should be protected by: Thomith and GreyICE

Remaining "Doctors"
Izak
PiggyGal
Whispersilk
VitaminR
Maruchan

Izak protects VitaminR
VitaminR protects Whispersilk
Whispersilk protects Maruchan
Maruchan protects Izak

Vig: PiggyGal

Scum will only be able to kill Quilford, GreyICE, Thomith, or Myself because we are the only ones not included in the train because we double protect the vigs.