Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2525 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:47 am

No, no we didn't, considering nopoint flipped cult from being a white lantern, there is no way shape or form the white lanterns are all confirmed non-cult to eachother.

Mr Subliminal · Post Post #2526 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:52 am

He was RECRUITED. We're RECRUITER-hunting, not RECRUIT-hunting.

Magister Ludi · Post Post #2527 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:04 am

heh, you don't seem to have a problem with people calling me a recruit here though.

And no where was that established either.

Kdub · Post Post #2528 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:08 pm

So I'm almost caught up, though I admit I started skimming partway through D2, otherwise it would take me too long to try to process everything. I'll hopefully be done tonight or tomorrow. Cliff notes like the ones Andy just posted would be helpful considering all the claims we've had.

Andrius · Post Post #2529 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:58 pm

kdub iso blackberry he posted an excel sheet a few pages ago with a claims list etc

The Book of Oa · Post Post #2530 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:31 pm

Votecount 3.2.3

Magister Ludi (3) - zMuffinMan, tanstalas, Kast
hiplop (2) - Magister Ludi, Blackberry
Mr Subliminal (1) - Andrius
ToastyToast (1) - Nikanor
Oversoul (1) - Oversoul

Not Voting (5) - hiplop, Mr Subliminal, ToastyToast, vezokpiraka, Kdub

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 7 to no lynch.

Deadline for the second lynch expires in (expired on 2011-09-15 06:15:00)

V/LAs:

In post 2485, Mr Subliminal wrote:@Mod: I would like another snarky answer please. Assume Jailkeeper A targets Player B. Roleblocker C targets Jailkeeper A. Does the jailkeep go through, or is it roleblocked?

The jailkeep would not go through.

And if it wasn't apparent by now, Magister Ludi obviously replaces Candle Jack, though mods would like to get informed about stuff like that (unless you told dana, then there's only dana to blame for not telling me).

hiplop · Post Post #2531 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:36 pm

so oversoul lives...

zMuffinMan · Post Post #2532 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:46 pm

@Andrius,

White Lanterns:

muffin
hiplop
Nikanor
Subliminal

Orange:

tanstalas
Andrius
ToastyToast

Green:

Kast
Blackberry
Kdub

Unknown:

vezok (justice league? not a WL) <- I can 100% say that vezok is not a white lantern.
Oversoul (Aquaman but not a WL)

Blue:

Ludi (now orange?)

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Why Subliminal over CJ? You know Subliminal could not have recruited last night if he is CR. Why go after him over CJ?

Andrius · Post Post #2533 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:10 pm

muffin thats not the point of the colors.
WLC are claimed non-CR.
If one is the CR we have no one to blame but them for the misinformation.

Assuming that is true, the OLC is a secondary non-CR confirmation group- not via the mod(s), but via each other. tans confirmed me, I confirmed him. Toast is confirmed via oversoul. (Barring shenanigans, but.)

It doesn't matter if I blocked him last night. That was one night and by no means confirms him as non-CR. You're *seemingly* (and correct me if I'm wrong) saying we should lynch the person who's had more nights to recruit. CJ has had two, but nopoint is dead so effectively one. Subliminal's nopoint is dead, and we blocked him last night so it would be just him. So you're saying that we should be lynching the person who has more recruits under his belt, yes? (Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what you made it sound like in the last lines.)

So hiplop's slightly more scummy because of the "so he lived".
Because when *I'm* scum any modkill on a non-buddy is YESSS. References: See Powerful Wizards Mafia. I was going to be lynched, but someone quoted something of their role. Had the townie been modkilled, I would have survived, unleashed my GODAWESOME SUPERPOWER that night, and made a different on night actions.
ANYWHO.

WE NEED TO GET ORGANIZED.

EVERYONE.
TOP ONE CR SUSPECTS NOW.
AND VOTE THEM.
IF HE ISN'T CJ OR SUBLIM THEN YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOUR MOONBEAMS ARE BETTER THAN MY LOGIC.

Andrius · Post Post #2534 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:11 pm

Oh.
>_>
So apparently Subliminal is a white lantern? --;
The hell is this.
So by that logic, if it isn't Subliminal (confirmed via WLC) then its CJLudi.

Unvote, Vote: Ludi

CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG.

ToastyToast · Post Post #2535 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:22 pm

Reason why BLC can't fake-claim WLC?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #2536 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:24 pm

andrius wrote:If one is the CR we have no one to blame but them for the misinformation.

On the contrary, I've never pretended that I know all of the other claimed WLs are confirmed non-CR. Originally I was under the assumption that all WLs are unrecruitable (on account of my own role) and not CR (on account of how unlikely it is that CR has a WL fake-claim and mafia do not have the same fake-claims and how elaborate WL roles are and the play of the people who have claimed WL). I do, however, strongly believe that both hiplop and nikanor are white lanterns and at least began this game as town. I don't have the same strong feelings towards subliminal, but he does have a WL role PM, whatever that means as far as the game goes.

Andrius wrote:So you're saying that we should be lynching the person who has more recruits under his belt, yes?

Yes. Unless you have a reason to suspect one over the other, I see no reason to go after the lesser threat.

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Put it this way. If CJ is not CR, there are some lies that need to be unearthed tomorrow.

hiplop · Post Post #2537 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:26 pm

VOTE: cj

Andrius · Post Post #2538 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:54 pm

TT wrote:Reason why BLC can't fake-claim WLC?

Because WLC IS ALL CONFIRMED UP INS REMEMBER LIKE ALL GAME SO FAR?
Yeah.

Muffin DONT EVEN.
DONT YOU EVEN TELL ME ALL WHITE LANTERNS ARE NOT CONFIRMED NON-CULT RECRUITER.
BECAUSE THIS IS A PRETTY LATE JUNCTURE TO BE DOING THAT.
WE DIDN'T FUCKING GET ALL THIS WAY FOR YOU TO PULL A TEE HEE SO IF YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY ALL CONFIRMED NON-CULT YOU FUCKING SAY SO RIGHT NOW SO HELP ME GOD THIS GAME IS LOST.

Because I'd fucking give the CR a WLC fakeclaim.

SO.
AM I CLEAR?

Muffin wrote:
Yes. Unless you have a reason to suspect one over the other, I see no reason to go after the lesser threat.

Fair enough. For the record I think its Subliminal but you DO have a point so let's get cracking muffin.
You know who I'm blocking tonight, so don't block me vezok- otherwise Subliminal can get a recruit through.

muffin wrote:Put it this way. If CJ is not CR, there are some lies that need to be unearthed tomorrow.

Ok hold on.
If we get rid of lies TODAY and CJ still is lynched WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
If he flips black then we're all YAYYYY and one step closer to the prize with no lies.

If we don't dispel lies now and he flips black well no big deal.
If he doesn't flip black and we DONT dispel lies then We go into tonight with misconceptions galore and CR might get ANOTHER recruit putting us FURTHER behind the curve.

I don't know about you, muffin, but I've lost too many games to cults to know that following lies and not being open is a dumb way to go.
We're almost fully massclaimed and the only ways we aren't IIRC is SUBLIMINAL, CR PROSPECT #2 and Nikanor who's head mason or shitz like that.

So you tell me right now if the WLC is

confirmed CR or not because IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR EVERYONE

.
Not doing so for tee-hee masonry reasons is a crock of shit.

Because your good little townies like me and tans have tried our damndest to help out but with tee-hee masons not telling us stuff and CULTZ eatin' up our legit masons then we have LE PROBLEMS.

I REFUSE TO LOSE ANOTHER CULT GAME.

Andrius · Post Post #2539 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:56 pm

In post 2530, The Book of Oa wrote:
Votecount 3.2.3

Oversoul (1) - Oversoul

THE
FUCK.
YOU UNVOTE RIGHT NOW GODDAMMIT.

Also, why in God's green earth are you voting toast nik?
Are we following the tinfoil or wut?

Blackberry · Post Post #2540 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:58 pm

Why are Andy and toasty repeating what I said a few pages back. >:-)

Andrius · Post Post #2541 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:58 pm

OK WE GOTTA PLAN NIGHT ACTIONS TOO FFFF

BB WHERE YOU AT?

Andrius · Post Post #2542 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:58 pm

ohai BB

Andrius · Post Post #2543 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:59 pm

Blackberry you read this page and you help me out because the WLC is confusing the shit out of me

Andrius · Post Post #2544 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:01 pm

Ok I might be an idiot after all but when the hell did WLC get vanillized?

zMuffinMan · Post Post #2545 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:06 pm

@Andrius,

I've been saying it since the beginning of the game, but you've refused to listen, just like you've refused to listen to me tell you that vezok is not a white lantern for the last 100 pages. It's not news and it's not my fault that you haven't been reading.

Andrius · Post Post #2546 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:08 pm

Ok.

*deep breath*

So you're saying that the WLC is NOT confirmed Cult-Recruiter.
Let me get this straight before I do anything else.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #2547 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:10 pm

As far as the information I have goes, no.

There's a lot to suggest that they aren't CR, but confirmed? No.

Andrius · Post Post #2548 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:10 pm

I'll be right back.

Andrius · Post Post #2549 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:13 pm

OLC
- tanstalas - OLC, Power Copier
- Andrius - OLC, RB
- ToastyToast - OLC,

JK

Untargettablizer

MISC NON-CULT
- inHimshalibe - 1shot PGO Vig
- Blackberry - Town Mafia-Cop
- Kast - 'Nillized Tracker, Non-Cult
- Oversoul, Tracker/Watcher
- vezokpiraka - Delayer
- zMuffinMan - Downgrader <--- CAN WE CONFIRM THIS MAN?

???
- Mr. Subliminal, ???
- Candle Jack - Doc --> Rolecop [?]
- Nikanor - WLC, ???
- hiplop - WLC, ???

NEW LIST OF CR CANDIDATES.
LEAVING NOW B/C TOAST IS OUTSIDE MY APARTMENT WITH COMPANY.