Mini 1219 - Bedtime Stories Mafia - Game Over!

[Thomith]

Now do you have a valid reason?

Answer this please.
So in mafia you lynch everyone who tunnels on you no matter what? Explain to me how this works?

[Thomith]

well i screwed that up, i posted the person i am asking the question to in the quote >.>

[Llamarble]

[Thomith]

lovely now answer the question, thanks.

[Neruz]

Déjà vu

[Thomith]

Déjà vu

meh, not my fault people are so stubborn nowadays, but i am to so whatever, i just shrug it off.

[Llamarble]

Useful:

Any player with a factional ability and a power granted by a role may not submit both in the same night unless they are the only remaining member of their team.

I'm going to read the game for awhile.

[Neruz]

As far as i am aware that's normal Llama.

[Llamarble]

I've pretty completely convinced myself Banshee is town.
Moving on.

[implosion]

VT claims, ordered from town to scum

Banshee/Thomith
Ellibereth
Neruz
Llamarble
weirdvoigts

The following things still need to be investigated:
-in depth read of WV
-further investigation of the interactions between voidedmafia and neruz
-possibly more in-depth looks at llamarble and Ellibereth

PR claims, from town to scum

Me (for hopefully very obvious reasons)
Evil bullet
Rainbowdash
hiphop

The following things still need to be investigated:
-possibly more consideration of game balance, specifically: is {innocent child, bodyguard, even night jk, odd night vig} versus {watcher, encryptor, X} a logical combination? Hint: yes it is.
-possibly night action planning
-future claimed actions/results/etc

[Llamarble]

Elli is ENTIRELY town.
And he's usually hard to read so that's extra awesome.
Slowly I move on down the alphabet...

[Llamarble]

I'm having trouble making up my mind between WV and Neruz.
Neruz has this I DO NOT TOLERATE STUPIDITY stuff and my experience with him is not of him being a derp.
Not being a derp is inconsistent with:
1. Not knowing 3 cults was unlikely
2. Not knowing Beck died
Which makes me think he faked that and is scum.
Also he was the fakehammer on Voided that led to Voided's wagon dissolving and then was not wagoning Voided when Voided died.
I can probably find more but yeah his blood needs to be on the menu.
VOTE: Neruz

That stuff all still bothers me.
Neruz just isn't derpy enough to believe in 3 cults or to miss a nightkill.

[Thomith]

llama i still expect you to answer the question, thanks.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Weird As i do suspect him more and llama is just acting like elli now >.>.

[Llamarble]

I really had no idea you were at L-1 until Grey's VC.
I think I'd be more likely to be aware of how big a wagon is as scum, but mreh.

I usually casemake when I have very specific and strong points to make or when I'm really convinced I want to lynch a certain player.
So I'll get to casemaking on you if I get sure I want you dead.
But basically I read your ISO and it made sense as scum's ISO.
I looked at your meta and found examples of you being able to fake the things that had me thinking you were town before (high number of posts & caring / being pushy & other stuff).

[Thomith]

Don't tell me your going to say this too, i am way too active as scum and town, so if that is one of your reasons then it is a bad one. Just because i can fake things doesn't mean every time i do it it means i am scum, as scum i try to mimic my town play, which is why i do those things nearly all the time.

[Llamarble]

The issue is that you had scummy stuff and townie stuff and the metaing made a lot of the townie stuff go away which tipped the scales scumward.

[Thomith]

so your reason on me is basically meta?

[Llamarble]

Meta is why you aren't town. Other stuff is why you're scum.
I'll casemake if I still want to lynch you once I've read everything.
Bothering me before then will result in more dancing thingies.

[Thomith]

so i am not town because of meta and i am scum because of other things.
Looks like you already decided about me, so why aren't you voting me? Worried about being on the mislynch wagon?

[Thomith]

nevermind you are voting me, but why do you need to make a case if you are sure.

[Thomith]

If you have your mind made up why do you need to post a case to make you feel sure, when it is pretty obvious your mind is made up already?

[Ellibereth]

I smell flail...

[Ellibereth]

imp, I get bansh but why you have thom still so high.
There are certain inconsistencies etc.

[Ellibereth]

TOWN
Banshee
Rainbow
Imp
Llama
Elli
bullet* (This one I'm nervous about...but still up here so yeah)

PEOPLE LEFT
hip
neruz
thom
wierd

[Rainbowdash]

I basically agree with the Elli list, although im still tempted to not have Neruz on the lynch list and plug llama in at the very end of it.

Thomith I continue to be torn on, to an extent because I do not really get who would be his partner. This recent play from him just feels like a sudden shift that makes me uncomfortable though. Now there is WV who just works with a whole lot more ponies, and has gone away recently. Also it help with my paranoia of hiphop being scum due to the roles not making as much sense. We had WV detract from the EB wagon to the extent where he started siding with EB against Beck shortly after.

Really am not sure who I am going to go with, im back to leaning WV at this point, but either of those two ponies being lynched is probably a good thing.