camn's temperamental - Mini 1232 - GAME OVER

[Parama]

I still think you're town, mostly because I think BB is scum.
I am 100% certain.
laziness. I HAVE tried mind you, you just missed it.
BB has flipped scum to me.

[Parama]

I am a Town Name Cop. Each night I figure out the name of someone's character.

My character name is Supervisor.

Just to clarify something, though I don't think it matters:
BB, can you repeat your role name exactly as it appears in your role PM?

@Parama: But I'm not scum.

bluh bluh

Stop scumhunting based off something that is not true and has no reason to be indicated as so.

The basis of my case was never "BB is scum, so here's why he's scum."
That would be retarded. I don't think I am retarded.

All you are saying in post #259 is that everyone who wants to lynch me or thinks I'm scum is town, and everyone who doesn't want to lynch me or thinks I'm town is scum.

no.
1&2. "I believe the claim, but BB is still scum."
3. "Chair, clarify this thing."
4. "Fishy made a good point."
5. "Chair, what real benefits are there to BB's role living another day?"
6. "Johhog, why should we wagon Zang?"
7. "Johhog, look at my response to Chair."
8. "I'm going to draw an association tell that will be more useful once BB flips scum."
9. "I should pay more attention to RedPanda."
10. "I have already covered this point twice in my post.:
11. "That is not a scumslip, Johhog, and you look like BB's scumbuddy for trying to make it into one."
12. "Pere, you are not posting enough content."
The only ones that could _possibly_ be what you say my post was are #4 and #11, and even then that's only if you oversimplify my logic to the point that it's not what I originally said anyways.
I call misrep.

Also what's with the aggression in #261?

Is aggression a scumtell?

1. the town motivation is that I am 100% sure that BBMolla is scum. there are no if's and but's about it.

This is quite literally impossible. There's no way to know 100% without a flip.

What about two roles who contradict each other?

You're also wrong, and if I do get lynched today, I will be expecting your lynch shortly after.

Subtly implying he's town and I'm not.

Your discrediting of Chair's true statements are hilarious.

What, so you're not going to say why they're "hilarious" or "bad"?

Notice: BB has posted TWICE since my catchup post in 259. Both of these have been directed EXCLUSIVELY at me. At nobody else.
Here is BB's ENTIRE list of reads:
Scum: Parama, Fishy (maybe? hasn't said a word about him since the start of the game though).
Town: ???

And you're accusing me of tunneling? How has BB been pro-town AT ALL since his claim? How was he pro-town BEFORE his claim? Questions that I don't think have answers.

[camn]

i think this is right..

Parama

- 3

( BBmolla Chair Zang )

BBmolla

- 2

( Parama RedPanda )

Chair

- 4

( Haylen PeregrineV fishythefish kanyeknowsbest )

kanyeknowsbest

- 1

( Lurconis )

Zang

- 2

( twistedspoon Johhog )

NOT VOTING:

( Sathoris )

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is

WED, SEPTEMBER 14th

, 9am MY TIME.. . Or whenever I get around to it.

[Johhog]

I'm baffled. For maybe the first time ever I got convinced by a case. Parama's case.
UNVOTE: Zang
VOTE: BBmolla
Let something happen now, I'm feeling useless. :/

[Parama]

that's like less than half of my case on BB. it's just his most recent two posts.

[Johhog]

I'm aware of that. I just got a vision or something.

[Chair]

What about two roles who contradict each other?

Assuming that you mean your own role and BBmolla's: to what extent to they contradict each other? Is it even

remotely

possible for your role and BB's role to both exist as town-aligned roles?

[Parama]

It wouldn't be an understatement to say that if we're both town... all hell will break loose in MD post-game, let's say.

[RedPanda]

Kanye I do believe your town. i would ask you to please read all the posts of BB and fishy from the start and tell me what you think about it.
@lurconis thanks for taking a look at it. i normally would have disregarded it but their posts seem too forced to me.

[Chair]

Does your role contradict the existence of a name cop at all, or just the existence of a town name cop?

[RedPanda]

@chair Parama is definitely town. Either you dont see it or your scum.

[BBmolla]

It wouldn't be an understatement to say that if we're both town... all hell will break loose in MD post-game, let's say.

Well this is interesting then. If you are town then this hell is incoming.

Yes, my role is Town Name Cop exactly as it is in the PM.

UNVOTE:

[Parama]

Do you just want me to claim? 'cause it looks like you do.
I am a Town FLAVOR Cop. BB claimed Town NAME Cop. The role does exactly what BB claims his does, so it's basically the same role. I can only assume the discrepancy is caused by differing alignments, because I don't see a reason for there to exist not only two of the same town-sided role, but two of the same town-sided role that also have different role names. I actually didn't pick up on the role name difference at first though.
So I think BB is a MAFIA NAME COP.

[Parama]

Oh and yeah, this is why I am not ever changing my vote until we have a dead BBMolla.

[BBmolla]

What the hell.

I'm town, honestly. Lynching me will only make you look like scum Parama.

Your role finds out the name of other player's characters each night? Does it provide anything else?

[Parama]

Just the name.

[Zang]

What question? You really expect me to go digging for it?

It was in my last post-

FoS: Parama

Why is BB scum?

I will lynch BB, and when he flips scum, I will use association tells to find his buddies. I've already got some of them association tells if you haven't noticed.

You can not lynch BB by yourself and as long as he is alive, you are still useless to the town.

Get this: It is possible

No it isn't, there is no possinle way to know 100% that he is scum unless you are also scum.

What am I ignoring?

Chairs post #325

The basis of my case was never "BB is scum, so here's why he's scum."

Then what is the basis of your case?

What about two roles who contradict each other?

That still doesn't make it 100%. There are several different reasons that two roles that contradict each other could be in a game depending on how much they contradict eachother.

Well this is interesting then. If you are town then this hell is incoming.

Yes, my role is Town Name Cop exactly as it is in the PM.

UNVOTE:

Why did you unvote?

Also, can you please summarize your role again?

I am a Town FLAVOR Cop. BB claimed Town NAME Cop. The role does exactly what BB claims his does, so it's basically the same role. I can only assume the discrepancy is caused by differing alignments, because I don't see a reason for there to exist not only two of the same town-sided role, but two of the same town-sided role that also have different role names. I actually didn't pick up on the role name difference at first though.
So I think BB is a MAFIA NAME COP

[/quote]

Why couldn't there be a mafia flavor cop?

[Parama]

I am not a Mafia Flavor Cop. There could be a mafia flavor cop, but it'd be the Mafia Name Cop that BBmolla is.

[Johhog]

I can't see scum gambitting here Zang. If BBmolla flips town Parama is basically fucked.

[BBmolla]

I can't see scum gambitting here Zang. If BBmolla flips town Parama is basically fucked.

My thoughts exactly. I can't see scum trying to pull this, hence the unvote.

[RedPanda]

I can't see scum gambitting here Zang. If BBmolla flips town Parama is basically fucked.

My thoughts exactly. I can't see scum trying to pull this, hence the unvote.

You do realize how this looks for you don't you?

[BBmolla]

I'm well aware.

Somehow I feel like this was intended to happen.

[Twistedspoon]

very brief/premature catchup

panda looks more town in #270 - #290. I might have been wrong about him
kanye & Fishy are town
chair I have trouble reading, but I always do with implosion.
peg seems logical enough but it might be organised IIoA I'm mistaking for townieness in this case. Might need more from him
Parama has just been suicidal if he's scum. One of BB and parama

should

be scum (this is camn mod though. I wouldn't put setup wifom past her tbh) and a town flip from one should confirm the other as mafiosi. The converse also appiled (in other words a scum flip from one makes the other town)
so now we know 2 players, one of which is certainly scum. It's as if we've lynched 0.5 a mafiosi already I guess. I'm more willing to let parama go first although I don't think it matters tbh. We lynch scum either way and I still find the PR itself weak and unreliable. BB just feels more genuine to me than parama I guess. However parma does make some good analysis points and is an asset to town assuming he isn't scum. I could be persuaded either way as to who to lynch first I guess.

[Johhog]

Lynch BBmolla

please

.

Enough?

[Twistedspoon]

@BB: were we to lynch you and then parama afterwards would you be satisfied as there is near-certainly a mafiosi in one of you due to 2 cops being bizzare (obviously parama first would be more preferable though for you, but I'm not asking about that order)

in other words would you offer yourself as a sacrifice to confirm parma as scum for tommorow (assuming you are town)