Mafia 137 - Neruzian Era Mafia SERIAL KILLER WIN!

[warriormode]

where is GreyICE? is he V/LA?
I want to know his scum list

[HezLucky]

Oh god. Hiraki is so annoying and scum.

He's pushing hiplop hoping he will kill a scum buddy.

unvote
vote hiraki

We'll

kill hiplop tomorrow.

We'll

who is we?

This is REALLY dumb. We, the town, will kill so and so tomorrow. You've got to be kidding me.

Also, you are voting vezok for his GREAT vote on hiraki.

Unvote, vote: sorgster

:gots his chainsaw:

excessive explanation of a vote is excessive.

why isn't sorgster lynched yet?

Why would I vote for veoz because he is voting hiraki? Hiraki is currently voting for me.

Hiraki is a good vote. Meaning that thing you quoted has NO business being there.

Seems to me like you're MAKING SHIT UP.

[warriormode]

^you're right. I don't understand what Sorg. is saying there.

[sorgster]

What am I making up hezlucky?

[zMuffinMan]

did.... sorgster just say.... "hiraki is voting for me"?

[zMuffinMan]

mastin, recap why Bowser is town.

[zMuffinMan]

btw, edmund is town.

[edmund.angles]

Why would I vote for veoz because he is voting hiraki? Hiraki is currently voting for me.

@sorgster:
1. Hiraki is dead, he's not voting anyone.
2. You don't quite seem to get that townies can win even if they are dead(scum too, but they are fewer so their lives are more important). Arguing that you don't want to vote a player because they are attacking your attacker means you are not living up to the town win-con.
If this is because you are a newbie, then please worry about catching scum in stead of saving your own hide.
If it is because you are scum, then please continue.

[edmund.angles]

MOD: Prod mastin and CSL (GI is close, too)

[vezokpiraka]

Oh god. Hiraki is so annoying and scum.

He's pushing hiplop hoping he will kill a scum buddy.

unvote
vote hiraki

We'll

kill hiplop tomorrow.

We'll

who is we?

Both bowser and hiplop are nearly the same just hiplop is worse.

Why are people voting bowser over him again?

Trying to deflect attetion from bowser to hiplop

Lynch one already. If Bowser wagon is derailed something is up.

Trying to get hiplop or bowser lynched.

unvote
vote Toon fighter

Finally I can end this day.

Lynching toonfighter trying to gain some townpoints as tf was dead anyways.

Why isn't edmund dead yet?

Are we just playing around until everyone gets prodded?
Also Neruz: I am V/LA. When I have computer time I check some games so you may see my activity going around but I always try to get all the games in a day or two.

unvote
vote hiplop

This day just needs to end.

Vezopirika seems to be in a rush to lynch people as well. He has been mostly(except his hiraki vote) joining bandwagons. Yes I know this is a deflection but he just seems scummy to me.
Note that he never asked why tf isn't dead yet but did ask that of csl and hiplop. He also voted to join the biggest bandwagon in there. The lynch was a way for townpoints I believe.

Unvote
Vote Vezokpiraka

I... don't have words.

Let's start then.

We as in we the town. You don't count for account of being scum.

Trying to deflect attention from Bowser to Hiplop? What is that supposed to mean? Do you think bowser is scum and I was trying to save a scum buddy?

Next I'm trying to get either bowser or hiplop lynched. Great. I think they were both scummy.What is bad with this again?

TF was one of my biggest scum reads along with hiplop and Bowser.

Do you want me to vote people with no votes on them? Tell me what the purpose there will be.

Now that I debunked your case please answer my questions.

[mastin2]

Last I knew, wasn't ICE V/LA?

(As for me...simple: busy Wednesday, Thursday, and most of today, combined quite frankly with extreme lethargic boredom.)

[GreyICE]

Nah, just really feeling unmotivated by this game

[sorgster]

Oh god. Hiraki is so annoying and scum.

He's pushing hiplop hoping he will kill a scum buddy.

unvote
vote hiraki

We'll

kill hiplop tomorrow.

We'll

who is we?

This is REALLY dumb. We, the town, will kill so and so tomorrow. You've got to be kidding me.

Also, you are voting vezok for his

GREAT vote on hiraki.

Unvote, vote: sorgster

:gots his chainsaw:

excessive explanation of a vote is excessive.

why isn't sorgster lynched yet?

Got confused by that and for a second I thought greyice was hiraki.

[sorgster]

Let's start then.

We as in we the town. You don't count for account of being scum.

1.Trying to deflect attention from Bowser to Hiplop? What is that supposed to mean? Do you think bowser is scum and I was trying to save a scum buddy?

2.Next I'm trying to get either bowser or hiplop lynched. Great. I think they were both scummy.What is bad with this again?

TF was one of my biggest scum reads along with hiplop and Bowser.

3.Do you want me to vote people with no votes on them? Tell me what the purpose there will be.

Now that I debunked your case please answer my questions.

@1.You could have been for all I know

@2. You seemed to be going more for hiplop than bowser

@3. I see nothing wrong with pressuring people that have little to no suspicion on them. If you don't then only the easy lynches will be gone. The scum will just stay mostly quiet, etc.

[edmund.angles]

@GI and mastin: We have the privilege of playing one of the greatest games in human history and you guys whine about boredom.
Think of the poor children in Africa who have never heard of Mafia.

What do you guys think of chkflip?

[Zdenek]

Scum points upon a reread (admittedly I got tired near the end, but I doubt that will matter much):

Bowser +S
Warriormode +S
zMuffinMan +S
Pappums Rat +S
Pappums Rat +S
zMuffinMan +S
Tomie Uzmaki +S
Uprising +S
zMuffinMan +S
zMuffinMan +S
zMuffinMan +S
Torquez +S
Mastin +S
Uprising +S
zMuffinMan +S
zMuffinMan +S
malpascp +S
Pine +S
Pine +S
zMuffinMan +S
Pappums Rat +S
Uprising +S
Pine +S
Pappums rat +S
zMuffinMan +S
GreyICE +S
chkflip +S - move on Edmund, Hiplop and Tomie when there was a three way tie for votes
zMuffinMan +S
malpascp +S
Pine +S
malpascp +S
malpascp +S
chkflip +S
edmund.angles +S
edmund.angles +S - see #677 - Bowser Wagon (if there's scum on it, it's probably him)
chkflip +S
Mastin +S
GreyICE +S
zMuffinMan +S
David Xanatos +S


Maxous ( 10 ) - GreyICE, Zdenek, warriormode, malpascp, HezLucky, CSL, Empking, sorgster, David Xanatos, GreyICE

malpascp +S
HezLucky +S
David Xanatos +S

Scummation:

2. edmund.angles 2
5. Bowser CSL 1
6. vezokpiraka
7. GreyICE 2
8. Uprising chkflip 6
9. Torqez Hezlucky 2
11. malpascp 5
12. mastin2 2
13. Pine David Xanatos 6
14. pappums rat Amrun 4
15. warriormode 1
16. Tomie Uzumaki sorgster 1
20. zMuffinMan 11

Adjusted for number of posts (very approximate because I refuse to use a calculator for all of them:

Edmund 0.05
CSL 0.03
vezok 0
GreyICE .01
chkflip 0.1
Hezlucky .1
malpascp .14
mastin 0.01
David X 0.1
Amrun .1
warriormode 0.03
sorgster .02
zMuffinMan.1

Eliminate the following from consideration today at least:

Vezok
Sorgster
WarriorMode
Amrun
CSL
Edmund
GreyICE
Hezlucky
Despite the fact that I am badly bothered by him, Mastin too

and we get:

chkflip
malpascp
David X
zMuffinMan

I want to lynch from those four today.

[Neruz]

edmund.angles (

5

) -

vezokpiraka, CSL, mastin2, chkflip, David Xanatos

sorgster ( 2 ) -

GreyICE, hezlucky

vezokpiraka ( 1 ) -

sorgster

zMuffinMan ( 1 ) -

Zdenek

chkflip ( 1 ) -

edmund.angles

pappums rat ( 1 ) -

zMuffinMan

Zdenek ( 1 ) -

warriormode

8 votes to lynch

Deadline in (expired on 2011-09-14 08:00:00)

CSL has been poked. I get the vague feeling he told me he was on V\LA.

[HezLucky]

Zdenek +T

[edmund.angles]

Unofficial people you're willing to lynch count.

edmund.angles ( 5 ) - vezokpiraka, CSL, mastin2, chkflip, David Xanatos
David Xanatos ( 3 ) - mastin2, edmund.angles, Zdenek
sorgster ( 3 ) - GreyICE, hezlucky, chkflip
zMuffinMan ( 2 ) - GreyICE, Zdenek
chkflip ( 2 ) - edmund.angles, Zdenek
Zdenek ( 2 ) - warriormode, mastin2
vezokpiraka ( 1 ) - sorgster
Amrun ( 1 ) - zMuffinMan
mastin2 ( 1 )- edmund.angles

[Zdenek]

I will post further reasoning for my reads, but for now, sorgster is practically confirmed town because of Neruz telling Empking to be nice to him.

[zMuffinMan]

OK, so, getting some food then finally putting effort into this game.

PS: Your reads are craptastic, Zdenek.

[Zdenek]

I could say more about chkflip and uprising, but it's easy to see if you read them in ISO, but I'd just like to point one thing out. From chkflip's ISO 4:

Toon is Tomie's buss to look town.

Not one word about Toon prior to posting this; in particular not a word about why he is scummy. It basically confirms chkflip as scum.

[Zdenek]

When it comes to malpascp, it's not too glaring. There's things like this and this.

You say I am scum because I have town attitudes. Non-sense much?

Malp has played long enough to know that pretending to be pro-town is scummy, especially when it is combined with not scum-hunting.

That depends on tonight's outcome. Maybe GI dies tonight, and you don't have to worry anymore. Jeez.

NK spec.

He never mentioned Toon Fighter or Lewacher. The main issue here is that he was pushing Hiplop as a lynch pretty hard, but never once gave his thoughts on Toon Fighter.

[malpascp]

You know what sacrasm is, right? [sarcasm]

Damn game isn't moving, and I seriouslly don't know what to do about that. Maybe a full reread will clear my mind.

[Neruz]

CSL has confirmed that yes, he is on V\LA.